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zstan
post Feb 27 2012, 05:53 PM

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The bokeh is messy. And very distracting.
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post Feb 27 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Feb 27 2012, 05:56 PM)
Just google about sel 50mm f1.8, it is sooooo over price !!! Around rm 1000 (Usd 299 )for a 50mm 1.8? Omg....

Canon 50mm 1.8 = rm300++
nikon 50mm 1.8= rm400++
Sony 50mm 1.8= rm 500++
then nex 50mm 1.8 = 1000????!!!!!

What are sony think about ? sweat.gif


Added on February 27, 2012, 5:57 pm
Its lens problem or i should set smaller f-value? icon_question.gif
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NEX 50mm is stabilised and has a better built. It's no brainier why it's more expensive.

QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 27 2012, 06:51 PM)
Hmnnn I just like the feeling of bokeness.. Well, I dunno what zstan mean by messy bokeh but I just luv it..unless somewan wth SEL50F1.8 can get better than the so called messy bokeh? In the 1st place, isn't bokeh suppose to be very messy on the background haha


Added on February 27, 2012, 6:54 pmWah. likedat your earlier macro works all using 5N? darn those really good macro... U need to share abit of your technique of maroing wth NEX 5n dy haha  rclxms.gif
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Haha. When u shoot more with expensive glass or see other people's pictures then u will understand what's creamy bokeh and messy bokeh.
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post Feb 28 2012, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Feb 27 2012, 11:48 PM)
Fuyoh, suddenly everybody so active... Was awfully quiet last weekend laugh.gif By the way, my IR remotes came in today. Anybody want one? I bought extras by accident (multi-tabbed browsing cool2.gif ), sell at cost of RM6. Discount RM1 if you work in Sony hehe... I can pass to you anytime in the office.
Most tele lens usually like that, big and long and maybe heavy especially old ones with metal-build, really need a tripod if zoomed out. I bidded (and still winning atm) for the 1st version by Kiron, gonna need to start exercising my hands and arms as it's the heaviest of all sweat.gif
NEX has a crop factor of 1.5x so a 50mm (FX/full-frame format) lens would equal to ~75mm on our cams, not sure whether the adapter will affect anything though. Can always try a extension tube if you want close-ups, cheap and can be used with majority of lenses unlike filters which are limited by its thread size, 49mm cannot install on 55mm and vice-versa unless add step-up/step-down ring.
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The adapter won't affect the crop factor. But with extension tubes you lose your ability to focus to infinity and the IQ may lose out to using Raynox.
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post Feb 28 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 28 2012, 12:10 PM)
So raynox better than Extension tube  hmm.gif .. Thinking of getting one. I luv macro but the result kenot even get close to fansoptian..  blush.gif
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Straight buy the 30mm macro la tongue.gif

Or tamron sp90. And an adapter.
Shoot more and u will get better.
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post Mar 1 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Mar 1 2012, 08:35 AM)
Check this out: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...40294630&page=1

I'm really considering to invest in LA-EA2 + SAL1650 to go with my 5N.

Anyone think that this is not a good idea please voice out before I burn a big hole in my wallet!  tongue.gif

Why this setup because I take a lot of pictures of my 2 year old kid, indoor, so I really need faster focusing and faster lens.
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the SAL 1650 is not sold as a separate lens yet currently.. it is bonded to an a77 body.. so if you somehow managed to get the lens on its own there will be no proper warranty from Sony Malaysia..
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post Mar 1 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Mar 1 2012, 09:11 AM)
That's the problem. Sigh. I'm thinking of ordering from B&H online. Still considering whether to take the risk or not.

Another option is to get the SAL2875, but its a SAM lens, don't know if there will be focusing sound during video. I also take quite a lot of videos with my 5n.
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the current 18-55 can't serve you well? or you need the constant f2.8?

QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 1 2012, 09:17 AM)
SAL1650 is probably just a bundle kit lens to A77 as what zstan said..Normally ppl dun go for kit lens wan wor...Furthermore not much diff from the 18-55 NEX kit lens kua??

Go-lah for the Bokehlicious 50mmF1.8 better kua esp u said wanna take your 2 yr old son, fast & faster focusing..NEX got this bokehlicious liao
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errrr... the a77 kit lens is of course much more better than the NEX kit lens and is a world of difference... especially with the constant f2.8 aperture and super sonic motor AF engine.. but price also triple than nex kit lens la..


QUOTE(whateva2k @ Mar 1 2012, 09:21 AM)
Yes LA-EA2 is huge, and it's even larger when SAL1650 is attached. Just look at the last picture from the dpreview forum link I posted earlier.

