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post Feb 14 2013, 02:52 PM

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helping my colleague ask

Type of camera: compact
Budget: around RM 2000 or below
Preferable brand : any, but i think maybe canon cybershot or maybe sony RX100? not sure price tho
Any specific models in mind? : Canon cybershot S110 or sony RX100?
Any specific features u want? : normal use, well i guess lowlight does have important role too for him.
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post Mar 7 2023, 11:22 AM

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asking for my near 70 yrs old dad camera.

was suggested him ZFC but he last time own sony nex3, his lens cap went missing, i don't think he ever change lens too, i don't know is he picky about camera mode or not or he just auto all the way.BUT his pixel 4a still working fine. (get him ZFC because he used to be own nikon FM2 but sold it out after 3 years, but again he actually shit in learning new stuff so maybe Zfc still not really good for him)

so then i was thinking get him a new compact camera so can just shoot and forget, easy for me, easy for him. no need scare about lens cap missing, light and easy.
mostly shoot trip photo, so basically low light performance is really the one need to know how well compact can do despite small sensor size.

so far asking around internet people suggest me:

Sony ZV-1 / ZV-1F
Sony RX 100
Ricoh GR3 (i think this one expensive and battery life seems short, not good for whole day trip photo)
Canon G5 or G7 i don't know what's the difference... rclxub.gif

i, myself suggest him
Zfc or Z50, or maybe even Z30 unsure.gif

budget not sure how much he wanted, maybe rm1-3k? depends on performance maybe can go up a bit
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post Mar 22 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Mar 11 2023, 11:01 AM)
Lens cap you can find replacement on shopee/lazada.

Also your dad ask one or you just think he needs one? He just wants to take photo or tinker with new gadget? Cause there is a difference between owning camera like RX100 and Fuji with bunch of dials on top. So far I only hear "I suggest" not "what he wants".
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yeah i think he also confused for now as in too many stuff to learn
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post Apr 5 2023, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Mar 22 2023, 06:31 PM)
Cannot help if don't know what is the criteria.

If unwilling to learn usually sign of not that interested in taking photos. Just use smartphone enough.

I see pipu complaining photo out of camera is so dull compare to phone camera but don't even bother to use lightroom and/or get prime lens at least. I see most uncle aunty not into photo crafting already satisfy with their smartphone shot of the sunset, lol.
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ended up he got sony a6000 for 1k myr, i would say a good deal , he happy i happy tongue.gif
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post Apr 19 2023, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Peace888 @ Apr 5 2023, 07:39 PM)
Hi, I'm planning to get into photography as a hobby and looking for some recommendations on starting up with the camera and suitable lenses.. I'm a complete beginner, so the easier the better. Ideally a camera that can take great photos out of the box with some preset in the photo editing software.

Usage would be to take professional looking ah moi pictures with good bokeh effects and some occasional landscape photography which would need something durable for my travels. Hoping to get something that's quite future proof, so I wouldn't need to upgrade again soon.

Type of camera/lens/accesories : mirrorless
Budget : RM15000 include kitlens
Your Location : Currently Ipoh
Preferable brand : Any?
Type of photography u want to do : Portrait with occasional landscape
Any specific models in mind? : Canon EOS R6?
Any specific features u want? : Can shoot very nice  professional looking photos. Don't really need large print.
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not a tech talk, but not sure you know this or not
f number (aperture) bigger does not means can get good bokeh effect, i mean it is creamy bokeh but what if you use too big aperture then the subject also blurred on the edge part together too? tongue.gif

hope you did research on this too haha. i discovered that when i use 35mm f/1.8 on figurine... all the figure's edge there got bokeh together because i open too wide.
model should not have that issue if stand far? not sure since i am not professional and i don't shoot human too lol.

you said you want to shoot model but what kind of model?
cat walk model that walk non stop? then you need AF speed and accuracy really good
model pose for you? then i think no need worry on camera spec, maybe colour side need good?
child model? those children run non stop? then DON'T get nikon z6 z7 because their AF is wonky on lock-on that time lol tongue.gif

landscape photographic normally requirement low only especially if you use tripod, unless you want print big big then get high megapixel camera like Z7 z9 those really 30mp or above one , or else full frame if really focus on night photography for low noise in low iso (eg: star shooting)

that what i read and research when i finding mirrorless for myself that time lah tongue.gif
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post Apr 20 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(nick_linz @ Apr 20 2023, 10:44 AM)
Thanks for your suggestions. What would be a reasonable budget to get something that fits my outdoor needs? I can probably stretch my budget to RM 6k.

