Cheers Bro,
Which words that showed I'm emotional? haha
Anyway, I just curious when people said Gen 8 more powerful than Gen 9 because it's DOHC.

But the info from Honda showed, HP is same for both while torque Gen 9 have extra 2 than Gen 8.
Please elaborate, saya budak baru belajar.

However, Civic US aka gen9.5(perhaps) is gorgeous. Anybody have info, it this version coming to m'sia or not?

SOHC has a characteristic of better pickup from stationary compare to DOHC (low rev).

DOHC has more omph during high rev

SOHC has a characteristic of better pickup from stationary compare to DOHC (low rev).

DOHC has more omph during high rev

Can you explain in layman. (note...we are talking on civic 2.0 Dohc vs civic 2.0 Sohc ya)

Such as... when you potong other car you need pickup, so sohc better.
When you drive 150kmh... Dohc engine still quiet but sohc have some noise and berat. Long term..civic dohc engine will lasting than civic sohc. (Example)

Can you explain in layman. (note...we are talking on civic 2.0 Dohc vs civic 2.0 Sohc ya)

Such as... when you potong other car you need pickup, so sohc better.
When you drive 150kmh... Dohc engine still quiet but sohc have some noise and berat. Long term..civic dohc engine will lasting than civic sohc. (Example)

For those who want to read on SOHC vs DOHC.

http://paultan.org/2005/06/22/sohc-vs-dohc-valvetrains/

Can you explain in layman. (note...we are talking on civic 2.0 Dohc vs civic 2.0 Sohc ya)

Such as... when you potong other car you need pickup, so sohc better.
When you drive 150kmh... Dohc engine still quiet but sohc have some noise and berat. Long term..civic dohc engine will lasting than civic sohc. (Example)

Overall, the new Civic takes a step back in many areas when compared to other similar C segment cars such as the 408, Jetta, Focus. Haven't seen the new Corolla Altis, new Slyphy or new Mazda 3 yet so can't comment on those.

- Interior dash quality
- No more fold down seats (WTH?)
- Engine. But no doubt the R series engine is better for FC. Those who wants to mod their car will be very sorely disappointed the number of things they can do compared to the K series engine.
- Small boot
- QC, many many complaints about finishing, gaps, i-mid errors etc.

Even as an co-owner of a 1.8FB, I'd have to say its a very poor effort by Honda this time round :/

Bro,
Simple layman language lah ye.....
HP or PS or whatever measurement indicator..... all stated on paper.
Example 155PS in , Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, KIA, Hyndai, VW, Peugeot & many brands.
Not all the same even though it is the same in numbering "155"

We r talking about Honda 2.0 Sohc and Honda 2.0 Dohc. Not Toyota, Mazda, proton. kia and etc.



This is what Honda advertised worldwide. If incorrect or just on paper, they shud kena sue. Update. Nobody sue Honda about this

Again, layman language, your Size is L for John Master, it might be XL size if it's Charlie brand
But if u bring your body & tested... your ll not really emphasis on L or XL but fix & comfort.
You light up my life bro

SOHC vs DOHC
which 1 better in overall?

Civic FD - Gen 8 (2005-2009) & Gen 8.5 (FL Model, 2009-2012) series
1.8i & 1.8L (Both SOHC)
2.0 & 2.0 M Concept (DOHC)
Why Honda made SOHC for 1.8 & not DOHC?
or both DOHC for 1.8 & 2.0?
We are talking about 2.0 not 1.8.

Civic FB (2012-now)
1.8 & 2.0 (Both SOHC)
How can u be sure of performance?
i) Try to get any 2.0 DOHC from friend or tested from used car
ii) Again tested 2.0 SOHC
i)I don't know the performance because never test. If i test, sure I rembat kaw kaw until maximum. Can test your car?  
ii)Any SA can give me a test drive to rembat...? If I dont rembat sure I dont know whether sohc can perform or not 

You can feel the difference by your own.
Me, tested both & my experience :
i) 2.0 SOHC not that powerful compare to 2.0 DOHC
ii) Ask honest Honda mechanic, ensure No bias element, He ll tell u, 2.0 SOHC FC slightly lower as well as power.
i)Thanks for your opinion.
ii) Theory wise is like that la. How about Dohc year 2001 technology compare with Sohc 2012 technology?

