ConfusedK, are you from the peninsula states or east Malaysia? I noted your " chaotic environment" comment.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 12 2012, 03:43 PM

Hello zstan again.

I can understand your point regarding accomodations. About company and the environment, I completely agree with you. I'm sure people have made mistakes with their education in both universities. Thank you for letting me know about how the Monash campus is bigger than the IMU campus especially regarding the libraries as I do spend a significant amount of time in them. Anymore pros and cons about either university?

ConfusedK

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Added on February 12, 2012, 3:50 pmHello podrunner again.

I am from Peninsula Malaysia but I still do enjoy a less hustle bustle and calmer environment.

ConfusedK

This post has been edited by ConfusedK: Feb 12 2012, 03:50 PM

Check the census date for Monash Sunway. Monash Clayton's census date is 31 March 2012. Essentially it means that if you withdraw from the Uni before census date, you will be able to recoup most of your fees. Am not sure if Monash Sunway has the same condition.

If opting for Monash residence, ask for those with locals sharing as foreign students tend to be more playful and noisy. There are more than enough places for conducive studying.

Hello podrunner again.

I looked at my Monash offer letter about the refunding policy. It stated that if I withdraw from the course in less than 4 weeks of teaching, the university is only obligated to refund 50% of 1 semester's tuition which is still a significant amount of money to waste. Hence, that option is still not viable for me. Thank you for the suggestion though.

ConfusedK

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Added on February 12, 2012, 4:05 pmHello cckkpr again.

I have be advised to do as such by other people too if I chose to enroll in the Sunway Monash University program. Thank you for suggesting it.

ConfusedK

This post has been edited by ConfusedK: Feb 12 2012, 04:05 PM

This arises out from the diferrence between the two governments/consumer ministries.

Aussie government is pro business, conditons being not at the expense of citizens. But if being forced into a corner like mining tax

issue or something, they had taken decisions to be pro citizens , not to the satisfaction of Business.

In Malaysia, generally business = cronies ......... so our consumer acts of parliament is something citizen cannot depend on!

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 12 2012, 04:20 PM

Whatever the terms in the offer letter, it is still legally binding.

I can tell you more cons of IMU than pros since i rejected them to join Monash. Anyway, try to find some time to visit both campuses by yourself to get a better view.

here are some pictures of Monash if you are interested:

Hello zstan again.

What other cons of IMU did you think of when you were placed in the same position to make a decision between the two university? The images of the Monash campus looks great. Thank you for them. I don't have the time to visit both campuses as the deadline for me to make a decision is approaching very soon.

ConfusedK

You mean pro consumer........

As far as international students are concerned, aus unis are guided by the Education Services for Overseas Students (ESOS) Act, 2000.

Well firstly it's the brand name. Although the IMU program is slightly cheaper by Monash's BPharm program by 20-25k but i am going to get a degree which is only known in Malaysia. With Monash my degree is known almost worldwide in the pharmaceutical industry. Note: known =/= recognised by the countries' professional body

Also the student intake for Monash is lesser, which looks pretty much conducive to me compared to a really huge group in IMU. Monash's campus is also much larger than IMU which looks almost claustrophobic to me (though it's still better than HELP).

I also get more networking opportunities in Monash compared to IMU outside my faculty..

And lastly, i will an opportunity to go to Melbourne for one semester paying malaysian fees if i qualify...

for the pharmacy programme, it is a no brainer that monash sunway will be better than imu local or 2 1/2+1 programmes.....

at least the monash degree is recognised in oz, and there is a small possibility of getting pupilship in oz.....you are stucked in msia with the other 2 programmes....

No.... no....

I wouldn't say Aussie government is pro consumer ........ it is still basically pro business I believe.

In relation to refund policies of university tuition fees , it is rather generous/favourable (from Malaysian's perpective) across the

board in Aussie. That is probably a direct results of government policies in the form of laws covering business and/or tertiary

educational institions over there.

The scenaro in Malaysia in this typical context of fees refund, has made life difficult for ConfusedK's parents..... who are citizens

of Malaysia ...... which probably contributes a fair amount of personal income tax to the national coffer.

A Malaysian citizen who is a foreigner in Aussie ,not paying any personal income tax to Aussie government , has his rights better

protected in Aussie in the context of tuition fees refund in relaton to the pathetic situations here in Malaysia.

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Added on February 12, 2012, 7:39 pmThanks.

I notice that Aussie uni fees are all inclusive .... unlike local ipta/ipts where we have hidden fees such as lab fees, library fees, xxx

fees, yyy fees, zzz fees etc that sound 'logical' to the authourities who are 'supposed' to protect us.

Correct me if I am wrong.


This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 12 2012, 07:39 PM

please look up the definitions of what these terms mean, before confusing everybody here.....

My comments in this particular thread no 54 , is in the 'narrowest' CONTEXT of University Tuition Fees Refund :

1 )as potentially practised by Monash Malaysia against TS's parents; and

2 )as practised by Monash Clayton as per inputs from Podrunner,

ONLY.

It is not in relation to all other comments in this particular thread , which are not (1) and (2) above.

My apology if anybody is being confused ..........

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 12 2012, 08:29 PM

Hello everyone.

Thank you for all of your opinions throughout this forum. I really do appreciate all of your inputs and did consider them in my decision making process. At the end of the day, which was actually after 2 days, Mum and I went with our gut feeling and picked one of the two universities. I do want to keep my decision a private matter. Thank you again for all your help.

ConfusedK

Hope you make the best out of it. Cheers!

Hello cckkpr.

Thanks again! =)

Glad to know that after moving from a state of 'confused' mind to a state of hopefully 'less confused' mind in the past one week or

so, you have come to finally make a decision .........

There is no right or wrong decision in life, it is always about making the 'best' dicision at a moment of time with limited known

info/data and known available resources.

You still have a long journey in Life. Wish you all the best.