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post Apr 15 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(raj84 @ Apr 15 2012, 01:32 PM)
German referees lenient  drool.gif

Come on, we all knw wat certain Mr.Wolfgang Stark did in last seasons Champions League!!!!!

Barcelona can cope with any referee in this planet  !!!!!! Believe me....
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Read my words, I said some and not every single one of them tongue.gif

Seriously if you do follow Bundesliga, you'll probably understand that their refereeing standard is way above other top European leagues. That's my personal opinion. smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel10Messi @ Apr 15 2012, 07:55 PM)
stop acting like a sore loser whining about referees will ya?

madrid got a fair share of such dubious decisions.  whistling.gif
deny that and you can continue to b!tch about it. wink.gif
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Dude, I don't wanna be rude but, you don't advise others at their own house, that is considered rude as well plus if you really wanna say something, you can make it a tad nicer or don't say at all cause even the smallest thing can start a big fire. Hope you understand and continue to discuss something better. Peace~
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post Apr 15 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel10Messi @ Apr 15 2012, 09:40 PM)
u are the only 1 whining here.  only losers blame referees.
when both team meets, only 1 team came up with lunging tackles and flying kicks.  smile.gif
See, now you started to response by insulting Real Madrid and the fan in their 'house'. This will get ugly. I assume that you are not new here so you should understand that when you're discussing something sensitive about the opposition, it'll be more comfortable if you can just do that within your circle rather than coming to the opposition's thread and giving an aggressive response that will lead to something bad.

Since you have good manners and mature enough, I'm quite sure you can understand my concern over this particular stuff. wink.gif

QUOTE(mrkenn @ Apr 15 2012, 09:44 PM)
Hmm there's no need come in here to bash eachother.

Maybe coentrao can take the RB slot in el-classico? brows.gif
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It's more like Coentrao will get a nod for the game against Bayern (Marcelo tend to push forward and leave the space behind him open. It'll be ugly for us since Robben will be playing there).

They were well know for their flanks (Robben and Ribery) and given that Arbeloa is currently our weakness with his poor positional discipline, I'm predicting that Ribery will partner with Lahm to push both Arbeloa and most probably Di Maria further back at our own half place, limiting the threat and creating possible chance to lay in crosses for Gomez.

On our left flank, there'll be Robben alone since their LB (most probably will be Rafinha) will be busy guarding Ronaldo. They will field their strongest attacking side against us since the 1st leg will be at Allianz Arena.
Bastian is already fit enough to replace either one of the CM. Jupp Heynckes will seriously consider his service as he's proven to be crucial for Bayern's counter attack and high passing rate.

Their most used line up in UCL

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Tactically, they're almost similar to us. Overall this season at home or away, Bayern attacked more on the left flank (40%) than their right (34%) and very few from the center (26%). They love to hold on to the ball more with 65% average possession at home and have 83% of successive passing rate which goes on to show their tendency to pass more and high level of understanding between their players.

With or without Schweinsteiger, we have to hold on to the ball more and if we did just that, we are actually stopping Robben and Ribery from attacking and lessen their main threat.

Regardless all the statistical percentage given, may I remind you guys that we will be facing a team that is very very close to play the UCL finale in their own stadium. If I am a Real Madrid player, that will be the sole reason for me to be overcautious against them. sweat.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 12:03 AM

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The statistic tells a different story. whistling.gif

UEFA Champions League record: 24 matches, 109 Yellow Cards, 4 Sending-Offs

Record with the involved teams:

Bayern München: 5 matches (4 CL, 1 EL), 1 Win, 2 Draws, 2 Defeats (including CL final 2010)

Real Madrid: 2 matches (2 CL), 1 Win, 1 Draw

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post Apr 16 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Apr 16 2012, 12:46 PM)
Where are u guys planning to watch the match?
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QUOTE(botaknet @ Apr 16 2012, 12:53 PM)
So far @ Home. Plan to watch outside? Please dun say Cyberjaya. KL/Bangsar/PJ sure can.
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Haha, jokin only, PJ? it's kinda far from me. But fair enough, everybody can/have to give suggestions so that we can actually meet up.

Verx, how about you bro?
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post Apr 16 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(botaknet @ Apr 16 2012, 12:44 PM)
How about 1-1 at Allianz Arena. pretty good result though? hehe
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I'm rooting for 2-0 but I get why you predicted that scoreline. If we score early, we might have a chance to hold on to the lead. But, I'm a bit worried because Enjin Real Madrid slalu lambat panas dan dia kasi hati fan2 dia jadi cepat panas! mad.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:33 PM

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It's been a while guys. It's time to revenge our bad luck~


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post Apr 17 2012, 01:11 AM

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Robben was saying something about the match that Bayern will have to give their 120% to beat Madrid.

If they meant to attack us, then there wont be Tymoshchuk, Kroos/Schweinsteiger will replace him and Muller will play just behind Gomez. Damn, that's one heck of a line up. Can't wait to watch the match!
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post Apr 18 2012, 01:55 PM

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Marcelo will miss the 2nd leg if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, very little to talk about the match since Mou have decided to sit back after the goal. We gave them space, we gave away possession eventually, they will score.

