Saga FLX 120kmh at around 2.8k.

2.5k is 100kmh only.

Campro no 2.2l, and no plans for 2.2l. Even the rumoured upcoming Y-family engine will have up to 1.8l only.

Because Campro too laggy, cannot chase robbers

Do they even have Campro cars in their inventory? Are their Wajas Campro?

Maybe secretly transplanted MIVEC Can troll robbers

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 22 2012, 10:02 AM

U go cucuk them see....then can confirm

BACK TO TOPIC!!

Those lamps...dunno how many thousand bucks apiece...

That being said, there are cheap way to do things too. Like the tail lamp in the Tuah concept, sure Proton can do it cheaply. Question is how long is it gonna last, how reliable it is, and how soon will it fall off and kill the motorcyclist behind your car. As it is, Proton still can't make sure the bootlids on their cars can close properly.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 22 2012, 12:59 PM

You'll care when you need to replace them because they were poorly made.

Also, changing one part also affects other parts, ie: in order to make a lamp on the bootlid, you will have to design the bootlid with mounting points for the lamp, as well as places to route the wiring which may interfere with other parts on the bootlid, or even on the chassis itself, and then you have to worry about water leaking into the boot or the lamp because of gaps etc.etc. Of course, this is just a hypothetical example of how one minor thing can cause alot of headache.

So in the end it's not only about manufacturing one part, but a design choices that could cause the overall production cost to increase because of a fancy lamp.

But I'm not an engineer, so what do I know?

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Added on February 22, 2012, 1:33 pmI am having some brake and door rubber problems with my brand new Saga, and I'm seeing lot's of niggling QC problem with Proton's current line of products eg. rattling interiors, bootlids that are hard to close etc. etc. which you will no doubt see when you visit their SCs.

So I am talking about Proton, not China.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 22 2012, 01:34 PM

That's why I say, it's a Proton car, hard to expect both form and function that satisfies all of us. If they gonna choose between form and function/reliability, I'd rather they choose the latter. Italdesign can come up with the most outrageous design money can buy, but Proton perhaps is not capable of engineering a practical and reliable car out of those design within reasonable cost.

EDIT: I actually thought the rear lamps as it is to be OK

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 22 2012, 01:56 PM

No worries Just sharing.

I agree that QC problem stems from the assembly line, but don't forget those lousy vendors.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 22 2012, 02:39 PM

Cronyism la. That's why la I say different from China. Malaysian vendors pay them more money also same quality wan.

Hiding a Myvi in a Proton showroom!!!

Are we quite done with the comparison between the Tuah concept car and the production car P3-21A ??

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 23 2012, 03:54 PM

It is what it is, there really is no point now screaming "feck Proton, this is not Tuah!!"....well duh!

We should be discussing the merits of this vehicle as a product for the consumer, instead of endlessly bashing it because it does not look like the concept car.

This car was not designed by Proton designers, at least most of it was not.

If you had even bothered to look at the specs and features on this car, you will probably slap yourself silly for calling it a 40k car.

Changing the manufacturer badge is the second most pathetic mods I can find, the first one being modding your car to look like another make and model.

I have to agree, it does look pretty bland, like a half-hearted attempt to do something different.

But in any case, I'm more interested in it's specs and features. bodykits (or facelift) can come later yo!

If that's true that is impressive for a 75k car.

C'mon man, if you really test driven it pls let us know more than how the brakes perform.


I had a dream last nite, it was named Proton Prospekta. Serious ....

If they sell with the tuah grille and headlamp, then what are those aftermarket bodykit suppliers gonna sell?

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 27 2012, 02:41 PM

They will still need to wait for the car to come out to get the measurements also.


Good one