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 Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Carling Cup Final - 26 Feb 11.55pm

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post Feb 2 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Feb 2 2012, 09:44 AM)
yup. We now has passed the 8 banned game for Suarez. He will be back for next match. We trough some up and down, but for last 3 games we were superb. Indeed a moral boost for the team and Suarez.

It's time to unleash our 'new signing' again smile.gif
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Plus this ban period could also enable Suarez to rest since he got no break from continuously playing football
Hope he comes back sharper and more clinical in front of goal.


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QUOTE(heizad @ Feb 2 2012, 01:52 PM)
i think most of us already knew why he can't be a goal scoring machine there...torres is not the type of striker that wants to receive a pass while his back is facing the goal...
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Haha, Chelski bought Torres to mould him into targetman Drogba-like, where as Liverpool bought Carroll as a targetman but we fans initially had an assumption he is Torres-like.
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Feb 2 2012, 01:34 PM)
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this is a nice read:-

http://www.chelseadaft.org/2012/02/torres-...-its-going.html?
The link is for our former number 9. I am still a big fan and it highlights some of the problems from our own as well. They play Torres expecting him to be somebody else and we play Carroll the same way we play Torres thinking Carroll would emulate him. These 2 players in my opinion are played out of their depth but hey, it's just my opinion but it does explain the lack of goals coming from either of them no?

Watch the 81 goals that was scored for us. To me, if Bellamy can U-turn and be a player for LFC, why can't Torres? But that is wishful thinking  blush.gif

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Funny how in the article he talks about Torres lacking of service in a blue shirt. As I recall many a times in a red shirt, he was often played as the lone striker in the team and in many matches, lack of that so-called service from players around him. Torres, as I remember, was the kind of player who had the confidence to score no matter how badly he or his team was playing. The away match to Aston Villa in Rafa's final season was an example. We were playing horribly and Torres was running into defenders all night. At the closing stage of the match, after some poor passing from players of both sides, the ball magically fell to Torres' feet. He took the ball towards the keeper and finished it calmly.

It was that kind of confidence that has endeared Torres to us but was lost when he switched jerseys. It's true that in Chelsea he has been working hard and putting a double shift to win back fans and Chelsea as a team has been abysmal this season (Having Essien out is a blow, in addition to the drop in performance from their ageing players) but least they forget, in the 3 1/2 seasons he has been with us, he had played with some really sub-par players and manager around him.

Until he regain the confidence and that striker instinct, he's never going to justify the 50m price tag. He will probably come good when Chelsea returns to form, but it's still going to be far cry from the Torres in red shirt.
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QUOTE(etseleste @ Feb 2 2012, 02:07 PM)
Haha, Chelski bought Torres to mould him into targetman Drogba-like, where as Liverpool bought Carroll as a targetman but we fans initially had an assumption he is Torres-like.
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agree..lol
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 2 2012, 02:08 PM)
Funny how in the article he talks about Torres lacking of service in a blue shirt. As I recall many a times in a red shirt, he was often played as the lone striker in the team and in many matches, lack of that so-called service from players around him. Torres, as I remember, was the kind of player who had the confidence to score no matter how badly he or his team was playing. The away match to Aston Villa in Rafa's final season was an example. We were playing horribly and Torres was running into defenders all night. At the closing stage of the match, after some poor passing from players of both sides, the ball magically fell to Torres' feet. He took the ball towards the keeper and finished it calmly.

It was that kind of confidence that has endeared Torres to us but was lost when he switched jerseys. It's true that in Chelsea he has been working hard and putting a double shift to win back fans and Chelsea as a team has been abysmal this season (Having Essien out is a blow, in addition to the drop in performance from their ageing players) but least they forget, in the 3 1/2 seasons he has been with us, he had played with some really sub-par players and manager around him.

Until he regain the confidence and that striker instinct, he's never going to justify the 50m price tag. He will probably come good when Chelsea returns to form, but it's still  going to be far cry from the Torres in red shirt.
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This is true. We were extremely reliant upon Torres for goals at one point. The only other match winners we had then was Gerrard and in my opinion Benayoun. I don't think Torres benefited from excellent service during his time at Anfield. The only person he seemed to forge a good understanding with was Steven Gerrard and his richest vein of goalscoring form came when Gerrard was deployed right behind him. In Gerrard's absence, we passed him the ball and would hope for him to take on defenders all on his own and create something out of nothing. He exceeded my expectations of him that's for sure and then one day, he just shut off and looked to have lost interest. His body language was negative and he didn't show the same fire and passion he did before.

I personally have no solid conclusion as to why he's lost his form. All I know is that he should be at his peak now and if he doesn't recover soon, he'll go down the same road Robbie Fowler took. The latter was done before his time.
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Just checked our fixtures, lots of tough matches coming. In Premier League, we're facing Tottenham, Man Utd, Arsenal then Sunderland. While we still have FA Cup and Carling Cup final to play this month.

