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post Feb 18 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 12:51 AM)
hehe, this is the art of owning PE, hor ?

*lately i can make myself fap once a day only liao, good progress right?
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Yeah.. haha.. Save the sperms for college.. U will be needing a lot of it there.. Trust me..

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:56 AM)
i thought someone says he's fat?  blink.gif


Added on February 18, 2012, 12:57 am

LOL pour RON 12 (formulated in 2012)
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The fat one is his younger brother..
LOL Then C-13 race gas is special formula still in development..

QUOTE(dares @ Feb 18 2012, 01:06 AM)
You mean that night when you almost had foursome but ended up humping your number plate.
Most likely your brother will become father sooner than you.
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HAHAHA ROFLMAO!!


Btw Cavino minyak man..
This forum going to give u tons of info u going to drool on.. Btw Bob is an independant test guy..
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...Board=11&page=1
Then go here for explanation on the results from the lab.. http://www.mrtlaboratories.com/Tests.htm

Hehe.. Tell me if u like it.. icon_rolleyes.gif
Now i can understand why my engine oil turning black so fast.. whistling.gif
My engine oil is ASL 5W-30.. Not the AZO 0W-30..

Btw U were vouching for Idemitsu right?
Under the UOA section, the Idemitsu oil performs better than most Castrol Fully Synthetic with either Group III and Group IV oils.

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post Feb 18 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 09:24 AM)
no, whether side parking or reverse parking also, i cannot 1 time gao dim de, zzzz
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Dont worry u will get used to it.. Our car turns like a lorry..

QUOTE(Josh_M @ Feb 18 2012, 11:59 AM)
seriously i was trying to read all the 101 pages before saying hello... but then i gave up half way through..
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lol..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 01:50 PM)
who going EA lata at 3 o, i going now o, to install SP and AF
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I will be there at around 3pm..
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post Feb 18 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 02:12 PM)
wei, no jalan jalil perkasa 15 in my GPS, only jalan jalil perkasa 4 and 5  shocking.gif  lol?
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Oh u are dead.. haha.. Erm u follow the directions I gave u last time and see lah..
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post Feb 18 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Feb 18 2012, 02:23 PM)
wah syok ar after service!!!
Reflash my ECU + new engine lube now. Feels very light now.
The funny part is when the tech remove the AF for cleaning, he got stun for 2 seconds looking at the Works filter. Dont know what's wrong with him, maybe never see before?
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LOL.. He shocked cos tiba tiba the filter become blue ady.. lol..

QUOTE(abong8 @ Feb 18 2012, 02:38 PM)
For the sake of science.. I'm willing to buy your used Hotbits 4-2-1 for RM250 so that u can assist Drex for his test on FGK 4-1..
Or else, I add RM50 more to drex, so he can test it with my stock HL..

PS : my mom won't cut my schlong if she noticed the tin kosong sound..
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LOL Nvm lah.. I intend to keep it till i get enough moolah to turbocharge my car..
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post Feb 18 2012, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Feb 18 2012, 02:47 PM)
his actions were priceless! When wanna blow air that time, he look at the filter again, flip front and back, then only blow air. Must be wondering what the heck is this blue filter! lol.....
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lol.. Mine drex just now help me clean my filter by using gravity's help and some hard thrashing.. haha.

QUOTE(haur @ Feb 18 2012, 03:00 PM)
I do not know the exact term but since the tech said "saya akan reflash ECU kereta you", so I ma put reflash lo.
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Yeah those bigger SC that have the PADT system can reflash the ECU.. Although they reflash the original mapping for u.. A lot of ppl in this forum misunderstood that reflashing the ECU means to upgrade the base map to a much more optimised and improved map..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:09 PM)
no la, lata install lcp liao i scare lose top speed, drive until 130 then cannot climb liao
lol, another poison for me doh.gif near only wo, semenyih, lol
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Nope.. Install LCP will never lose top speed.. No such things.

