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post Jan 11 2012, 05:42 PM, updated 14y ago

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PRESS RELEASE
Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn. Bhd.

3 January 2012

P1 TO BE READY FOR IPv6 IN 2012

PETALING JAYA - South East Asia’s leading 4G service provider Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd (“P1”) expects to be fully IPv6 ready by end of 2012 in bracing for the depletion of IPv4 Internet addresses. The company has already completed phase two of three phases of the compliance exercise.
Michael Lai, Chief Executive Officer of P1 said, “We are quickly approaching a major milestone in the life of the Internet. Malaysia is preparing for the use of IPv6 addresses in order to keep pace with the change. As a forward-looking organization, P1’s preparations on the compliance exercise began months back. Our backend systems are already fully IPv6 compliant. The third phase is on the last mile delivery and end user devices compliance.
Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) is designed to succeed Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4). Since 1981, IPv4 has been the publicly used version of the Internet Protocol and it is currently the foundation for most Internet communications. There are 4.3 billion numeric IPv4 addresses. IPv6 addresses expand to a multiple leap of more than 340 trillion to support our world's 7 billion population today.
IPv6 is needed to support the fast pace of Internet use growth and the explosion in the use of wireless products, quality services, inbuilt security features, enhanced mobility and the need for more IP addresses to facilitate its wider use.
The Number Resource Organization, a group representing the world's five regional Internet registries that dole out the numeric addresses has stated that the last five of eight blocks of IPv4 addresses were handed out to the registries earlier this year.
“The growth of the Internet has mandated a need for more addresses than are possible with IPv4,” said Lai. “It’s a case of basic binary math. There is not enough numbers with IPv4.”
IPv4 addresses are divided into four 8-bit chunks to make up an Internet address which is a 32-bit number. IPv6 addresses, in comparison, use four 32-bit chunks for a 128-bit number.
Lai continued, “In the very near future, the Internet will not just be used for communication from man to man. It will be man to machine and machine to machine. Just imagine 50 billion machines and 100 billion objects in the world will all require individual IP addresses.”
Lai further explained the impact of the transition on businesses and consumers. “If your business has an IPv4 connection to the Internet you won’t be able to access IPv6 websites and vice versa, unless there is a gateway device set up to handle this. Companies with websites or other Internet services must get new IPv6-based addresses for their servers and network connections to the outside world so they can handle IPv6 traffic. Consumers will eventually have to upgrade their digital subscriber lines (DSL) and cable modems because although the IPv4 network will still work, they'll miss out on Internet services available only over IPv6.”


About Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn. Bhd.

Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd ("P1"), a subsidiary of Green Packet Berhad with South Korea leading Operator, SK Telecom as second largest shareholder, is Malaysia's first and leading 4G telecommunications company. P1 4G represents the first large-scale commercial 4G WiMAX deployment in Southeast Asia, and the first large-scale deployment of an 802.16e 2.3GHz WiMAX network outside Korea. Although LTE is still in its infancy in Malaysia, P1 is already gearing up for 4G LTE transition and deployment through strong strategic partnerships with the world’s largest LTE proponents namely Qualcomm International, China Mobile Limited and being accepted into the elite Global TD-LTE Initiative (“GTI”) that encompasses more than half the world’s market potential. P1's goal is to bridge the digital divide by making access to the internet universal, ubiquitous and affordable for every Malaysian. P1 hopes to play a major part in realizing the nation's goal providing Broadband for All.
P1 is the winner of the Red Herring Asia's Most Innovative Private Technology Company in 2008 and is listed in the Malaysia Book of Records as Malaysia's first WiMAX telco (August 2008). In 2009, P1 bagged the MSC Malaysia APICTA Best of Start-Up Companies award. P1 is awarded the 2010 Most Promising Service Provider of the Year by the prestigious 2010 Frost & Sullivan Malaysia Telecoms Awards. P1's "Sudah Potong?" advertising campaign bagged gold at the highly coveted 2010 Malaysia Effie Awards. In 2011, P1 bags the Best Enterprise Brand of the year 2010 from Global Golden Brand Award. At the same time, P1 is awarded by Global Leadership Awards in Internet Category.

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That's fantastic. So I can expect more IPv6 users to visit lowyat.net, which is IPv6-enabled btw smile.gif
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i don't see any advantages.. ipv6 is just to allow more users into the internet (more IP allocation)... just like when TM or any mobile operator change the phone number by adding extra digits.. it doesn't improve the performance, cost or whatsoever!
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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 13 2012, 08:57 AM)
i don't see any advantages.. ipv6 is just to allow more users into the internet (more IP allocation)... just like when TM or any mobile operator change the phone number by adding extra digits.. it doesn't improve the performance, cost or whatsoever!
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You just mentioned the advantage... sweat.gif doh.gif
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You just mentioned the advantage...  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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still no advantage to end users...
There's no need to call media to claim this or that company is ipv6 ready and tell every rakyat about it.. rakyat don't get anything..
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any different for ipV6? speed more stable? or speed increasing?
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any different??so rm99 package increase the quota to 60GB??
or rm139 package increase till 120GB??
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Using IPv6 is only to the provider advantage but not the end users like us.
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Err... sorry I want to ask the noob question here...
Does using IPV6 will increase our speed to the internet? Or perhaps, improve our connection to the overseas connection? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 14 2012, 04:07 PM)
Err... sorry I want to ask the noob question here...
Does using IPV6 will increase our speed to the internet? Or perhaps, improve our connection to the overseas connection? hmm.gif
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Theoritically NO. But ISPs might isolate different pool of bandwidth between concentrators(access routers) that separates IPv4/IPv6 IP assignments. At current, there are not many IPv6 users yet because ISPs have not promote it well enough yet.This is if the ISP architecture permits and IPv4 and IPv6 have separate bandwidth access pool.

