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post Mar 31 2012, 11:15 AM

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Thanks Sandy90~!

Now i am thinking which uni provides the fast track n easy to go thru phd..hahaha
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post Apr 1 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Mar 31 2012, 11:15 AM)
Thanks Sandy90~!

Now i am thinking which uni provides the fast track n easy to go thru phd..hahaha
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Which majoring/ area you intend to do?
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post Apr 1 2012, 07:16 PM

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Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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QUOTE(IanLeeCH @ Apr 1 2012, 07:16 PM)
Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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Which uni for your mba?
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post Apr 1 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 1 2012, 08:05 PM)
Which uni for your mba?
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University of Sunderland. Why?
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QUOTE(IanLeeCH @ Apr 1 2012, 08:10 PM)
University of Sunderland. Why?
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Just askin so I can check out the cost for this uni.
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 1 2012, 08:12 PM)
Just askin so I can check out the cost for this uni.
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You want to study MBA?
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You want to study MBA?
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Not me. My sis planning to go for post grad.
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(IanLeeCH @ Apr 1 2012, 07:16 PM)
Hi guys... I just finished my MBA and considering whether should go for DBA or PHD as well.

But mind anyone can advise me the course will be in full time or part time?

I think its hard to find local college or uni providing overseas DBA. Except one, (http://www.itd.com.my/itdphp/business/itd_business.php) University of South Australia.

Anyone heard of this University?
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FYI, the University of South Australia already discontinue the program with ITD..
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post Apr 16 2012, 02:38 AM

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Just received an offer letter from OUM for their DBA (May 2012 Intake).

Year 1: Rm14,400
Year 2: Rm14,400
Year 3: Rm6,180
Year 4: Rm6,180
Total: Rm41,160


What do you guys think about OUM ? (Please note: OUM only offers part-time courses)


MMU: Rm61,900 (FT 3years)
UCSI: Rm54,600 (FT 3years)
IIUM: RM48,000 (FT 3-4years)
UKM: Rm44,000 (FT 3.5years)
HELP(U): Rm42,000 (FT 2.5-4.5years)
UUM: Rm36,080 (FT 2.5-3.5years at Razzen Business School)
USM: Rm28,350 (FT 3.5years)



Cheers.

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Mr.Wang
post Apr 16 2012, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 16 2012, 02:38 AM)
Just received an offer letter from OUM for their DBA (May 2012 Intake).

Year 1: Rm14,400
Year 2: Rm14,400
Year 3: Rm6,180
Year 4: Rm6,180
Total:  Rm41,160


What do you guys think about OUM ? (Please note: OUM only offers part-time courses)
MMU: Rm61,900 (FT 3years)
UCSI: Rm54,600 (FT 3years)
IIUM: RM48,000 (FT 3-4years)
UKM: Rm44,000 (FT 3.5years)
HELP(U): Rm42,000 (FT 2.5-4.5years)
UUM: Rm36,080 (FT 2.5-3.5years at Razzen Business School)
USM: Rm28,350 (FT 3.5years)
Cheers.
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What I think about OUM? The first thing that comes up in mind is this uni is for those working people who can't give 100% focus on their study. Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.
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post Apr 16 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 16 2012, 08:32 AM)
What I think about OUM? The first thing that comes up in mind is this uni is for those working people who can't give 100% focus on their study. Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.
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Thanks Mr Wang. Appreciate it. smile.gif

I do agree with you, where OUM's students are all working adults and couldn't focus on studying full-time.

However, Professor's expectation does not change compared to most Private Universities in Malaysia. (I have spoken to DBA Professors from MMU, UCSI & UUM on their course structure, exam format, assignment and pass-rate)
Most Universities are offering DBA with 10-12 modules (50/50 assignment & exams, some modules requires presentation) and thesis (averaging about 65,000words).

In terms of high quality expectation, UKM & USM requires all DBA students to maintain a minimum 3.0CGPA in order to graduate from their course.

To maintain 3.0 CGPA in a doctorate level degree is quite tough. (But I'm sure some students are capable of doing so)

Cheers everyone.
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Another thing is since it is only for those that do part time, lecturers expectation on their students tend to be lower. These are my perceptions on OUM.


Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 16 2012, 03:55 PM)
Thanks Mr Wang. Appreciate it.  smile.gif

I do agree with you, where OUM's students are all working adults and couldn't focus on studying full-time.

However, Professor's expectation does not change compared to most Private Universities in Malaysia. (I have spoken to DBA Professors from MMU, UCSI & UUM on their course structure, exam format, assignment and pass-rate)
Most Universities are offering DBA with 10-12 modules (50/50 assignment & exams, some modules requires presentation) and thesis (averaging about 65,000words).