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:13 PM)
ok la, i just come back from drex shop, i learn alot lo, now only i know zeng looks like a pedo bear in real life, seriously, he looks more pedo then me  shakehead.gif

and, after install filter + sp, when im on my way home, from bukit jalil to saujana impian, i realise my FC raise so much leh  8.6 when i reach EA, reach home check, 8.8 liao, izit normal, or drex forget to unscrew 1 screw and the oil pancut from my car
, or i shall dry for 1 more moment only see, but hor, then i on air cond ho, got some oil smell


Added on February 18, 2012, 5:15 pm

think think a while first, cause now wallet thinner by half liao  sweat.gif
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haha.. My just out of bed look.. smile.gif.. So u got any young girls to intro to me?
Oh no worries. .for the first few 100km the FC will suddenly shoot high due to the sudden increase in airflow + old A/F ratio being used.. Ur ECU will slowly adjust adjust till it reach the optimum A/F ratio.. That time u will have maximised power and FC..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:24 PM)
jew know why? because i dunno every single word drex is talking, im just, oh yea, correct, right, ok, but i dun understand everything
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LOL.. No worries what u dunno just now can ask me.. I understand what he was telling.. Although i have to say its quite technical too.. Top dead centre, ignition timing, nut torque etc etc.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:29 PM)
seriously too technical  sweat.gif  do jew know when drex remove the cover, that moment only i know where is my SP located at ,cuse when i go youtube video, most of their car that showed inside the video open the front cover can see SP liao .
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The cover to prevent too much dust from accumulating on top of the COP (coil over plug).. Like just now drex cleaned with the blower.. Thats cos too much dust there.. A clean engine is always nicer looking..
And the thing that drex did to my spark plug was to check the gap of the ground with the electrode and to regap the electrode.. Cos as spark plugs gets older the electrode wears out and widens the gap, therefore increasing the gapping voltage needed for the plugs.. In high speed that is what causes misfire too.. So he regapped my SP back to original specs, which is 0.8mm to restore back to brand new performance..
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post Feb 18 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 05:51 PM)
so my SP need to take out every day and knock knock knock a rclxub.gif
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doh.gif Never do that if u are not experienced.. U need the right tools and skills to do that.. If u salah knock knock then later the electrode too near then can short circuit the COP also.. That knocking is needed when u have almost reach 30-50% of the SP lifespan.. It is done to maintain the performance of the SP.. When the gap gets bigger, the ECU compensates by increasing the voltage supplied to the coil.. so in effect it negates the differences in performance.. But for me since im sensitive to performance changes and since drex is free for a while so can curi his skills and time to help me do it.. I would never do it myself cos i dont have the gap gauge that he was using just now.

And after that the special tool he was using is a adjustable torque wrench.. It can adjust to the desired power u want and screw it in.. If u screw it too tight then it will click and not screw in further.. Like my plugs just now it was torqued in too tight. The ideal torque for SP shd be around 12-13lb/ft.. But mine due to slight thread deformation it was torqued till 15lb/ft to maintain the tightness of the seal.
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post Feb 18 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 06:05 PM)
he said the proton SC did 25+ for your SP shocking.gif almost double liao sweat.gif
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Yeah noob fella. Till my thread also slightly damaged ady.. If my thread totally damage then I have to change new engine head..
Thats y i prefer going to a reliable and good workshop with reputation on quality instead of saving a few bucks on a cheaper installation at some normal workshops.. Although COSE is not exactly bawah pokok, but those staffs in there are mostly junior trainees..

My spark plugs after an estimated 28k mileage.. Still clean and new with no signs of running too lean or rich.
I forgot when i changed my plugs.. Shd be around 8k mileage at that time.
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My OEM NGK plugs on the left at around 8k km and Brand New denso IT20 at that time .
Can see that my OEM plugs was either misfiring or the engine ECU was running the engine too rich by the amount of carbon deposits on the plugs thread.
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post Feb 18 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 06:20 PM)
this, can be used for 100k km right?
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Got new pics attached above.. smile.gif.. Keep it to 80k km lah. I think by the time u reach 80k km ur plugs would have reached OEM spark plug power only.
U can compare and see y denso is better than OEM NGK..
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post Feb 18 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 06:45 PM)
oh, then filter, how long only need change, i think i will take out and smash on the floor every 3k km la, but change leh? 100k km?
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Filter can last a whole lifetime.. like just now u saw the holes in my air filter, thats just slightly bigger pores.. Nothing to worry about.. As long as u clean ur filter regularly lah.. Yeah doing it every 3-5k km is good.. No need to wash, after all it takes barely 5mins and a few smashes to clean up all the dirt and dust..
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post Feb 18 2012, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Feb 18 2012, 07:12 PM)
i wash my drop in air filter b4... use clean water and flow it straight... damn a lot of dust!
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Yeah.. That means the filter is working.. hehe.. But just rmb dont wash with soap..

