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post Feb 3 2012, 12:22 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi.!

I need your advise on guitar selection. I played guitar in a metalcore band, currently im using cheap les paul.

so im planning to buy Schecter guitar since i saw my fav band, The Devil Wears Prada, is using it, and using Ibanez Tube Screamer. Sound awesome. not just that, and i saw some local metalcore band also using schecter. the conclusion is i like the tone and the design is not bad and i like it very much.

suddenly, my drummer (before he joining my band, he played guitar and got many experiences) said that, "dont get schecter, it sound "clear", get ibanez prestige, sound "mid" that suitable for metalcore genre, then he gave me some example band that using it such as August Burns Red and Asking Alexandria. unfortunately im not into Ibanez type nor its design.

so here's the deal, compare to this two guitars, Schecter vs Ibanez, what is the differences? pickup? wood? anything and which one you would prefer?? and suggest me the right guitar for my band genre.

btw. im using Ibanez Tube Screamer pedal effect.

please advise.
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post Feb 3 2012, 01:19 PM

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ur comparison is too large.better to give specific models to compare.or at least how much budget
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post Feb 3 2012, 01:26 PM

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Brand name should be the last consideration to buy a guitar. So many factors goes into the sound you want like tone wood, pick ups and pedals/amp. Not to mention the tweaks you can make in between.

How about for starters, test both, and compare which one suits you. find that guitar you are satisfied with and work on from there.
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post Feb 3 2012, 01:39 PM

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sound is that you make it out to be,

schecters can not be clear also, i own a blackjack atx with a full mahogany body and that thing is muddy as hell. wherelse an ibanez with its basswood can sound "cleaner" and more mids given the right model.

choose what you think soudns best, personally i think ibanez sucks because i dont like the flat necks and the tone but its a nuteral sounding guitar which suits high gain lead playing.

then again it depends on your setup, any treble heavy guitar can lose its bite given a bass heavy amp.
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post Feb 3 2012, 02:11 PM

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schecters can not be clear also, i own a blackjack atx with a full mahogany body and that thing is muddy as hell.
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Used to gas for that ATX badly.. being actives I wouldnt thought of it being muddy though. but wdik...

Having owned a Schecter and some Ibanezes. the largest difference in my opinion would be the neck size. The Schecs are really quite big as opposite to the Ibanezes (generally).

I can see why your friend is recommending the Ibanez , it (i refer to the common basswood ones) probably gives a bassier/richer sound while under heavier gain. I dont see the similar specs Schecters losing out though, they have tonnes of them.


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QUOTE(rarap @ Feb 3 2012, 01:19 PM)
ur comparison is too large.better to give specific models to compare.or at least how much budget
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ok, how about schecter omen-6 / c1 vs ibanez RGA prestige?

my budget is +- 2k
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:26 PM

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What's your tuning? I'm guessing in the range between D Standard to C Standard? Schecter gets a plus point in this aspect where most of their necks having a 26.5" scale - slightly having more string tension - better riffing/strumming hard/PM-ing.

But if you're talking quality/playability/overall feel over brands/wood/whatnot, the RGA prestige is far more superior (to me of course). But those Prestige Ibanezes supposed to be 3k above, no? Unless you found a used one whistling.gif
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Feb 3 2012, 02:11 PM)
Used to gas for that ATX badly.. being actives I wouldnt thought of it being muddy though. but wdik...

Having owned a Schecter and some Ibanezes. the largest difference in my opinion would be the neck size. The Schecs are really quite big as opposite to the Ibanezes (generally).

I can see why your friend is recommending the Ibanez , it (i refer to the common basswood ones) probably gives a bassier/richer sound while under heavier gain. I dont see the similar specs Schecters losing out though, they have tonnes of them.
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it largely depends on your setup, i jump channels on my amp with the warm section overpowering the treble section. plus i use my vox for distortion, which is quite muddy as it is

by itself the ATX has sharp mids, (reason why i bought it), but its also a very bassy guitar (due to the mahogany) in which a lot of setups can make it sound muddy.
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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Feb 3 2012, 03:26 PM)
What's your tuning? I'm guessing in the range between D Standard to C Standard? Schecter gets a plus point in this aspect where most of their necks having a 26.5" scale - slightly having more string tension - better riffing/strumming hard/PM-ing.

