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I'm surprised that we have no dedicated thread for Hawken while we have some indications on other threads.





This game was first announced along with what people been doing with UDK last year, Hawken's one of it.
Okay, now this got your attention and if you're interested sign up above.
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*btw, mods im not sure if this thread should be in Online sub-section or here? pls do shed a light or free to move it over.

This post has been edited by LWRNCH6550: Oct 19 2012, 04:26 PM

Well it's not exactly an MMO. So lets keep it in here for now.

i believe this is an mmo? because it is stated to be a free to play game.

maybe it's more like world of tanks.

Prepare for mini transaction !

This has been on my wish list for a while. I really miss mech games despite Hawken isnt exactly a traditional mech game.

Teaser is up

So while everyone one is kickstarting this and that, I thought I'd give this a deserved bump. It's made by a small team of 9, it's got mechs, it's only multiplayer but it's free to play while remaining totally indie. How did they fund this? They had a business plan and they managed to get financed through that.

That's more honest than saying, hey give me some cash so that i just might a game that you like. The more money you give me, the more meaningless trash you might get. Micro-transactions are just more honest and are no different that my my days spent in cigarette smoke filled arcades shoving 20sen coins into money eating machines.

Rant aside. Hawken. Mechs. I might never play it because its multi player but damn doesn't it look good enough to eat to you?

Looks good, but it played kinda weird in the alpha, at least from the viewpoint of a SEA gamer trying to hook up to US servers. Maybe when they release it'll get better.

Firstly, it depends on who is kickstarting a project, if it is someone who has a proven track record, like Obsidian, Uber, or Chris Roberts, i do not see whats wrong with putting money in some game that doesnt exist. If any of these kickstarter is remotely similar to my experience with Project CARS, you are not just doing a really advance preorder of a game. You are paying to fund the game as an investor and also a voice to influence the development of the game. What kind of game will it be? Is it a free to play or one of payment? Is it gonna be a hardcore game or it is built for idiots on 360s who cant take anything complex? The way Project CARS is, i am very happy with the state of the game.

And most of the time, these kickstarters are making things that people want, from old school RPGs, large scale RTS to space combat games that not many traditional publisher or investor would want to fund it. No doubt one of these projects will fail, but i rather invest a small amount of money, than paying these greedy publishers or free to play developers to make another boring brown and bloom shooter or another "free" to play game.

I rather pay for these games that havent even started production, than getting into another money ripping free to play games. These free to play games are designed in a way that you have to keep paying money or grind the crap out of it to get maximum enjoyment out of it. I have heavily invested in one free to play games, the notorious NFS World which made me reluctant to start another one because it will cost me more than a few full priced retail games, all just for one game. Thankfully, i manage to reduce the ratio of real money to virtual money in NFS World that made the game felt more value the money than the way it was.

HAWKEN does look really good, but will i pay for it? Unlikely.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 24 2012, 01:22 PM

As much as I enjoy reading your diatribes, this game is free. They are asking you to try and if you like, pay for like optional stuff.

to respond individually to your paragraphs:

There was user involvement through forums, alphas and betas. However, I actually think that crowdsourcing ideas is actually worse than crowdsourcing finance. You don't have to look far to see the power of focus testing and user involvement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Idol_finalists

This game is in a genre that people "do not want"/fallen out of favour, mechwarrior type mechs etc.

2 benefits of kickstarter without having to "invest", and they didn't even have to be chris roberts, tim schaffer or al lowe to make a game! http://www.adhesivegames.com/team.html

You had a bad experience with NFS. Boo Hoo. Whether you like it or not, free to play is as valid a business model as crowdsourced financing and is here to stay.

It's free to try. If you don't like it don't play.

Optional stuff, to be honest, that never exist in most free to play games. For most, it is either you pay up for a bit to a lot of advantage over none paying players or do the grind for all those essential items. If they gave everything out for free and easily obtainable, how will they make money? Besides, good free to play games like Dota 2, Team Fortress 2 and League of Legends to a certain extend, are rare gems in the entire free to play market. On the other hand, most free to play games are just pay up to be better or be an underdog for free, which thats what essentially free to play games become.

First of all, in my experience with Project CARS, you do not get unrestricted access to voice every idea you want to be in the game because too many ideas will ruin the game at the end. Slightly Mad Studio will make polls on certain design aspects such as do people want more cars or better engine sounds in the game, not opening up the whole development for people to suggest any absurd suggestions. It take both sides to make this approach work.