Jackyap.. poison poison.. hehe..
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post Feb 18 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 18 2012, 09:15 PM)
@zeng: installed LCP? poisoning picture... tongue.gif after upload picture...poison level increased biggrin.gif

@shelby: can get the castrol magnatec from u around end of feb/starting of march?
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LOL.. Yaya.. Ur set is waiting for u in the shop.. hehe..

QUOTE(abong8 @ Feb 18 2012, 09:17 PM)
Where u get that normal pulley 630gms? Don't simply quote figures..
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He meant by Mythelogy.. Its 630grams.. Works is almost 600grams.. I will get it measured later.. Ori is 1.9kg..

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Feb 18 2012, 09:20 PM)
no one given any report after istall lcp..... sad.gif
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Cos only got 3 ppl install LCP so far.. Raimy_m9 and pupumaru and unknownhammie..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 18 2012, 09:32 PM)
Oops, you've found one of my key info source where I curi most of the idea from. He's not always right but have most practical and ready to understand info for layman like me.

Uoa section got mentioned idemitsu better than castrol meh! Good to know I did not vouch for the wrong lube.

At 4.6k mileage and 6.5 months interval, my city idemitsu fs is quite black. Watery tho, so still acceptable. Full city driving with lots of stops. Engine still quiet, vibration still at minimum, performance has not degrade yet and finally means most likely the almost rm50 cheaper fs I've gotten from ichih is original.
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LOL.. Yeah i read one of the lab test.. The fella was using Castrol Edge all the while after 190k km he change to Idemitsu FS.. And the Idemitsu gave consistent degration after that..
I think Im sticking with my AMSoil then.. Since its cheap and its very good according to all the UOA sections.. Got molybdenum somemore..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 09:32 PM)
science stream, UPSR 7A, PMR 7A 1B, SPM ?A ?B ?C ?D(havent come out) but my book havent study those kind of thing before la


Added on February 18, 2012, 9:34 pm

macam lecturing, no show example, where is located at where, when he finish speak last sentence i like after beer, mabuk mabuk nak pengsan


Added on February 18, 2012, 9:35 pmbut i got remember something, zeng said, screw all the screw inside your engine tight tight can prevent vibration and add 3 HP(notsure if he is trolling)
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haha.. That was trolling lah.. lol..
U shd have asked us mah.. haha.. I saw after u nong nong when he was telling bout the COP thats y i go show u the Wira plug cable to explain.. lol..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 09:47 PM)
cry.gif me too young, cannot convince people do for me sad.gif


Added on February 18, 2012, 9:48 pm

how u know what they speaked, u on the spot meh shocking.gif
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I got do comparison and explanation b4 in the thread..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 09:57 PM)
1st page no info regarding that la
and pedo bear not me la, is zeng
i need about 2 month to get the moneh wo


Added on February 18, 2012, 9:58 pm

so ur the other hansem chinese besides pupumaru and me, or the other hansem chindian besides zeng?
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I no pedobear leh.. I dont go after young kids.. I go after pretty chicks and MILF.. Yummy..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 18 2012, 10:03 PM)
Ya, but buy from others then go ea install, ok kah.
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haha.. Can PM him and ask.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 18 2012, 10:16 PM)
Do not look down on bear even if its a pedo. They might be dumb in every thing but can be a genius in specific subject that truly interest them.
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Well as the saying goes:

If u were to judge a fish by how well it can climb a tree, its going to think that its forever stupid. - Zeng

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Feb 18 2012, 10:20 PM)
Tomorrow semua Cheong Ka Tiao-ers major mod at EA... Monster dah
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LOL today half of the group went to install ady loh.. The rest next mth will go install..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:22 PM)
so the one in the workshop today if got chance you will go up her anot? brows.gif  brows.gif
erm, the ori pulley is 1.9kg, and LCP is 600+ grams, the difference is just 1.3kg wo, it makes big difference meh?
1 less people sit on the car also lighter by 60kg liao o...
this , i agree  drool.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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LOL its directly parasite to the power coming from ur car engine.. When u reduce 1.3kg from a pulley that is being driven by a crank that weights around 5kg, its going to be massive performance gain.. If u reduce 13kg from ur car by removing ur spare tire and jacks etc, u are not going to get that much improvement compared to the reduction in weight for the crank pulley.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 18 2012, 10:23 PM)
Zen,

That's why your amsoil is black, molydenum act something similar to what magnatec is doing and is black if I'm not wrong.