In terms of high quality expectation, UKM & USM requires all DBA students to maintain a minimum 3.0CGPA in order to graduate from their course.

To maintain 3.0 CGPA in a doctorate level degree is quite tough. (But I'm sure some students are capable of doing so)

Cheers everyone.
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That might be true. But don't 100% believe what those professors told you. They tend to market their uni and wants more students to enroll, especially private uni.

QUOTE(Protoculture @ Apr 16 2012, 05:46 PM)
Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.
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Sure the more doctorate they can produce, they better they are. Though I'm not sure about the quality of those thesis. I know lecturers from local uni that admitted they don't really expect much from those doing part time doctorate due to their focus on work. And those that ask me a favor to analyze their research are mostly part timers.




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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Apr 16 2012, 05:46 PM)
Please be reminded, doctorate studies either DBA or PhD-BA offered at OUM specifically designed towards working adults. This means it is more structured, flexible as for these adult learners to plan & manage their doctorate studies without having to sacrifice their careers.

OUM already have doctorate students graduated in all 5 PhD (Business Admin / Education / Science / Engineering / IT) courses offered at the University. Yes, it is all research basis that required thesis dissertation.

My personal view, irregardless of any University in Malaysia, if you're willing to sacrifice valuable time, finance in order to pursue doctoral studies, deserve a salute. Because many pursuing PhDs always either make it or break it halfway.

But, the fact some adult learners willing to juggle family, work, personal life with studies at the same time, earn more respect from me.
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I guess most people forgotten that doctorate courses requires external examiner from other universities.

All doctoral students required to defend their thesis in the viva voce, where external examiners must attend.
That's how Universities ensure all thesis are at the doctoral-level research.

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post Apr 20 2012, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(munhong @ Apr 19 2012, 09:12 PM)
I guess most people forgotten that doctorate courses requires external examiner from other universities.

All doctoral students required to defend their thesis in the viva voce, where external examiners must attend.
That's how Universities ensure all thesis are at the doctoral-level research.

Cheers. smile.gif
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Even at masters level got external examiner la. Except masters by coursework.
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 20 2012, 03:22 AM)
Even at masters level got external examiner la. Except masters by coursework.
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That's true. Most doctoral courses have external examiner, however for masters, only by research based (Example: MPhil etc).
I didn't know we are discussing master's degrees as well.

Cheers Mr.Wang smile.gif

This post has been edited by munhong: Apr 20 2012, 10:07 PM
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sorry for going out of topic a bit, but do you guys checked the accreditation before signing up for a Masters' or Doctorate programme? hmm.gif

I am thinking of getting a PhD/DBA soon, but when I tried to search for Malaysia accreditation (MQA to be specific), it seems like there are very little to choose from.
to my surprise, UM(or some other local uni like UKM,UPM etc) seems like out of the picture for Masters' and Doctorate. Though they are listed for Diplomas and Degrees or did I get the whole accreditation thingy wrong? hmm.gif
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First and foremost, I do not agree that DBA is less tougher or easier than Phd. In pursuing DBA, students are required to further enhance or contribute to the body of knowledge.

If you want to find cheap fees, then go to local U. However, please be reminded that the failure is rampant, the rates of success applicant is very low due to these factors:

1. Lack of supervision

In local or public U, the lecturers may have to supervise several or many PHD candidates and on top of that, they have to give lectures to thousands of undergrads students. The morale is low, promotion is based on seniority, do you think they care about you??

2. No guidance or the candidate will lost in the middle of the Phd journey

The role of supervisor is undeniable. Even in DBA, a concrete theoretical framework is required in order to do your thesis. This is important for all Phd or DBA candidate and the input from the supervisor is critical.

So, if you want to really earn this degree (Phd or DBA), please go to private u that have links or collaboration with Overseas U. If u think u can succeed with minimal supervision from local U, then go ahead. This is not MBA or masters my friend, bear in mind that DBA or PHD requires a lot of attention and effort compared to MBA, MA or MSC. The gap is too wide.

However, private U, for instance City U in collaboration with Southern Cross U, Australia offers a fee of RM65k for the whole program.
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im interested in getting a DBA, but the problem is, i would like to get an oversea certification instead done locally. and the only Uni that offers this is institute of training and development ( collaborate with university of South Australia, one of 127 business schools accredited by the European Quality Improvement System) and city university (collaborate with university of Ballarat, five-star rating for teaching quality in the 2011).

anyone taking DBA mind to shed some light on the course(which U) taken and the feedbacks? smile.gif

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