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post Feb 15 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Tienhoven @ Feb 15 2012, 01:02 AM)
Nice stats Carrick, but stats are only stats. The influence in the game is another story. You can end up at the back doing 200 passes with the back line and have 100% stats. Almost everytime when Carrick partners Scholes, man of the match honors goes to the later. Problem is he doesn't do anything spectacular for me. At the same time he doesn't do much wrong with it as well, so probably that's why he doesn't get the heat often.

He does have his moments. Like the Roma demolition. I just think his price tag is not justified. At all. He is decent and is playing well atm. Can't wait for the Ajax game.
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tbh I din want to use these as evidence, as what people says youtube can make everyone looks like Messi. But what the hell. My point is that he can make spectacular pass or superb run, just that he's not supposed to do so. You can't have the two Fabregas on one side, or two Ronaldos on one side, that's why Scholes is usually partnered by Carrick, with the latter cover the former when he loses possesion or sitting deeper than other midfield player he's paired with. In other word, if Alex Song is now starting to venture forward, Arsenal are proned to get counter attack more than usual. That is why Carrick is placed just in front of our CBs, to protect the back-line more.
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overpriced? he's been with us for nearly 6 years now. If his 18m price tag is true, then that is 3m a year. How is that overpriced?

after 6 years with us, and still wanna bring in price issue? zzzz doh.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:55 PM

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oh nick tweeted tat giggs not going to holland liao...so tats a bonus to pogba cleverley
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As of now, a 16mil carrick is far more cheaper than a 35 mil striker who can't score
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:57 PM

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09:41 Here's the confirmed 20-man travelling squad: De Gea, Amos, Evans, Rafael, Fabio, Jones, Ferdinand, Valencia, Nani, Carrick, Young, Park, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Scholes, Cleverley, Pogba, Smalling and Fryers.


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fabio to start at lb yay~


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post Feb 15 2012, 06:06 PM

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Ohh Evra rested after last weekend drama...
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post Feb 15 2012, 06:08 PM

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09:41 Here's the confirmed 20-man travelling squad: De Gea, Amos, Evans, Rafael, Fabio, Jones, Ferdinand, Valencia, Nani, Carrick, Young, Park, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Scholes, Cleverley, Pogba, Smalling and Fryers.


Amos

Rafael - Ferdinand - Evans - Fabio

Valencia - Jones - Scholes - Young

Rooney - Hernandez


Whoaa- no Berba? T_T
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post Feb 15 2012, 06:10 PM

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http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/Ne...ged-150212.aspx

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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Feb 15 2012, 06:08 PM)
Amos

Rafael - Ferdinand - Evans - Fabio

Valencia - Jones - Scholes - Young

Rooney - Hernandez


Whoaa- no Berba? T_T
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Smalling - Ferdinand - Evans - Fabio

Park- Carrick-Cleverley - Young

Rooney - Hernandez


I like this better
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post Feb 15 2012, 06:17 PM

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this match ajax vs Manutd not showing on Astro right?
btw what time will it be showing?
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post Feb 15 2012, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 15 2012, 12:08 PM)
He just started playing, is a newbie tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 06:20 PM

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woi shaddap you.
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post Feb 15 2012, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Feb 15 2012, 06:06 PM)
Ohh Evra rested after last weekend drama...
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nope, he's punished by internal disciplinary board tongue.gif

after all, time for evra to finally get some rest, his stamina is just awesome.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Feb 15 2012, 11:47 AM)
Still flashy stuff, ambitious passes play important role. stats isnt all there is to judge also. it doest really tell the whole story

i like carrick coz he is such a team player,dont lose ball and work hard on the pitch. always make room for others to pass him.but he did shown some slump the past 2 season. he can do better as shown first 3 season. glad he hv step up finding back his form this season. But he never was a shit. people who call carrick a shit really dont understand how football being played
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Well that's my point. Some people only look at the flashy stuff. They don't look at the bread and butter.

QUOTE(SuperVelocity @ Feb 15 2012, 01:40 PM)
cant agree more than that, personally I love carrick, well his passing is not as great as scholes, but his interception is inch perfect, everytime when he is on the field, his 1st step of interception is superb crucial for tackling, he is definately one of the box to box midfield around in the league, the only player I can compare with him will be Scott Parker or the Real Madrid Alonso
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Definitely, he's behind Scholes, but besides that, he is the best passer in the team. The pass completion stats show that.

QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 15 2012, 05:28 PM)
I thought football is a team game? We as a team failed in those games, against Barca especially in thw two finals where we got outclassed. And against Barca, with how they pressed us, even Scholes would give the ball away. As for the Bayern game the fact that we were a man down for the 2nd half were the reason we went out.

As for his passing range, it depends on the role he plays. But if you look at Scholes' stats, it would be the same sideways passes that would dominate the chart. And I read somewhere a while back, he attempted more forward passes than any other players aside from the defenders at the club.

You expect him to be spectacular? Why is that? His role in the team is to shield the defence and keep the ball moving and he does it well than most players. He's been first choice ever since he got here, although he struggled for a bit before this season losing his place to Fletcher. But he was struggling with his ankle injury if I'm not mistaken.

People have been underrating our midfield a lot over the years. But with the supposedly weak midfield, we won the league 4 times in five years and went to the CL finals 3 times, winning it once. Should have been 4 finals really if the ref had any balls to give Bommel a couple more cards in that game..and against Inter, I would fancy our chances.

He's been consistently been very good in most games. He had a dip in form, which happens to even Scholes and Giggs when they're nearing 30, but this season ever since he got back in the side, he has stepped up another gear. He's very important to our defence too being the only one currently capable of shielding them.
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To help emphasise your point, Barca topped the sideways/backwards passing list in the CL last season. Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta all made the top 5, IINM. Carrick, did not make the top 3 or top 5 or something like that.

And I believe part of the reasons Carrick did not play at the start of the season was because he was injured. And the Cleverley and Anderson combo was simply amazing. Although, defensively, they still had a lot of work to do.

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Feb 15 2012, 05:41 PM)
Simple passes are often overlook, I'd say. Cleverly has been doing what Carrick has done all the years with just an another advancement. A mobile type of Carrick.

Despite of getting worried of Carrick, we should be worry of Anderson. I'm not trying to question his ability but his consistencies that gets me. He's at what age now? Yet, he just can't be consistent with his gameplay.

And I agree with Wan, our midfield isn't as poor as it rumored to be. Just because we don't have any BIG names, we are NOT poor.
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I've always felt that Cleverley is like short passing on hyperspeed. He loves all those little one - twos at break neck speed and that seems to bring the best out of Anderson.
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post Feb 15 2012, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Tienhoven @ Feb 15 2012, 10:14 AM)
I just feel he is overpriced and you don't need me to point out why he is left out of the squad nowdays and not really in the England frame.
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That's England's loss then, they've wasted years of Carrick just like they wasted Scholesy. Thinking about this as funny as sacrificing scholes playing wide left last time he was with England.
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Feb 15 2012, 08:57 PM)

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Feb 15 2012, 07:09 PM)
And I believe part of the reasons Carrick did not play at the start of the season was because he was injured. And the Cleverley and Anderson combo was simply amazing. Although, defensively, they still had a lot of work to do.
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I'd say they need another player to sit in holding midfielder to get the best out of them, might be carrick, or more destroyer kind of player, phil jones
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QUOTE(alowie @ Feb 15 2012, 07:03 PM)
nope, he's punished by internal disciplinary board tongue.gif

after all, time for evra to finally get some rest, his stamina is just awesome.
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no la.. evra still celebrating last weekend win. jumping here and there no stamina left biggrin.gif

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