QUOTE(Loseeker @ Oct 9 2023, 07:27 PM)
If you want to take photo mostly for travel then u already has the best camera with you. Phone camera has very deep depth of field, so everything you take in your photo will be sharp in focus. The bigger camera can provide you with much shallower depth of field, so if you like those photos like outdoor portrait will blur background, then u can consider getting a dedicated camera. Another thing with a proper camera is that, the raw files has more latitude when it comes to editing. It is much easier to cover highlight and shadow from the raw files produced by camera with bigger sensor because they have more dynamic range.
One things that drive me crazy to no ends is that, beginners always think just getting a camera with kit lens can immediately see improvement of their photos from phone camera. But what makes the image is the lens, the camera is just the recorder of the image. Yet, they always set budget for camera body only. So, my question to you, if you want to buy a camera, are you ready to spend more for lenses. If not, you will be very disappointed if you get a camera with kit lens, because you won't see much improvement of photos taken with the kits lens against your phone camera.
On the other hand, many phone has build in software with AI that can help you take very nice photos with little to no editing at all. So, the thing you will spend to get a dedicated camera will not always be just money only. You need to spend time to learn and a lot of passion to continue despite failure to get the kind of photo that is better than your phone.
A lot of people not willing to learn or doesn't has such a strong passion for it. Therefore, most people buy camera, use it for few times, then let it sit on the shelf after the initially excitement subsided because phone always with you and lazy to make the efforts to bring an extra piece of gear out everytime. In the end, just sell the camera and go back to phone. I'm trying to save you and the others the hassle of going thru that cycle.
add on, actually some pros use phone only due to phone catching up the tech and if the photo only post on social, phone can do it lol.
QUOTE(nick_linz @ Oct 11 2023, 12:02 AM)
The problem is I haven't had a dedicated camera before so I'm not sure what are the upside potentials. I do enjoy taking and editing photos. Camera phones also hv raw file setting. Is that the same as the raw file taken by a dedicated camera?
just imagine RAW file = RAW beef, phone raw file maybe is a piece of raw beef, camera raw file is Wagyu RAW beef,
you editing = cooking skill, editing / cooking skill good, both beef can be good but maybe the pros can tell the different
both RAW file should have same range / freedom that let you adjust the colour and stuff...it still depends on your skill.haha
QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:22 PM)
Yea, im an idiot and naive. i thought the RF 35MM lens will suffice, i didnt know what genreĀ i like.Definitely is a costly mistake, the depreciation isĀ insane, almost 15% value. oh well, we learnt from mistakes.
Anyways, i thought of getting the A6600 or straight into A7iii instead?. both also almost 3 years camera.
any tech stuff all like that one, if you calculative like that better don't take this hobby haha because it hurts when you think of money.
better get a leica or even higher up brands so maybe not lose any value because leica = rolex stuff already... but again, it is hard to find buyer due to very expensive haha, niche market....
like 10 years ago i get nikon D800 full frame and hope can last long , price around 10k plus that time, now few months ago trade in with my expensive lens for new mirrorless system only worth 3k lol.... i change to mirrorless due to that camera too heavy to carry in trip, plus my phone catching up the tech for shooting low light without flash.
QUOTE(Loseeker @ Oct 12 2023, 03:27 PM)
Aiyoo, don't be so harsh on yourself, I won't call you an idiot, but lazy to do research la.Ā

Ā As regards your question, I think there is nothing wrong to go either A6600 or A7III, again you need to know what you are dealing here. 3 years in camera term is still very new. Even older camera can take fantastic photos. Video wise is a different story la.
1. A6600 = apsc camera, it has 1.5X crop factor (canon apsc is 1.6x crop factor). So, 35mm lens will give you field of view of a 53mm in full frame terms. But the advantages of apsc are that,they are smaller, the lenses are smaller and also cheaper than the full frame lenses. They are very wallet friendly that's why usually beginners start with apsc.
2. A7III = full frame, so there is no crop factor, a 35mm lens will give you 35mm field of view. So, you won't be confused as to the focal length of the lenses you want to use. A7III might be similar pricing to the A6600, but be warned that full frame lenses are usually more expensive for the similar field of view. The full frame advantages over apsc is that, it is slight better noise at high iso setting and it has about 1 stop more shallower depth of field, which mean it gives more background blur. But that is only beneficial for you if you like to take portraits of people outdoor.
If you want to start with a6600, you may also later get the A7iii when u think you are ready to jump into full frame. You can sell the a6600 to fund the jump or keep your a6600 for better reach. On the other hand, you may want to start with A7III right away, so that you won't need to lose money again when u transition from apsc to full frame. It all comes down to your wants and your budget. All the best with your selection.Ā

add on this one about the crop sensor on full frame lens, if the lens have soft edge performance -or- distoreded at the edge there, the cropped factor actually get rid of soft edge haha

- also in short, somethings need to experience first before you truly know what suits you or what you need in camera equipment... i used to be have 35mm f/1.8 lens on apsc camera, but ended i sold it and get 24-70mm f/2.8 because i want zoom, i sacrifies my fast focus for this, plus aperture no need too big because too shallow DOF makes things not tact sharp in frame also... those thing cannot edit back of you arleady got bokeh there
This post has been edited by Agito666: Oct 12 2023, 03:54 PM