So if using IPv6, you're likely to be accessing a non congested route/server if you're getting better speeds.

Next comes the bad news.

If you're on IPv6, you're most likely be getting a permanent IP because there're plenty for the ISP to assign everyone with a unique identifier.
This might concern some with privacy because it's easier to track each individual rather than to hide many private IPs behind a single gateway IP.

It depends on how you plan to use it.

As for wKkaY, I know why he prefers all of you to use IPv6. It's easier for him to do his weeding job. tongue.gif
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Who wanna bet that P1 will only give you a /128?
If only they will give out a /56 at least...
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QUOTE(asellus @ Jan 14 2012, 11:34 PM)
Who wanna bet that P1 will only give you a /128?
If only they will give out a /56 at least...
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What is that to offer if they gave out /128?

Their total number of subscribers already exceeded what is available?

Most likely they'll follow APNIC assignment policy recommendation.

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5.1 Initial IPv6 block for APNIC members with existing IPv4 space

A member that has an IPv4 assignment is eligible for a /48 IPv6 address block.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/ipv6-address-policy

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you ipv4 kids probably will love sitting behind a private ipv4 address behind a large cgn tm box sharing one tiny public ipv4 blocks with thousands of other users.

and the moment you want a public address, tm won't either to sell to you or have to pay premium for it.

good luck.

i'm already on ipv6.


Added on January 15, 2012, 1:16 am
QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 15 2012, 01:07 AM)
Most likely they'll follow APNIC assignment policy recommendation.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/ipv6-address-policy

dey thambi,

that's assignment to ISPs not end customers.

end customers up to ISPs la to decide. either /48 or /56 or /64.

but be prepared to laugh at ISPs who will give smaller than /64s for routed segment.


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QUOTE(ihsan @ Jan 15 2012, 01:13 AM)
you ipv4 kids probably will love sitting behind a private ipv4 address behind a large cgn tm box sharing one tiny public ipv4 blocks with thousands of other users.

and the moment you want a public address, tm won't either to sell to you or have to pay premium for it.

good luck.

i'm already on ipv6.


Added on January 15, 2012, 1:16 am
dey thambi,

that's assignment to ISPs not end customers.

end customers up to ISPs la to decide. either /48 or /56 or /64.

but be prepared to laugh at ISPs who will give smaller than /64s for routed segment.
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Datuk, you never consider future needs is it?

Where's the talk about TM planning to join the mobile celco foray?
No plans for femtocell? So confident and proud of yer laughable network? tongue.gif
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what the hell are you talking about?
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QUOTE(ihsan @ Jan 15 2012, 01:25 AM)
what the hell are you talking about?
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You don't want to launch another TM Touch in future using the HSBB?
TM no plans to reenter celco market?

You sure your MVNOs not going to bang on your table protesting in future?

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you sure you are not confusing me with someone else?

wah lieu, looks like i'm not the only one you have been picking fights lately. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ihsan @ Jan 15 2012, 01:34 AM)
you sure you are not confusing me with someone else?

wah lieu, looks like i'm not the only one you have been picking fights lately. wink.gif
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Whose picking quarell? You give a good impression of TM brows.gif

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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 13 2012, 09:40 AM)
still no advantage to end users...
There's no need to call media to claim this or that company is ipv6 ready and tell every rakyat about it.. rakyat don't get anything..
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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 13 2012, 09:40 AM)
still no advantage to end users...
There's no need to call media to claim this or that company is ipv6 ready and tell every rakyat about it.. rakyat don't get anything..
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jan 14 2012, 02:57 PM)
Using IPv6 is only to the provider advantage but not the end users like us.
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You might not perceive the advantage while you still have a public IPv4 address, but this is getting scarce. Look at the problems faced by Maxis FTTH users as a preview laugh.gif

As for rakyat not getting anything, what do you mean by that? They're getting IPv6 access!
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 14 2012, 10:27 PM)
1. Theoritically NO. But ISPs might isolate different pool of bandwidth between concentrators(access routers) that separates IPv4/IPv6 IP assignments. At current, there are not many IPv6 users yet because ISPs have not promote it well enough yet. So if using IPv6, you're likely to be accessing a non congested route/server if you're getting better speeds.

2. If you're on IPv6, you're most likely be getting a permanent IP because there're plenty for the ISP to assign everyone with a unique identifier.
This might concern some with privacy because it's easier to track each individual rather than to hide many private IPs behind a single gateway IP.

It depends on how you plan to use it.

3. As for wKkaY, I know why he prefers all of you to use IPv6. It's easier for him to do his weeding job. tongue.gif
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1. That's a loooong line of logic with a lot of assumptions made. Applying Occam's Razor, the simpler way to think of it is that IPv6 and IPv4 are going to ride over the same layer-2/layer-1- it is this channel that determines congestion. Having said that, there *will* be a difference in routes between IPv4 and IPv6, since there's no practical way that all IPv4 BGP arrangements are going to be matched 1-1 isomorphically in IPv6. But it's not right to categorically assume that one will be less congested than the other.

2. At the ISP I subscribed to, they gave out dynamically assigned leases, citing operational reasons. I'll paraphrase what I can remember. Consider this - if you have multiple B-RASes serving the same subscriber footprint, as an upstream router how do you determine which B-RAS to forward a packet to? To do that, you'll need a route to each customer's static prefix - and for a provider the size of TM that's literally millions of routes, so I don't think they'll do this.

Alternatively, if each B-RAS were assigned its own /48 and gives out (dynamic) /64s in its own range, an upstream core router will only need to know one route per B-RAS.

3. laugh.gif

No, seriously, I promote IPv6 religionadoption mainly because it's *the* solution to IPv4 address exhaustion and all the consequences that brings.

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