My idea is to hike ard and then point and shoot. And at night take star photography from mountain top. I can also foresee myself riding a bike in the mountainous areas and then shoot landscape photos, even if it rains a little. So I guess I'll need it to be kinda sturdy too cos it's gonna be an outdoor adventure camera šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

I currently uses light room to edit my camera photos. So editing shouldn't br problem. The goal is to up my photography game and take more clear detailed photos.
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you need tripod too for stars photography , i duno you got it already or not haha hmm.gif
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post Apr 20 2023, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(nick_linz @ Apr 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Don't have. This will be my first camera.
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then allocate your budget too for tripod for star photography, is it time lapse or something?
then you really need a okay-ish steady tripod for your mountain terrain because strong wind blow also no need worry it will fall down tongue.gif

unfortunately i don't know about tripod , i got general knowledge only, you need google for that haha laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(nick_linz @ Apr 20 2023, 12:51 PM)
Thanks. But I don't expect to go for astrophotography when it rains as usually can't see stars on cloudy/rainy days. So I think no seal for astrophotography is good.

It's when I'm on the move such as hiking, exploring river etc might get exposed to rain or dust
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if you bring to sea side, taht one expose to salt in air / water particle with salt lagi teruk lmao

also BBQ places with greasy smoke, if you wear glasses then you know how annoying afterward because the grease coating form on lens and stick a lot with dust tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2023, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 4 2023, 10:38 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories :Ā  DSLR
Budget: None in mind for now
Your Location: Ā  KL
Preferable brand :Ā  Any
Type of photography u want to do :Ā  Mainly taking pictures in indoor room lighting
Any specific models in mind? :Ā  A7 MK4
Any specific features u want? :Ā  None, just basic photography

Hi all, I am looking for a camera to take close up pictures indoor mainly. My house doesnt have very good lighting (it is using those compact fluorescent light) so phones on camera struggle to take good pictures even if its the latest S23 ultra i.e. the picture tends to get very grainy when you zoom in. And the camera lens on phones nowadays is too big and taking close up shot causes alot of undesirable fringing and changing to ultrawide lens reduces the quality alot. So i was wondering if buying a DSLR can solve this problem and if yes what is the model that is just enough to suit my needs no need anything too fancy. Thanks in advanced
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i think better fix your lighting first than get a new camera equipment laugh.gif

pretty sure it is the lighting issue, if lighting bad, give you myr 10k camera also cannot use one tongue.gif

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post Jun 7 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Jun 6 2023, 11:56 PM)
Hi, thanks for the reply. So for my circumstance do you know what options do I have to fix my lighting issue?
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add more light?? go to light shop and get more light bulbs? avoid shooting in night?

give a visual picture of your issue actually helps a lot.
right now i have no idea how dark is your home and how is your failure shot of your phone. i don't have samsung phone before so i am no idea how does samsung camera AI works but S23 is new phone it should not be an issue. got ever try use other brand like borrow your friend or family member's ipad or google pixel phone and shoot ?


S23 is fairly new phone leh, if that phone AI cannot take a decent photo, means your house or your skill is the biggest problem there. sweat.gif more like you need to know how camera works first before shoot anything, so you can identify the issue, and overcome it instead spend money for DSLR for nothing.
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post Jul 19 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(GymBoi @ Jul 19 2023, 04:09 PM)
Hi all sifu, the last I've had a DSLR is probably 15 years ago or something. I last had a Nikon D40 or D80 I don't even remember. had some financial issue back then and sold everything. Haven't kept up with latest tech so hoping to get some advise here. I'm planning to buy a camera for event use. Normally indoors in a hall, sometimes outdoors. Will be shooting people/events and subject is roughly about 10-20 meters away. If point and shoot tech these days are already very good I can consider it as well as DSLR is heavy right?

Type of camera/lens/accesories :  Point n shoot / DSLR + lens / what is mirrorless???
Budget: Less than 10k
Your Location:   Selangor / Melaka
Preferable brand :  Don't matter
Type of photography u want to do :  Events / people / mostly indoors / sometimes outdoors.
Any specific models in mind? :  Don't matter
Any specific features u want? :  Would be great if can take videos too.
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nikon Z6ii with the 24-120 f/4S kit lens combo is aorund 9k plus, near 10k....
but the weight lighter a little only.

last time i planned to upgrade my D800+24-70 f/2.8G into Z6ii +24-70 f/2.8S , the weight is same lmao. lighter few grams only.
control wise on Z6 i think no need worry much the nikon UI maintain kinda same. just a lot of new tech stuff i need to relearn. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 12 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Oct 9 2023, 07:27 PM)
If you want to take photo mostly for travel then u already has the best camera with you. Phone camera has very deep depth of field, so everything you take in your photo will be sharp in focus. The bigger camera can provide you with much shallower depth of field, so if you like those photos like outdoor portrait will blur background, then u can consider getting a dedicated camera. Another thing with a proper camera is that, the raw files has more latitude when it comes to editing. It is much easier to cover highlight and shadow from the raw files produced by camera with bigger sensor because they have more dynamic range.