With Suarez coming back after taking some "break", Kuyt ended his goal drought, Carroll showing improvements & Stevie G being fit. Lucky we're having a full squad for these matches. (apart from Lucas)

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 2 2012, 02:26 PM)
This is true. We were extremely reliant upon Torres for goals at one point. The only other match winners we had then was Gerrard and in my opinion Benayoun. I don't think Torres benefited from excellent service during his time at Anfield. The only person he seemed to forge a good understanding with was Steven Gerrard and his richest vein of goalscoring form came when Gerrard was deployed right behind him. In Gerrard's absence, we passed him the ball and would hope for him to take on defenders all on his own and create something out of nothing. He exceeded my expectations of him that's for sure and then one day, he just shut off and looked to have lost interest. His body language was negative and he didn't show the same fire and passion he did before.

I personally have no solid conclusion as to why he's lost his form. All I know is that he should be at his peak now and if he doesn't recover soon, he'll go down the same road Robbie Fowler took. The latter was done before his time.
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Personally, I think he strived on the support the Liverpool fans gave him. When he was here, the Torres song was sung at every single game, even with him not playing. Despite all the criticism from the media in his final year, he was still treated like a king by us fans. He's not going to get the same treatment from the plastic flag fans.


Added on February 2, 2012, 3:23 pm
QUOTE(Yluxion @ Feb 2 2012, 02:54 PM)
Just checked our fixtures, lots of tough matches coming. In Premier League, we're facing Tottenham, Man Utd, Arsenal then Sunderland. While we still have FA Cup and Carling Cup final to play this month.
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If we can play at the level we showed against City, we can easily beat United, Arsenal and Sunderland. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Feb 2 2012, 02:54 PM)
Just checked our fixtures, lots of tough matches coming. In Premier League, we're facing Tottenham, Man Utd, Arsenal then Sunderland. While we still have FA Cup and Carling Cup final to play this month.

With Suarez coming back after taking some "break", Kuyt ended his goal drought, Carroll showing improvements & Stevie G being fit. Lucky we're having a full squad for these matches. (apart from Lucas)
Not worried about the top teams. But Sunderland seems to be revived under ONeil.
Potential banana.

Suarez seems to like his holidays in the winter as evidenced by his last season at Ajax! biggrin.gif
AND lets hope his season starts NOW!
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 2 2012, 03:35 PM)
Not worried about the top teams. But Sunderland seems to be revived under ONeil.
Potential banana.

Suarez seems to like his holidays in the winter as evidenced by his last season at Ajax!  biggrin.gif
AND lets hope his season starts NOW!
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We had Sunderland at home as our season opener. We were piss poor in that game.
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Added on February 2, 2012, 4:03 pm
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 2 2012, 04:00 PM)
We had Sunderland at home as our season opener. We were piss poor in that game.
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Yea... What an "awful" match. Haha!
We alsways get disappointed from the middle team like Sundeland, Stoke Bolton and etc. But we were strong when against stronger teams. lol

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just asking, why do some of u call chelsea fan as plastic?
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QUOTE(imin @ Feb 2 2012, 04:05 PM)
just asking, why do some of u call chelsea fan as plastic?
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I believe this term rose to prominence after we played them in the Champions League semi-finals back in 2005. When we visited Stamford Bridge, they had to give away plastic flags to their fans for free. Our fans on the other hand are known to make our own banners (we practice this even here in Malaysia e.g. Masters Football in Std Putra & Friendly game in Bukit Jalil proper.

The fact that they copied a Torres banner of ours after he had signed for them didn't help their cause as they failed to notice that the bottom of the visual was that of the Shankly Gates.

The general impression is therefore that a large majority of their fans are casual fans.

I've met some serious ones in Malaysia though like Aaron from the Chelsea thread.

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QUOTE(imin @ Feb 2 2012, 04:05 PM)
just asking, why do some of u call chelsea fan as plastic?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 2 2012, 04:14 PM)
I believe this term rose to prominence after we played them in the Champions League semi-finals back in 2005. When we visited Stamford Bridge, they had to give away plastic flags to their fans for free. Our fans on the other hand are known to make our own banners (we practice this even here in Malaysia e.g. Masters Football in Std Putra & Friendly game in Bukit Jalil proper.

The fact that they copied a Torres banner of ours after he had signed for them didn't help their cause as they failed to notice that the bottom of the visual was that of the Shankly Gates.

The general impression is therefore that a large majority of their fans are casual fans.

I've met some serious ones in Malaysia though like Aaron from the Chelsea thread.
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Just wonder, anyone know when Lucas can fit in pitch?


Added on February 2, 2012, 4:34 pmI saw last week news, he already back to training ground.

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QUOTE(Naskah @ Feb 2 2012, 03:12 PM)
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that kit should have the eternal flame beside the liver bird. never remove the flame. beside that, just nice and simple

though i'm not a fan of vneck.

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Feb 2 2012, 05:01 PM)
that kit should have the eternal flame beside the liver bird. never remove the flame. beside that, just nice and simple

though i'm not a fan of vneck.
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So, is this the official kit for next season?

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