Also, i do not just play NFS as a free to play, as i do play other free to play games, from Airmech, Tribes: Ascend, Blacklight Retribution, League of Legends and Team Fortress 2. Most of them have this problem: if you do not pay the developers enough, you will never get full access to the game which is a huge turn off to play these games. Not to forget about most of the time, paid exclusive items will be better to a certain magnitude than free items which can be seen in many free to play games, like NFS World's high end expensive cars that is outright better than most free cars, Tribes Ascend's new items is always more imbalanced than older items, Blacklight's incendiary ammo gives an edge over people who do not pay up and even Team Fortress 2 suffer from this when a new slightly overpowered weapon is released, people who paid for it will always have an edge over people who choose to wait for the item to drop.

If not, you have to play the game as if it is your second life to unlock any many content as possible, which i have no interest to be invested all my time in one game. There is no point to be a monogamer when there are a lot of interesting games out there to play. If there is a day where single players game are all dead, i guess i'll quit gaming because free to play business model is just obnoxious.

That is the nature of free to play games, which i am not a fan of it to begin with. Thanks to the idiotic Koreans for inventing this nonsense.

Free to play is a valid business model, but that doesnt mean it is the best model out there. Just like the facebook games bubble that have broke recently, free to play will probably go along this path when the market is oversaturated with these games.

Adhesive can promise all they want with their no pay to win policy, but we'll see how is it in practise. Mechwarrior Online, as far as i know, has failed completely at this aspect, while Planetside 2 seems to have divided the player base to different tiers with different level of benefits.

i just got my beta keys here:
http://mmohuts.com/giveaways/hawken-closed-beta-key-giveaway

try downloading it now, i wonder if its gonna be lagging or not @.@

anybody experienced this game?

Cheers for the heads up. Downloading it now.

just notice for this closed beta session server will be up:

Friday, October 26th to Monday, October 29th. The servers are expected to open around noon (12pm PDT -8 GMT) on Friday afternoon and will close at 11:59pm PDT (-8 GMT) on Monday evening.

SOURCE

So finished download and installed, still need to wait saturday morning to play.

This post has been edited by CheaTeRz: Oct 25 2012, 05:52 PM

hawken beta code for anyone who wants it

tl;dr

Not gonna pay for any stuffs but gonna play the game anyway, lol.

I just saw this really cool front cover magazine at Kinokuniya and I thought it was some kind of 3D modelling magazine but when I read, it was from Hawken.

EDGE

server is online until monday, sadly my pc cant run it well.

keep error saying run out of internal/video memory.

sigh, gonna stick to mechwarrior then

I played quite alot of the alpha but cannot post infos cause under NDA

They mentioned very clearly that there's no NDA this time for video and screenshots

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Added on October 28, 2012, 7:17 pmLoved the game but very disappointed with the closed beta. Could barely play normally with the 300-500 ping. Top that with the awful graphics optimization on the first day

This post has been edited by Vyrnach: Oct 28 2012, 07:17 PM

Game looks fantastic and i really do like the overall feel of the game. But the latency is killing the fun for me. The twitch nature of the game makes every ping counts. And in those urban maps, the rubber band lag + the collision detection makes maneuvering a real pain. At times i feel like im fighting against my mech when traversing through the structures. The only way I'll be playing this game at launch is if they provide oceanic servers at the very least.

This post has been edited by Vyrnach: Oct 28 2012, 07:29 PM

The game feels underwhelming to be honest, even though i love the gameplay with it's nice blend between mech games and modern shooters.

The business model is the problem where it is just too damn grindy. Pretty much every match gives you only around 50 Hawken points, while buying even an upgrade like an offensive turret cost like 1500 Hawken Points which will take hours and hours to buy even one upgrade.

Another pay to win nonsense.

I'm pretty damn sure that they have yet to actually activate the Hawken points thing since I've played a couple of games and I've yet to earn anything.

Also, at the end of a game, the results screen will state how much you earned during the game and my earned points is usually 1.5k and above so...

Jumping to conclusions much?

1.5k is your experience for the mech you are using. There are 3 types of "points" in the game: Hawken Points, Meteor Points and your own mech's Experience. Mechs can be grinded, but it is just gonna take quite some time.

How about try to play more?