One things that drive me crazy to no ends is that, beginners always think just getting a camera with kit lens can immediately see improvement of their photos from phone camera. But what makes the image is the lens, the camera is just the recorder of the image. Yet, they always set budget for camera body only. So, my question to you, if you want to buy a camera, are you ready to spend more for lenses. If not, you will be very disappointed if you get a camera with kit lens, because you won't see much improvement of photos taken with the kits lens against your phone camera.

On the other hand, many phone has build in software with AI that can help you take very nice photos with little to no editing at all. So, the thing you will spend to get a dedicated camera will not always be just money only. You need to spend time to learn and a lot of passion to continue despite failure to get the kind of photo that is better than your phone.

A lot of people not willing to learn or doesn't has such a strong passion for it. Therefore, most people buy camera, use it for few times, then let it sit on the shelf after the initially excitement subsided because phone always with you and lazy to make the efforts to bring an extra piece of gear out everytime. In the end, just sell the camera and go back to phone. I'm trying to save you and the others the hassle of going thru that cycle.
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add on, actually some pros use phone only due to phone catching up the tech and if the photo only post on social, phone can do it lol.

QUOTE(nick_linz @ Oct 11 2023, 12:02 AM)
The problem is I haven't had a dedicated camera before so I'm not sure what are the upside potentials. I do enjoy taking and editing photos. Camera phones also hv raw file setting. Is that the same as the raw file taken by a dedicated camera?
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just imagine RAW file = RAW beef, phone raw file maybe is a piece of raw beef, camera raw file is Wagyu RAW beef,
you editing = cooking skill, editing / cooking skill good, both beef can be good but maybe the pros can tell the different
both RAW file should have same range / freedom that let you adjust the colour and stuff...it still depends on your skill.haha

QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:22 PM)
Yea, im an idiot and naive. i thought the RF 35MM lens will suffice, i didnt know what genreĀ  i like.Definitely is a costly mistake, the depreciation isĀ  insane, almost 15% value. oh well, we learnt from mistakes.

Anyways, i thought of getting the A6600 or straight into A7iii instead?. both also almost 3 years camera.
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any tech stuff all like that one, if you calculative like that better don't take this hobby haha because it hurts when you think of money.
better get a leica or even higher up brands so maybe not lose any value because leica = rolex stuff already... but again, it is hard to find buyer due to very expensive haha, niche market....
like 10 years ago i get nikon D800 full frame and hope can last long , price around 10k plus that time, now few months ago trade in with my expensive lens for new mirrorless system only worth 3k lol.... i change to mirrorless due to that camera too heavy to carry in trip, plus my phone catching up the tech for shooting low light without flash.

QUOTE(Loseeker @ Oct 12 2023, 03:27 PM)
Aiyoo, don't be so harsh on yourself, I won't call you an idiot, but lazy to do research la.Ā  tongue.gifĀ  As regards your question, I think there is nothing wrong to go either A6600 or A7III, again you need to know what you are dealing here. 3 years in camera term is still very new. Even older camera can take fantastic photos. Video wise is a different story la.

1. A6600 = apsc camera, it has 1.5X crop factor (canon apsc is 1.6x crop factor). So, 35mm lens will give you field of view of a 53mm in full frame terms. But the advantages of apsc are that,they are smaller, the lenses are smaller and also cheaper than the full frame lenses. They are very wallet friendly that's why usually beginners start with apsc.

2. A7III = full frame, so there is no crop factor, a 35mm lens will give you 35mm field of view. So, you won't be confused as to the focal length of the lenses you want to use. A7III might be similar pricing to the A6600, but be warned that full frame lenses are usually more expensive for the similar field of view. The full frame advantages over apsc is that, it is slight better noise at high iso setting and it has about 1 stop more shallower depth of field, which mean it gives more background blur. But that is only beneficial for you if you like to take portraits of people outdoor.
If you want to start with a6600, you may also later get the A7iii when u think you are ready to jump into full frame. You can sell the a6600 to fund the jump or keep your a6600 for better reach. On the other hand, you may want to start with A7III right away, so that you won't need to lose money again when u transition from apsc to full frame. It all comes down to your wants and your budget. All the best with your selection.Ā  thumbsup.gif
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add on this one about the crop sensor on full frame lens, if the lens have soft edge performance -or- distoreded at the edge there, the cropped factor actually get rid of soft edge haha tongue.gif





- also in short, somethings need to experience first before you truly know what suits you or what you need in camera equipment... i used to be have 35mm f/1.8 lens on apsc camera, but ended i sold it and get 24-70mm f/2.8 because i want zoom, i sacrifies my fast focus for this, plus aperture no need too big because too shallow DOF makes things not tact sharp in frame also... those thing cannot edit back of you arleady got bokeh there