If u happy with Gen 9 design, SOHC engine & low FC, then go for Gen 9
Im happy with Civic US design. But no choice

If u ask when new FL ll be available (Gen 9.5), I don't think u ll get the answer
But if u follow the automobile rythm, u can see, whatever model launch in Thailand, ll be in Malaysia 6-12 mths.
When honda start to give 8-10k discounts, it's time for new facelift to come.

If Honda Msia leak info, Gen 9.5 ll be launched soon, mean they prepared to suicide!
Me, at 1st place, I though Gen 8 & FL model quite old (2005-2012), I am about to wait for new model Gen 9, wait since 2011, tiba-tiba, I saw Gen 9 in US, India & later on Thailand... that moment, I make up my mind to Buy Gen 8FL (FD2).
I used for 9 mths & experience
FC in long distance very save 16 cents/km
only town very 22-25 cents/km
I hunt for the answer & finally get 1 which made me satisfy
U look for low FC, go for Vios, MyVi for Viva even better.

U want performance 2.0 DOHC, a friend of mine expert in Honda servicing told me SOHC Jimat FC but less power.
Your Honda expert friend just said.... SOHC Jimat FC but less power.??? That all?

I strongly believe u bukan budak-budak, buying RM100K++ toys is not a joke.
Tested, make up your mind & buy....
If u want Urgent, buy now but if u can wait, surely there ll be FB2 but no one can tell exept:
1) God
2) Honda CEO
3) Time to tell
Thanks

Sorry bcoz saying emotional...... but my intention just contribute some idea as sharing in this forum
It's ok, once I buy 2.0 fb, then we can test drag.

If I were u now, I ll consider Mazda 3 (skyactiv 2.0) as low as Vios the FC
World top 10 engine & superb design vs Civic Gen9

Mazda good in design, engine, handling, performance but poor in Resell Value
Agreed.

Thanks Bro for the above link, very clear explaination
As a conclusion

2.O SOHC
PRO
i) Pick up better in "low-end" mode, like city driving, stuck in the trafic jam
ii) Low FC in city drive due to low RPM in city driving
CON
i) Highway (less power & high FC)
ii) Long distance "high-end" driving in high way (100km/h & above), high RPM causing high FC

As my conclusion, SOHC suitable for:
i) City driving
ii) Drive that not really emphasis on "Speed" (120km/h & below)

Yes. The article is correct in general term.
Out off topic..
I remember last 2 years when Honda produce CBR250r Single cylinder 2011. People compare with successful Kawasaki Ninja 250r with 2 cylinder 2008.
It's almost the same scenario with sohc vs dohc debate.

1 cylinder - save fuel but need to sacrifice the hp. Engine vibrate also very high.
2 cylinders - for performance but minyak a little bit kuat.

Result in real life,

Top speed for both almost same. 160kmh.
Torque cbr win.
No high vibration as claimed in the engine for cbr.
cbr more fuel saving and euro3 complied.

Why this happen? it's technology and it's Honda.

To be honest, 95% of people that saying gen 9 is ugly and condemm the car is gen8 owner.
Where is the source, evident on the statistic of 95%, any research base or studies?

Again, gen9 is still hot cake with highest sales for c segment in our country mean its not ugly. Who want to spend 130k for ugly car?
DIE HARD FAN WILL DO THAT FOR SURE

1 bad thing is the price tag. Honda msia take advantage for H brand.
Price = Demand vs Supply (Tolong Boikot Honda, Surely $ drop)

Lancer GT 2.0 120k cbu japan, ford focus titanium 2.0 115k with lot of feature.
RM115K & RM120K (CBU Japan is high quality & low price), Just Buy It, Value for Money