But we got the all important away goal and there'll be no other option other than to attack and win.

Vamos Real! Hasta El Final~

Now, Barca's next~
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post Apr 18 2012, 04:44 PM

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Both actually done the same. Pressed, scored and then defended. But we, defender poorly and conceded again.
Kaka would've and could've made the difference had he been subbed in for Ozil or Maria. But, Mou want to hold on to the 1-1 scoreline after he saw Bayern started to pressure. He gambled and failed.

I don't know why and what was the sub was needed for. Our 1st player carded right after the goal was scored. So, that means, we were comfortable with our gameplay at that moment, before the goal. After the goal, we gave them space and we tried to defend, our players were carded, like 6 of them. Can't he see the pattern. Ozil/Kaka were crucial in a battle of 4-2-3-1 vs 4-2-3-1 because the one in the middle is the one connects front and back, left and right. Taking the character our is suicidal and we did just that.

So seriously hope Mourinho can learn from this and bounce back 7 days from now~



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QUOTE(mrkenn @ Apr 18 2012, 06:10 PM)
Really? But i thought we had the chance to sign silva. But opted for di maria instead? I'm sure silva would choose us instead of man city. From what i see, angel di maria overall is a better player than david silva. He's pace-ier, quicker, more skillful, finishing wise i still think di maria is better. Silva is more towards technical. Makes a lot of assists. But di maria has a lot of assists as well! Sorry, i don't really know how to "rate" a player. Maybe most of my terms are wrong. Maybe verx can give us his valuable opinions! smile.gif

One nice video on di maria


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Though I'm really fond of Di Maria before his injury,in a team like Madrid, I think Silva suits better. But, it's a lost cause to be talking about it anymore. Di Maria is getting better and better and right now, he's still trying to find his rhythm and once he's there, everybody will forget about Silva. smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:16 PM

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His father is the one who does all this talk about his transfer. For me, like Raul88 said, he's one of the vice captain and he fights for the shirt. Regardless what future holds, I'm proud to have a player like him played for us.

Aguero, a player who mocked and bad mouthed Real Madrid when he was playing for Atletico. No doubt that he's a talent but I prefer Higuain over him any day.
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post Apr 20 2012, 05:54 AM

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Anyone watched Sporting vs Bilbao just now. Damn, Sporting copied the exact same way Bilbao played against Man Utd not long ago. They were the better side with less sloppy passes and timed their tackle better than Bilbao. Diego Capel (previously played for Sevilla) were outstanding and scored a wonderful winning goal.

But, Bilbao played without their main playmaker, Javi Martinez and in the return leg, expect them to fire up right from the 1st whistle. Bilbao in San Mamez against a good European team will always be a mouth watering clash~

QUOTE(girugaga86 @ Apr 19 2012, 08:54 PM)
i thought they played pretty well prior to Ozil's goal. After that, i dont even know what happenedshakehead.gif

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Like I mentioned before, both are attacking teams and both can operate well when they possess the ball more. Prior to Ribery's goal, it was an even game, then we step up, switching Di Maria and Ozil back to their actual position which made us play a tad better every time we go forward. Then after the goal, we still tried pushing them back and lurking in their penalty box for 2nd goal. Then, Bayern tried high pressing game which our MFs thought they can exploit the space in Bayern's half but they were wrong. Bastian stayed at the back, picking up every misspass we attempted and made the most of it. It was then Mou thought it's suicidal to attack them, it'll be better if we can just hold on to the scoreline. Hence Ozil's substitution. Mou gambled and lost the plot.

QUOTE(FLampard @ Apr 20 2012, 02:56 AM)
madrid defend not as steady as chelsea. dun flame me for this, but pepe and sergio ramos are too hot headed. they lose concentration easily...


Added on April 20, 2012, 2:58 am
di maria is the real engine of real madrid. many goals CR score he assist one...
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I agree that Chelsea is the better team in terms of defending but that was of course because they were use to play that way since the Ronaldinho era. Look at the key players in the 3 department. Drogba (striker), Lampard (Midfielder) and Terry (defender). They were all influential and experienced in the way they play. Those new players have someone to look up to or someone they can learn from about their tactics.

We on the other hand, have been playing various type of formations and gameplay before the current project and we just started to assemble the current squad 3 years ago, fire the 1st coach of the project and tweaked again after the arrival of Mourinho by introducing the likes of Ozil, Di Maria and Khedira as our first team players (key players).

These current crop Madrid players will have to face a team like Bayern and Barcelona in order to boost their confidence level, their maturity in terms of on pitch behavior and understanding between players, and not to forget the importance of team spirit. I am confident that they have learnt something in the game against Bayern the other day and I'm pretty pumped for El Clasico as we will see a better side of Madrid in El Clasico tomorrow.