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post Oct 12 2023, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 12 2023, 09:59 PM)
yea true.. even the camera shop guy told me the depreciation is actually insane. No difference if you use 3 weeks or 3 months.
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i only hobbist photog and only take out camera when i go oversea trip. my last camera SC actually is 5k lmao over 10 yearss tongue.gif

i cannot advise you anything since i also noob, but i can tell my choices for camera and hopes this can clear your thought... i formerly use nikon since study uni, so i get used with the UI and handling of nikon.
that time was using D70s... then D800 because the first FF camera and 36mp really can lasts really long for crop photo if you shoot trash in frame, until other camera catch up and your big MP camera actually consider blur and not sharp that time, now i downgrade technically to 24mp nikon z6ii with IBIS for my shaky hands, and better ISO performance. lens also downgrade since i buy package kit lens....

was using 24-70mm F/2.8G the one of the king lens all the time, now use 28-120mm f/4 S since i don't really need bokeh so much on TRIP PHOTOGHRAPHY.... landscape only need bokeh for what tongue.gif

phone use google pixel 5 because i like how the AI handle the colours better than other android phone, the downside is no better , sharper zoom but i don't need that , walk in front can zoom already.
samsung colour accuracy in low light is crap lol (i think, since i am outdated)

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post Oct 13 2023, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 13 2023, 02:47 PM)
Thanks for the advice, its like an endless rabbit hole.

I checked A6400 then top up a bit get A6600, then top up a bit  from A6600 get A6700.. endless rabbit hole lol.

so now, I'm thorn whether to straight jump to A6700 for future proofing.
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i roughly check the body, seems like built in stabilizer actually good... at least for me since i don't use flash to take photo, all use ISO for boost up brightness... so a steady hand is a must.
another improvement normally is ISO i guess... other aspect i not sure ... especially each the price differences hmm.gif
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post Oct 18 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 18 2023, 04:23 PM)
tq tq, you are too kind. people on Reddit say otherwise lol.
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huh what does they said, i also don't see anything bad, maybe crop a little so the center focus can take more spot there...maybe... laugh.gif
it still good shot i guess.
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QUOTE(throwawayacclmao @ Oct 19 2023, 12:35 AM)
I was recently considering to get a6400 to start learning..then i realized I have an old canon eos60d + 24-105mm lens lying around, gift from passed away relatives..
Been trying to learn the basic and so far its quite interesting.. I feel it produced nicer pic than my ip14 pro (but what do I know lol).

Is the lens I have good enough for travel photography? Mainly landscape/still humans portrait.
Or should I also consider EF 50mm 1.8 for easier portability?
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just use it first until you feel the current lens not enough then you buy, now telling you buy sure you maybe regret later like my dad told me get 70-300 lens for bird shooting in the end i stick back 24-70 only

also normally older tech camera lose to ISO performance only, phone camera normally lose to bokeh due to smaller sensor without AI bokeh.

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post Oct 23 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 23 2023, 10:23 AM)
Actually, i noticed my shooting skill is not up to the level to use ND/CPL filters. i went to shoot a few during high noon and noticed my creativity and composition still need a lot of work. I doubt any filters can help me with that.

So, i might put it into the wishlist first.

Anyways, after getting 18-50mm F2.8 sigma, what do you recommend for the next lens? I'm beginning to focus on one genre such as street photography and sports (mountain bike)
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i no use filter, UV all the way.... also i never shoot in that harsh moment XD but if trip and the place you will never visit there before, then you maybe need grab ND filter for better shoot or else like me...

PHOTOSHOP on RAW files haha tongue.gif
might able save picture a bit

you will need a viable zoom for sport for sure just i don't know which one, heard in nikon forum that you need long range zoom for F1 sepang stuff there, no need big aperture also can since that one you snap in noon.... mountain bike i really not sure what you need.

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post Oct 24 2023, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 24 2023, 12:59 AM)
When you say 24mm and 35mm meaning FF equiv yea?.I’m using crop so that will be 18mm and 24mm, correct ?
Hmm.. I’m guilty of 50mm ( 75mm crop) and 35mm (50mm crop).I used these two the most.

When you say photographic vision, you mean composition vision  ?
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all measurement of focal length normally means FF one lol... tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2023, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Jchew57 @ Oct 25 2023, 09:13 AM)
Yea, sometimes I get confused
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think of this way, if all focal length put the sensor 's length. that sounds not reasonable also

because some lens can be use on crop or full frame, so by putting all FF equivalent numbers, the user had to do math themselve is the better solution haha tongue.gif
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also like those think of buying for trip thing, get as compact as possible lol

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