Don't see a problem with the free to play model. It's not going to be mainstream but there is a niche market for it. Just look at World of Tanks. It's grindy but it still able to pull players and they have a healthy little community that supports it.

Hawken is already looking quite impressive, they just need to iron out certain issues like oceanic servers. The xp issue can be done much later as they get more and better feedback from players.

Closed beta 2 starting soon. Really hoping they add more servers now if you know what I mean

Putting this here just in case anyone needs it

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Added on November 12, 2012, 9:03 amHad a lot of fun in the 32 player server. But still no SEA/Oceanic server. Didn't stop me though




This post has been edited by Vyrnach: Nov 12 2012, 09:03 AM

good lord, i never even get a chance to try out the first closed beta even while i had the keys.
I was too damn busy that few days.

Any news on release date yet?
This game got story mode like in GW2?

As far as I know, no ACTUAL story mode gameplay whatsoever apart from the separate live action tie-in.

Released on 12-12-12 internationally. Hopefully anyway

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Added on November 23, 2012, 9:23 amSEA server announced for CB3 running now!

This post has been edited by Vyrnach: Nov 23 2012, 09:23 AM

Just saw the game play.. damn its hot. This will be my go to for some fast action when i'm tired of MWO.

A good year for mech stuff indeed.

Going to get me the commander pack.

This post has been edited by ashx: Nov 25 2012, 04:43 AM

Gave it a go few days ago, everything seems to be good except some glitches in the maps like frequently stuck on some small floor objects. Got kaboombed so many times due to those glitches. On the desert map, everything is smooth except the graphics side. Sure is graphics power intense, i need to tone it down to mid-low or low in order to play it without choke.

Running X6 1055t @ 3.5ghz
more than enough rams
GTX460 OCed 800/2000+

For those who have something lower than these, be ready. lol

Other than metro2033, this is one of the games i have issue with graphics even at medium. Might be optimization or something else and worst is i can only fill up so little details in the in-game bug report. The forum is a mess, lol.

Yes, that map stuck glitch and also... I feel that it needs abit more speed. the maximum altitude and fuel restriction are too tight..

Some higher places require you to hover on something slightly higher first to reach the top

those graphics look pretty impressive

btw, would you at least please spoiler your overly large images.

Eh..

Nobody playing??? Quite fun game actually..

yes, and currently, the game is buggy and laggy as hell having a diarrhea with 700ms ping @ low graphics setting on my current PC.
Everything else is ok so far. Not sure about any recent updates on beta etc etc, but still in beta AFAIK.
Might wanna wait till the beta ends and actual release comes only then i restart the mecha.

To those who are having lag, i'm on unifi and South Asia servers give me 40ms ping, North Asia servers 110ms. Totally playable. Lagless game, love it. Even with my cousin's streamyx 1MB line in kuantan, my ping was 70ms

This game is free to play. The MC is just for you not to grind, or skip grinding. So it's rather, pay to not grind. However, pilot skill is much more valuable than mech level. I'm able to pawn you with a level 1 mech.

Besides, they've ironed out most of the bugs. It definitely has more players these days. So give it a try!

Wow, seems gooding... OK, will take a look, how is the size?

This post has been edited by ongweiping: Feb 20 2013, 10:07 AM

I don't wanna play with North Asian people.

Always get pwned...

No thanks, I wont return to this game, as it is just another game that is designed to encourage you to pay up once you start playing. Thats what the creators of Hawken said in a F2P conference. I do not mind paying, as long as the prices for the items are reasonably priced, where the way Hawken priced the items is just absurd. Even some new unlocks or cosmetic stuff cost way too much for barely anything. This game is not designed to be value for money.

Gameplay wise isnt that amazing anyway.

So, no thanks, I'll go back to Tribes Ascend or Dota 2.

South Asia servers are quite full at nights too.

you're just another game basher that thinks a level 1 mech would most def lose to a level 25 mech. i'm just going to say this once more. I'm able to pawn you with a level 1 mech no matter which mech you use because player skill is the cap, not items or internals in THIS GAME. i dare you to accept this challenge, if not, do not say things such as it's a P2W game.

I hate the fact that this game doesn't allow you to easily party with friends to find matches. We'll have to try and coordinate together to find a match if we want to play together. Btw, this was a month ago.

Also hate that the customization on the mechs are minimal (As a free player).

Yup, there's no LAN features.