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My uttermost respect for Antonio Di Natale, The Real World Hero who decided to take custody of the handicapped sister of Piermario Morosini~

From Di Natale - "I will be there to help his sister, not just for a day, but for her whole life. The girl needs us. This is for her and for Mario. I will ensure that the sister of Piermario is not abandoned. She has already lost everybody"

Piermario had lost both of his parents before the age of 18, and his disabled brother committed suicide shortly after their father's death in 2003.

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QUOTE(verx @ Apr 20 2012, 02:22 PM)
And another difference is we don't have a Drogba.
This

QUOTE(verx @ Apr 20 2012, 02:22 PM)
He's a player who I like and hate at the same time laugh.gif. In the final third he's an assist machine. But elsewhere on the pitch his passing and decision making is erratic. At least he makes up for it with his work rate.
Sums up my opinion about him including that smiley tongue.gif

QUOTE(verx @ Apr 20 2012, 02:22 PM)
And something I noticed, there was a lack of tracking back from our front 4 players. Xabi Alonso and Khedira were being overrun in midfield and even Di Maria wasn't getting behind the ball to help out. I dunno if it was a deliberate tactic cause if there's something that I like about Mourinho since he took over is that he got the likes of Ozil and even Ronaldo to track back. Maybe he wanted to conserve their energies in view that we have another 2 grueling matches coming up with little rest. But there's no excuse now. The next 2 games we have to go all out.
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First of all, I can see that sometimes Ozil, Higuain and even Benzema tried to track back and covered some angles or players but I rarely see Ronaldo does that and I find it frustrating.

Isn't Mou used to ask his forwards to drop back and help out the defense. Porto, Chelsea and Inter played the same way under him but why not with Madrid. Sigh. One of the small details that has a big impact in our gameplay.
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QUOTE(verx @ Apr 20 2012, 04:19 PM)
There were some games that we really defended as a unit with Ronaldo tracking back as well. And not surprisingly those were games that we absolutely dominated. That has all changed recently and I suspect it is a factor why our form has dropped as well. Whether is physical exhaustion or mental I have no idea but it is worrying.

For big games, Mou almost always asks his forwards to help out which was why I was surprised by the lack of it in the Bayern match. I dunno if whether he's finding it more difficult to put his ideas across because generally Madrid is a very different institution compared to the previous teams he's coached.
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That's why I say it's rare, and I really do love when Ronaldo came back to defend, he usually won't do anything but covering the zone or chasing their winger but, it's more than enough to make the opponent fall back or change to the other side.

I'm suspecting physical exhaustion is the main culprit here. The affect is so obvious that one can clearly see the decline in Alonso's performance and it's frustrating because he's the one that always been consistent. The only time we got the chance to rest them was the game against APOEL about a few weeks ago. But Mou stated that he won't disrespect our opponent and field his strongest team. I'm not saying that it's the only reason for our strings of bad performance in league. But when the next fixture is against a tough opponent, it's a no-brainer to rest the 1st team players taking into account that one goal would've killed the APOEL game.

Anyway, I've been hearing a lot about Kaka and Ozil will start in the Clasico.

———–Iker———-

Arbeloa–Pepe—Ramos—Marcelo

——-Khedira—–Alonso————-

——–Ozil——–Kaka—- Ronaldo—–

————-Benzema———–

I'm not really interested in discussing about the strategy since we are very familiar with our next opponent and also because no strategy or tactical tweak can make us perform better against them when the problem lies somewhere else. In the last 2 years our enemy is not only barca, but our own fear, the internal ghost that made us lose the game before even setting one foot on the pitch. We all saw how we overcome that in the last Clasico and how we bounced back, threatening Barca to a point where we were pushing them back at their own stadium looking for another goal, the goal that will eliminate them and our fear against them. We failed yet again in the score sheet but, it's a moral victory for us. I hope the players can realize that we're not far behind, eliminate the fear and we'll do just fine.

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post Apr 21 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(girugaga86 @ Apr 21 2012, 12:50 PM)
good luck and enjoy the el classico my fellow madridista.  smile.gif
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HalaMadrid and may the best team win~

QUOTE(nouruddines @ Apr 21 2012, 07:42 PM)
wosh,my heart keep on dup-dup-dap for this classico wacko.gif i hope we can win or at least draw at nou camp.
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Ok Rakan-rakan, bersedia untuk sakit jantung dalam 4 jam lagi

Muka2 fan yang akan tengok bola sebentar lagi
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Oh ya guys, if you interested in watching the EPL legends play tomorrow at Stadium Malawati Shah Alam, let me know. I have extra tickets, or you can refer here smile.gif
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Apr 21 2012, 09:56 PM)
lol
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steve mcmanaman won 2 UCL with us plus a few la liga but he is still considered as liverpool legend
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Shook hand with him last year. But, this year, I'm gonna bring my Real Madrid jersey for him to sign~ smile.gif
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Esto Es Madrid, Nou Camp.. Esto Es Madrid~

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