But that's the advantage of NEX system, I can go big or small depending on situation. Can't do that with A77.
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have you tried it on your hands before? or the LA-EA1 for that matter...i find it quite okay in my hands...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 1 2012, 10:14 AM)
Agreed that A77 kit lens for sure much better-lah price also better for sure but why so susah getting an almost similar 16-55 range and not others? Sumore for potrait, fast focus & etc..easier getting one without adaptor and dedicated potrait lens wor? well my 2sen haha
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 1 2012, 10:37 AM)
But if want that adapter, why not a SAL50mmF1,8? isn't this the one for potrait to catch the 2yr old boy? haha..I'm confused now..using a zoom lens for portrait?
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Well, with a bigger aperture your IQ can be much better and bigger apertures... different people have different preferences la..

with a zoom you can get more more flexibility where as with a dedicated prime lens you can get a much bigger aperture.. but bear in terms of focusing speed.. the 1650 with adapter will definitely be much faster than the 50mm...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 1 2012, 11:21 AM)
Yeah personal preferences.. I also like the flexibilty too for eg, I luv the bokehness of my recent purchased 50mmF1.4 antique minolta but that wan.wth 1.5X crop factor..everything auto zoom dy like the max of my 1855 kitlens haha.. Even taking a food also I need to go far-far till touching another customer at the back of me haha..

Anyway.. It will be a good selection esp those got the moos..to go for at least 3 lenses kua? - A flexi zoom , a good potrait (not the NEX pancake for sure haha), and a telephoto of atleast 18-200?
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18-200 is not a telezoom...it's an all rounder lens..

telezoom for NEX would be the 55-210..
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Mar 1 2012, 12:08 PM)
Actually, first of all i want the PDAF from LA-EA2, my kid is always moving around, find it a bit difficult to get a focus quick enough with the current CDAF to capture the moment.

Which means now I need an A-mount lens.

And since my kid is always moving around, having a constant f2.8 would be an advantage indoor with low light where I can choose a faster shutter speed to avoid blurry image from my kid's movement.

Also I would prefer SSM worrying that SAM will have focusing sound during video shooting. I also take a a lot of videos of my kid.
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well you could opt for the tamron 17-50... but it's a screw driven lens so maybe not suitable for video though..
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Mar 1 2012, 01:09 PM)
No, I have not try it myself. Good to hear another good feedback from you. Many review I've read said it doesn't feel as big as it looks online.


Added on March 1, 2012, 1:45 pm

Yes, I agree. I was considering to get the 35mm F1.8 first, buy worry that this lens will become redundant if I would to get SAL1650. Maybe I should just get this and forget about the fast zoom.
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Well the 35mm f1.8 SAM is not known for its fast AF speed. You might want to test both lenses out first on a DSLT to get the feel of it and see whether the lens suit your needs or not.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 2 2012, 07:43 AM)
Fail to update wth error msg. asking me to eject the camera but there is no eject icon. Damn..Will try again after fullt charged my battery. I think probably my battery level too low? 68% only?
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Yes. You need a fully charged battery.
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post Mar 3 2012, 09:53 AM

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Time to sell and buy a new 5N. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 7 2012, 08:59 AM)
Hmnn Wth teh raynox on the SP90 also having CA/fringing? That what I hate about the +10 filter..VERY obvious CA or yellowish fringing..Spoil the photo  sad.gif
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Nola...if you put Raynox and filter then you will have obvious fringing...

Raynox on its own is good...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 11 2012, 09:47 PM)
Weird giant Bunga Raya..yet to bloom & another weird pineapple haha.. Taken wth ancient minota lens

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QUOTE(anakrantau @ Mar 11 2012, 10:41 PM)
anyone could recommend any filter for nex5n? just to protect the les from dust ect and will not effect the pic taken.

and is it possible to captured this waterfall scene with nex5n + 16mm @ 55mm lens?
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because when I see the shutter to be slower, I can seem to adjust the apature@iso lower in order to decreese the light exposer..

p/s : real newbie with manual settings here smile.gif
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you need a ND filter..
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QUOTE(anakrantau @ Mar 12 2012, 06:18 PM)
u mean like shoot in the night? tongue.gif

@ zstan : ND Filter? ok noted. so this filter will help to reduce the light right?
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you could shoot in the morning..or evening... that's when the good light comes...

yeap..reduce the light reaching your sensor..then you can get a longer shutter speed without having to stop down too hard on your aperture which may cause diffraction...
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Actually all Sony cameras tend to underexpose to save details..
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post Mar 22 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(axii @ Mar 22 2012, 11:13 PM)
Wahlao... you want to compare Cheapo Hong Kong SLR Magic lens with a RM40,000 lens... slow clap for you bro, comment of the day!
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cheap a?

that lens also need at least 3k leh
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QUOTE(axii @ Mar 22 2012, 11:24 PM)
I've seen the Steve Huff review before. I'm sure all of us NEX poisoned people regularly visit his site, or used to.

"Will have a few test units once they're ready to sell to let you try out the differences smile.gif Let us know if you're keen yea!" From TG's FB page. It was when they posted Steve's comparison review (the one you just linked), made a few comments.


Added on March 22, 2012, 11:25 pm

That's what I mean... I was comparing the price relatively. The Noktor is only 10% of the Noctilux... which, relatively, is cheap. But still doesn't change the fact that the Noktor is just a redesigned CCTV lens...
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but doesnt mean the noctilux is 90% better as well. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lencent @ Mar 28 2012, 09:55 PM)
didnt know using MF lens for event taking is such a nightmare :S do you guys normally tripod with MF lens? even though i using the peaking mode, the subject is not sharp when it is highlighted in red :S i have tried to stop down my aperture but still the same. any idea why?
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try to use along with magnification for best results.

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