But if you're talking quality/playability/overall feel over brands/wood/whatnot, the RGA prestige is far more superior (to me of course). But those Prestige Ibanezes supposed to be 3k above, no? Unless you found a used one  whistling.gif
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+1. I really prefer the Schecter's longer scale while downtuning on a 7 string.. But in terms of workmanship the Prestige are tops.
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post Feb 3 2012, 05:09 PM

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i have a schecter and its great/easier to play compared to my other guitar worth 3k and sounds heavier/good distortion and its only 1.5k. no doubt the more expensive schecters are even better
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QUOTE(shatehou @ Feb 3 2012, 05:09 PM)
i have a schecter and its great/easier to play compared to my other guitar worth 3k and sounds heavier/good distortion and its only 1.5k. no doubt the more expensive schecters are even better
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mind to tell what the schecter and the "other guitar" is?
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post Feb 3 2012, 07:53 PM

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schecter revenger and epiphone les paul custom lol <.<
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The revenger is a cool guitar!
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QUOTE(shatehou @ Feb 3 2012, 07:53 PM)
schecter revenger and epiphone les paul custom lol <.<
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i guess that could be a fake les paul custom...i mean its like its bad to generalise a guitar based on price without considering to compare with actually model


and to TS, if u wanna compare ibanez (thin neck) vs schecter (fat neck)..dun compare bout sound n tone, check out the comfortability of the neck 1st as these 2 brands is like duck vs chicken
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post Feb 4 2012, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Feb 3 2012, 10:36 PM)
i guess that could be a fake les paul custom...i mean its like its bad to generalise a guitar based on price without considering to compare with actually model
and to TS, if u wanna compare ibanez (thin neck) vs schecter (fat neck)..dun compare bout sound n tone, check out the comfortability of the neck 1st as these 2 brands is like duck vs chicken
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Lol fake? =.= i bought it at the guitar store 4 years ago which costs 3.8k back then.. in my opinion the les paul does sound better if ur playing blues stuff and easier to play aswell. but schecters to me are better for shred and metal


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QUOTE(quarantined @ Feb 3 2012, 10:35 PM)
The revenger is a cool guitar!
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yeah it is thumbup.gif and the tuning of the floyd rose is surprisingly good for a floyd special

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QUOTE(shatehou @ Feb 4 2012, 12:21 AM)
Lol fake? =.= i bought it at the guitar store 4 years ago which costs 3.8k back then.. in my opinion the les paul does sound better if ur playing blues stuff and easier to play aswell. but schecters to me are better for shred and metal


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yeah it is  thumbup.gif  and the tuning of the floyd rose is surprisingly good for a floyd special
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wow 3.8k is very very overpriced oh..in my opinion humbucker sounds nice only(coz i can't hear les paul tone most of the times) and for me lespaul has no playability in me...once more than 5th fret i feel totally uncomfortable...anyway nice guitar les paul custom
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QUOTE(shatehou @ Feb 4 2012, 12:21 AM)
Lol fake? =.= i bought it at the guitar store 4 years ago which costs 3.8k back then.. in my opinion the les paul does sound better if ur playing blues stuff and easier to play aswell. but schecters to me are better for shred and metal


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yeah it is  thumbup.gif  and the tuning of the floyd rose is surprisingly good for a floyd special
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did you send your LP for a setup?
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Feb 4 2012, 12:26 AM)
wow 3.8k is very very overpriced oh..in my opinion humbucker sounds nice only(coz i can't hear les paul tone most of the times) and for me lespaul has no playability in me...once more than 5th fret i feel totally uncomfortable...anyway nice guitar les paul custom
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back then kan the price is very high


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did you send your LP for a setup?
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yeah they setup the guitar before purchasing

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QUOTE(shatehou @ Feb 4 2012, 10:16 AM)
back then kan the price is very high


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yeah they setup the guitar before purchasing
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their setup sometimes gg wan and not suited to your style.

its a bit odd that a guitar can be hard to play after 5th fret, cause the neck dimensions will be the same.


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post Feb 4 2012, 03:42 PM

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these kind of things comes down to your own preference la bro..
u can't depend on your drummer fren for his opinion, like people said, u go test urself la.. sometimes what kind of guitar u use also, can simply tweak using effects~ so as long as it goes along the mainstream brand, it doesn't matter too much.. quite a minor issue compared to skill and settings.

but if i had to choose, id go with the schecter. not because of build quality or sound, but i think ibanez tooooo commonly used already.. plus i think ibanez models are too light (the rg or gio etc..heck even the jem also i hold once is just too light for good sustain..) pliz dun bash me guys, but im juz giving out my opinion to our fren here icon_rolleyes.gif

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