Hi guys,

Just bought a kancil 1996 (A) 660cc. Stock car. Recently just spent RM1K to replaced wear and tear parts.
Should need at least RM2-3K to fully restore it as good as new. Not including repaint.

Was looking for thread where all Kancil owners hang around. Would like to learn more
about this car and mods to be done to this car.

660cc. Lowest hp car I have ever driven so far. Kinda a bit not use to it and keep getting tailed by people.
A bit stress at times when someone tailing u behind just cuz they think you are driving too slow.

In fact, my car just cant go as fast as I wanted it too. Is stock 660cc. So, I don't expect it to perform like a kelisa.

Anyway, would have future planning for L2s or L5s engine transplant. After restoring it back to good condition.
Lots to learn from you guys.

This post has been edited by 2JayZ: Mar 3 2014, 02:21 PM

Thanks bro. Engine is fine. Wear and tear parts would be like the brakes, suspension and tyres. The rest so far so good. Just thinking of L5s EF-RL conversion.
Saw a few in Mudah. Some quite high price some quite okay. Is more like PnP for L5s or L series engine except L6 for kancil right?

Have to fix important wear and tear parts since is my daily car now. Later crash. Still saving up for L5s.

Engine would cost say RM3K + labour would be around RM4K, upgrade brakes and adjustables would be at least RM2K give and take.
So total I need about RM7K IINM.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also btw, 660cc it doesnt have RPM, is it PnP if I were to replace it with 850cc meter? Thinking just buy a L5 Dashboard and repalced it totally.
Since 850cc meter cost is quite close in getting a Half Cut L5 dashboard.

This post has been edited by 2JayZ: Mar 3 2014, 04:15 PM

Oh, is not that costly. Just estimated it to be around there
Thanks bro. Will go and source around.

Hi bro, thanks for the info. Is JBJL 4 cylinder engine PnP as well? I read somewhere, JBJL 4 cylinder is more comfortable and smooth while if I wanna sprint, EFRL is good enough.
Also L2s the engine gets overheat?

Some say L5 is better since is a newer engine than the L2.

Btw guys, any idea where I can find a replacement for the roof interior on the kancil? I search around an saw a few selling bumbung ombak from Mira.
Not cheap though RM200- RM250.

Stock ones seems to be common that the roof interior keep coming off.

How much for a JBDET? Seldom see it on sale though. Is it Plug and Play? Engine Mounting same?
But what do you mean by ups and downs? What is the downside for this engine bro? Sorry if I ask too many questions.

Kinda new to kancil mods.

Remove speedcut how is it gonna affect your power steering?

Anyway, kancil is a small car, don't really think one would risk driving it up to 180km/h ma. Is more like a short sprint car.
Mod also I just want more pick up rather than the stock 660cc.

Other than the EF-RL u r using, any other mods such as adjustables and brake upgrades for the car to be more stable bro?
Yours is AT 4 speed or MT 5 speed?

I plan to get A/T. Just want a comfortable and powerful k-car haha! Not for race.

Oh. Didn't know that. 1st time heard of this. Cuz usually they say just buy and remove speed cut. But then in KL roads, can get to drive to 140km/h consider very good adi. Seldom have chance to hit 180km/h in KL/PJ. Unless Kesas or other wider highway.

Damn...u r poisoning bro!

I think for a small car, manual steering or power steering will be fine. But didn't know that it has such function that the power steering will feel heavy on high speed.
Unlike modern normal sedan like Vios and Myvi, Power steering wont get heavier.

but parts wise JBJL will have more than JBDET since there are not much R&D for this engine.

Brakes you are using the one from halfcut? Or upgrade from stock brakes? Tyre wise, what size are u using? should be 14" since your car power is that much?
But if it is kelisa stock 165/55/14 tyre size, then performance tyre is very few choices. Even Michelin PP2 already discontinued. Can't find any performance tyre like PP2.

7Krpm, can seriously imagine how far you can pull away from most cars...