You mean visual/stylish customizations?

Yeah the visual & style customization. Nearly all of the mechs look identical to one another, especially when everyone is using the same versatile Recruit mech.

Hawken.. Fun game. Its really nice. However only thing that totally a downturner is the 1 sided matches

You know where 1 side is the experience team players and the other is the PUG.(pick up group) Which the game end up where everywhere u go u just end up being gang up by 2-3 mechs in most fights.



How does this works? I got a feeling i gonna look like a complete noob later. IIRC hawken dont have private 1 vs 1 match do they?

This post has been edited by redeye84: Feb 21 2013, 03:42 PM

I dont bash games with no reasons behind but I am skeptical or even cynical with a lot of new games due to the way of the game industry works. No doubt Hawken is a pretty fun game, even though there are some issues with the gameplay.

I never said the game to be P2W, but the game is not designed to be value for money or cosmetic only. Considering how pricey is the in game items, I will never return to the game. There is no reason where a game's custom skin cost a bomb.

you can paint your mech different colour.. COD also what, everyone looks the same

yea they're in the midst of improving matchmaking. you can have 1v1 matches in deathmatch

the only thing that can't be bought with free credits is mech skins, visual-parts. i.e. pay-to-look-nice. so if that doesn't suit you then dont play. you're not forced to purchase the optional visual enhancements. just that when Hawken introduces this concept of pay-to-look-nice, people start complaining that it's not worth their money. yea it's not worth your money but it doesn't affect how we play the game right? same with COD, LoL, DotA, CS, TF2, everyone looks the same and no one complains.

Sure you are not forced to buy cosmetic parts, but how about getting new mechs? You either grind hours and hours for it, where evidently, no one wants to grind 5 hours for a small upgrade or 20 hours for a new gun in Tribes.

The whole idea of putting a long waiting time before getting any reward is a huge turn off. Not to forget that ugly mech you get when you first start playing, where it feels like they deliberately give you a terrible looking mech so that you spend money to make it look better or just pay to skip the grind for more mechs to choose. This supports my theory that they designed the game so that you spend money on it.

Did Dota 2 have any paid only heroes? No, it doesnt, and the only paid stuff are tournament tickets, skins or voice packs. Thats how free to play should have been, not tempting people to spend money on actual upgrades or just let them grind on hours end for an upgrade.

Lastly, if you had enjoyed the game, good for you. Dont have to defend a game religiously.

bashers will always be bashers. just get out of this topic. kthxbai

just started to play this few hours ago, nice graphic and lag-free even when play with USA servers.
become MVP once lol.

is the game still in beta phase now ? sorry4being a usesless TS, lol.
jan to feb betai had bad lags in terms of connection and framerates.

its getting better. now with technician mech and more maps.

This post has been edited by Uzumaki NaruTo: May 22 2013, 02:33 PM

Hawken.... Good try for Indie.

Still very far from Front Mission ( Square Enix )
Except Multiplayer, Front Mission give you complete Super Mech Driver Experience. And its cost lost cheaper.

yup, but changed to open beta edi.
They gameplay is consider smooth and balanced although i got high ping (200~300)

sounds good, the latency i had is the issue.
My previous play spikes between 300~500ms, render it unplayable + unstable graphics optimization.
still havnt try with my new gpu though.

300ms is acceptable, but often ball breaker. Above 350ms ping i'm leaving the game, i have medium hopes for this game eventhough the F2P Micro crap.

micro crap is mostly for costume purpose
I would rather play longer for weapon upgrads lol.

The starting mech (CT recruit) also not bad.....i can achieve 11 killing streak without dying.

This post has been edited by sI Taufu: May 22 2013, 06:17 PM

My in-game handle: digitalis

Let's work those SEA servers!

u guys go first ! gonna do eeet on weekend. feeling unwell these few days.
Maybe friday ! But...but...i forgot which email and id i've been using, i need to dig em back.

Anyone still playing this game?

Found a gameplay video from the SEA players in the official forum. Looks fun and the graphics look amazing!




This post has been edited by pcrot: Feb 8 2014, 08:49 PM

I just got this game from Steam. Hope to see you all in the game!

Same here, just got it from steam

anyone want Meteor Credit ?? Got a voucher of $50USD worth of Meteor Credit. I'm selling it at RM100. pm me.

https://community.playhawken.com/topic/6879...january-2-2018/