Sam,

I'll pm drex latter to check with him. Now on phone. Just make sure nothing wrong with the lcp, coz if anything goes wrong later don't know who to go to to fix coz stuff not buy from him. That's why normally I prefer to buy and overall stuff from same source. 1 person kautim all.
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Yeah.. Thats y i understand y my oil turns black fast.. Breaking down molybdenum causes the oil to turn black as it sacrifices itself to maintain lubrication of the piston under hard stress..
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post Feb 18 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Feb 18 2012, 10:25 PM)
Use the sticker as club sticker la... Lol..
brows.gif so how? Good for head start... And over taking...

But sien, just now almost butt sek ppl... The cc tyre are useless already... Need bigger rims... Or those slow moving driver that causes a total stop traffic at a not jammed highway should be shot straight at their forehead vmad.gif
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hehe.. The CC5 tires really useless.. My friend change the tires like 4k km ago.. for his non PE.. THose corners i can take at 60-70with my car, i took it at 60 with his car and it skidded.. A further test just now at the taylors lakeside the road there, whack the corner at 55kmh and it started to drift drift a bit at the back.. takut sia.. the grip is not there.. alothough the tire is much quieter than my NS500.

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:28 PM)
nope, but i saw a chick there, she know zeng talking and pointing at her nia sweat.gif she looking at zeng point point point ,lol
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erm i got point at her meh?

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Feb 18 2012, 10:30 PM)
then should be hammie or pupumaru gf lah....
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haha nope.. its a forte owners gf.

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:39 PM)
i no dare take piktar, lata her BF hit me, there got some lala... ask pupu or zeng, maybe they got her FB adi sweat.gif
i no rike hot hot de, i rike cute+gorgeous+manja+girl next door look
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lol.. i dunno her also.. just saw her so pretty so gatal gatal a bit go chit chat.. u might never know.. but my just out of bed serabai look must have totally put her off.


Added on February 18, 2012, 10:49 pm
QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:46 PM)
noo la, i found 1, but i kena friendzoned by her cry.gif


Added on February 18, 2012, 10:47 pm

so crank pulley gives faster acceleration and save FC?
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Yes.. Thats y we so diehard want to change LCP.. RM330 only. I think it takes around 20k km to fully payback in savings on FC.. somemore u get the performance increase at the same time.

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post Feb 18 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:53 PM)
forte owner doh.gif  so ada wang ada amoi is true la sad.gif no wonder i cannot get her, she says she rikes VW zzz

20k km can payback FC liao? quite a good deal wo


Added on February 18, 2012, 10:56 pm

higher mass higher momentum, since F=ma, so higher mass also higher force, power, i forgot the formula liao, lol
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yeah .. If i drove a beetle that time and dressed properly i could have got her number ady..

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 18 2012, 11:02 PM)
F=ma

less mass less force lesser FC.. but you rev it force gone higher = more FC?
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Nope.. When u rev it.. lesser mass with the same amount of power applied means more faster rotation rate.. Its like spinning a wheel.. IF u spin a heavy and light wheel with the same energy, which spins faster easily?
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post Feb 19 2012, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(drexchan @ Feb 18 2012, 11:05 PM)
NOT OKAY.

I here-by calling off the group buy until further notice.
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Whoops.. Drex rage mode set in..

QUOTE(pupumaru @ Feb 18 2012, 11:06 PM)
Haha PedoBear really specialise in talking bout girls...

when he start cheong d sure more to say haha tongue.gif

anyways after installing LCP, immediately can feel the response and pick up much much better compared to before. Rev climb quicker too! need time to adjust my right leg now
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Nvm monitor FC first see if good enough.. If add with ETC at SP7 mode i dont know how the car revs going to fly..

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 18 2012, 11:19 PM)
dunno... i almost fail my physics...


Added on February 18, 2012, 11:20 pm

macam ini.. i just dont know how to put it.. 
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lol.. haha.. Ok lah physics pass, but presentation fail.. lol..

QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Feb 18 2012, 11:20 PM)
watching LGE vs Chua CD now...
feel a bit haywire liao....
Chua Cd talk Ayam jantan....... Wtf....
as in the past penang account was in negative and now become positive..
this is bad???
sorry out of topic..
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Got any good youtube link for the whole debate.. I want to watch leh..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 11:21 PM)
i doesnt mean that chick in EA la, i mean the girl im into rikes VW golf, she says beetle like frog, comfortable but funneh
then i think i will fail also.
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Ok no worries sent her my way..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Feb 18 2012, 11:21 PM)
today install lcp first thing in the morning...
my car is overdue for 10k service..heres my feedback after installation...before that.
my car has these mods.
1) works air filter,
2)iridium spark plugs,
3)decat and shrink the midbox...

after install the lcp i notice,

1) engine braking i can say quite bad.
2) i had trouble maintaing lower speed( my car is MT), usually overshoot...hard braking a lot..need to adjust my foot..
the good..
1) the rpm climb quite fast..and of course falling down quite fast too but
2) lower end torque improves quite a lot..especially for my car around 2-2.5k rpm
3) overall..my car goes faster now.. biggrin.gif
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ngeo88, here u go ur review.. smile.gif
Hmm PE manual cars tend to rev up a bit after u disengaged the clutch.. Now with LCP, the rev should be shooting everywhere.

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 18 2012, 11:35 PM)
ya, after i install SP and AF also, cant get use to it cause suddenly car so powderful, and, usually i cruising 120 RPM will be around 3k, bt now i cruise at 120 at same place RPM is lower then 3k biggrin.gif
now i kena poison for LCP liao, i was once a guai zai, laugh at people modding car till loud loud like ah beng, but now i did the same thing shakehead.gif
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haha.. THose loud loud ones are just mufflers.. see like my car silent killer, stock rims, no bodykits, lousy tires.. But when ppl come race me that time.... u know i know we know lah ah..

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Feb 18 2012, 11:52 PM)
injecting poison 
120km/h over 3krpm liao meh? for MT
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looks like this poison not developing..
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post Feb 19 2012, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Feb 19 2012, 01:27 AM)
i cant join you already.  bye.gif Btw did you install the ATF cooler?

Guys i wanna ask, if i change mai alternator pulley and compressor pulley does it affect the performance or make the car even hard to climb hills?  hmm.gif
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Not sure.. Since its also working in the same concept as the LCP.. So if u are experiencing difficulty in climbing hills then its going to be harder in the future.. I will test out the LCP in a hill climb to see if it really affects alot or just a little or none at all.
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 19 2012, 01:28 AM)
poison is controllable condition now, cuse i have to find a part time liao, but the problem is school starting soon, cannot find people which want to hire me for 1 month deng
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LOL.. Yeah lah too bad.. Nvm control first.. Get used to ur current mods first.. I recommend only modding LCP after 10k service..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 19 2012, 01:31 AM)
i tot lighter = easiaer hill climb rclxub.gif
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Yes, technically its easier to climb hills.. But thats with a manual car.. An auto car however, u have to slightly lift off on the throttle to trigger a gearchange, and due to our gearbox not being a DSG that can change faster than manual, combined with the faster spin down rate of the LCP, it will cause the RPM to drop below the optimal rev matching period.. Compared to a manual, where u can disengage the clutch but still continue to press the accelerator, so u can maintain the RPM by the time u shift into next gear..


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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Feb 19 2012, 01:35 AM)
My experience with LCP + Extractor, u need a good tyre that grips brows.gif true story whistling.gif
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Sobs.. cry.gif 96whp.. shocking.gif No wonder tire need to be good..

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 19 2012, 01:40 AM)
hmm.gif

would be interesting to try it out on a CVT

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I wonder if CVT cars can smoke all of us easily.. AFter all they just stay in the optimal powerband.. Damn.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Feb 19 2012, 01:53 AM)
yala, CVT so ghey, i want install CVT in my car hmm.gif
my house also, i go home need climb hill, go out also need climb hill, but i seldom rev leh, must try tmr zz
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LOL.. Get the Exora Turbo/nissan slyphy.. I love that type of CVT.. Damn sweet power..
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OMG HOLY MOTHER OF PORK CHOP!
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