Exhaust need to be upgraded to match the power as well right?

Really wish can see your ride haha! Can have K-Car TT.

Means engine alone JBDET 4K+- if include adjustables and brakes and tyres, would be RM6K+- then? Yours even have e-manage.
Ya man, taking good care of the car is my priority too. Especially mod to such powerful engine, if don't take care it wont be good
for us also. Saw one for sale in Mudah JBDET. RM2300. Cheaper than JBJL? RM2800

How much hp your have on wheel? Dyno before? Enough to smoke Myvi 1.3 and 1.5L?

But the thing is finding a Mira L5 is very rare. Mostly converted ones. Even if we can find one, it would be cover with rusty parts.
Though is cheaper than conversion. But is fun to build a car up actually :biggrin: Defeats the fun if were to buy the original one.

Ya around RM2300 - RM2500. Labour still around RM500-RM800. Ya including the suspension, tyres and brakes should be around there RM7.5K and yet you have emanage to add on.

So you just buy the other parts to fit in? Now RM2300 - RM2500 is half cut..not engine alone. Guess is cheaper now.

Wow...a sleeper car. Inside L5, outside Kancil Saw one Classic brand bucket seat in a kancil not bad. RM700.
Roof as in Sunroof? L512 is the bodykit I wanted. The one dosnx posted.

Nice bro. RM3K for a kancil is dirt cheap. I bought for RM5K. Owner use to drive grand children to school only. 70K mileage.
Yours must be manual?

Grats on your L5 conversion bro. L5 that you got is which engine code?

You guys are poisoning me even more haha!

Nice rims indeed. How much you want to sell?

L5 bodypart will kena? Damn...my dreams gone....
Say if bodypart kena block, what will happen? Must go JPJ inspection ka?
No wonder g3n0c|d3 only convert interior L5. Exterior stock.

This bodykit will kena?

Actually don't understand why is it wrong to do the bodykits. Kancil Geran still a geran. Just cosmetics ma.
If kena what is the consequences? Bayar kopi or need to send for inspection?

RM700 really costly man.

Ya, not easy. I still using stock ones.

Shit, didn't know about this. If I know I would have hunt for one.
But hell with it, I won't let jpj destroy my wish. Just don't drive it at night or at red light areas that full with JPJs block.

Make life difficult for car enthusiasts la...

What to tell them bro?
I fell in love with that bodykit. No choice bro

Me: Tell them, is ori Mira, tak bawa geran?
JPJ: Buka bonnet tengok
Me: tak dapat buka, kunci bonnet lupa bawa

Ya, after engine transplant as long ori mounting not modified sure can pass puspakom right?

Btw bro, do you have problems like mine?

After sending the car for full service, found out there is a problem with the wiring. Suspected.

1) Problem is during daytime, whenever I step on the brake, my small bulbs in the headlamp, will be turned on as well.
Let go brakes, it will switched off as well. Is like acting like brake light. All brake lights working.

2) this is another weird problem. When I switch on my headlamp, all my brake lights including 3rd brake light will be switched on.
Therefore, on the road is kinda dangerous where ppl behind me will be cursing me on why my brake lights on all the time.
Is like I'm driving by stepping on both gas and brake pedals.

3) mech try to remove the fuse to the brake lights when the headlights were on. But then after pulling out the fuse,
my brake lights are all still switched on as well.

Anyone facing same problem as me? Mech find it weird as well. Even accessories shop find it weird.

This post has been edited by 2JayZ: Mar 5 2014, 11:28 AM

Kepong & PJ area. Thought of trying my friend's accessories shop 1st. If can't settle then will do it at
K-car specialist in Shah alam.

Okay, will do bro. But then these jpj fellows. Always tangkap us, but when you open their car hood, their mods
are even more illegal than us.

You can check with sparepart shops to compare prices or you can just call and ask your trusted workshop directly.

Consider cheap, but not as cheap as my regular spareparts shop hehe!

Just bought. Can't sell

Nice mods.