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 LYN Kancil's Owner Club a.k.a SLK V3, Our little Kancil got V3 already :p

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post Mar 4 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:09 AM)
for now the fastest engine that available for 3 piston is EFDET taken from daihatsu move.

im using JBDET from daihatsu move too... its a 4 piston and slightly newer engine than JBJL.

reliability wise, well it has ups and downs but it never failed me when i need the power to overtake or to sprint.

the fastest ive gone with this engine is 160km/j.
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JBDET drool.gif . mesti power ni. manual ke? boleh dapat eh? how to differentiate between jbjl and det eh? looks alike..
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:09 AM)
for now the fastest engine that available for 3 piston is EFDET taken from daihatsu move.

im using JBDET from daihatsu move too... its a 4 piston and slightly newer engine than JBJL.

reliability wise, well it has ups and downs but it never failed me when i need the power to overtake or to sprint.

the fastest ive gone with this engine is 160km/j.
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How much for a JBDET? Seldom see it on sale though. Is it Plug and Play? Engine Mounting same?
But what do you mean by ups and downs? What is the downside for this engine bro? Sorry if I ask too many questions.

Kinda new to kancil mods.

QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 10:28 AM)
kalau buang nanti power stereng kacau. sad.gif
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Remove speedcut how is it gonna affect your power steering? blink.gif

Anyway, kancil is a small car, don't really think one would risk driving it up to 180km/h ma. Is more like a short sprint car.
Mod also I just want more pick up rather than the stock 660cc.
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 08:45 AM)
Oh, is not that costly. Just estimated it to be around there  laugh.gif
Thanks bro. Will go and source around.  thumbup.gif
Hi bro, thanks for the info. Is JBJL 4 cylinder engine PnP as well? I read somewhere, JBJL 4 cylinder is more comfortable and smooth while if I wanna sprint, EFRL is good enough.
Also L2s the engine gets overheat?

Some say L5 is better since is a newer engine than the L2.

Btw guys, any idea where I can find a replacement for the roof interior on the kancil? I search around an saw a few selling bumbung ombak from Mira.
Not cheap though RM200- RM250.

Stock ones seems to be common that the roof interior keep coming off.
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very smoooooth. last night i was cruising best2..then i looked at the meter, its already going 130kmh lol thumbup.gif . yep pnp!
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(SupremeLahh7 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM)
very smoooooth. last night i was cruising best2..then i looked at the meter, its already going 130kmh lol  thumbup.gif . yep pnp!
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Other than the EF-RL u r using, any other mods such as adjustables and brake upgrades for the car to be more stable bro?
Yours is AT 4 speed or MT 5 speed?

I plan to get A/T. Just want a comfortable and powerful k-car haha! Not for race. laugh.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM)
How much for a JBDET? Seldom see it on sale though. Is it Plug and Play? Engine Mounting same?
But what do you mean by ups and downs? What is the downside for this engine bro? Sorry if I ask too many questions.

Kinda new to kancil mods.
Remove speedcut how is it gonna affect your power steering?  blink.gif

Anyway, kancil is a small car, don't really think one would risk driving it up to 180km/h ma. Is more like a short sprint car.
Mod also I just want more pick up rather than the stock 660cc.
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its electric power stereng, and use ECU for the power stereng.
the ECU cannot detect speed over 140kmh.
later the power stereng akan jadi kadang2 berat, kadang2 ringan.
thats common problem for electric power stereng user.
recomendation is to change the power stereng to oil type.
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(SupremeLahh7 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:31 AM)
JBDET  drool.gif . mesti power ni. manual ke? boleh dapat eh? how to differentiate between jbjl and det eh? looks alike..
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auto.... boleh dapat JBDET dari daihatsu copen tapi mmg susah... ala kalau nak sedap pakai jek balik manual transmission kancil... dapat 850 punya transmission pon dah cukup lazat dah....

QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 10:33 AM)
How much for a JBDET? Seldom see it on sale though. Is it Plug and Play? Engine Mounting same?
But what do you mean by ups and downs? What is the downside for this engine bro? Sorry if I ask too many questions.

Kinda new to kancil mods.
Remove speedcut how is it gonna affect your power steering?  blink.gif

Anyway, kancil is a small car, don't really think one would risk driving it up to 180km/h ma. Is more like a short sprint car.
Mod also I just want more pick up rather than the stock 660cc.
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JBDET is plug and play... like wise its more or less like JBJL but its improved version of JBJL... there are alot selling right now... sadly there are not much R&D about this engine....

power steering wise i dont think i will effect much... because when u going 120km/j it will start to feel heavy... but im using manual steering.... so i dont mind...

suspensions, tires and brakes are important if u wanna go fast.... so invest that too if u wanna go hard and fast.

yes u are right... they are good for pickups.... im using L5 LSD manual transmission and its good for pickups... long distant u need to really push the engine....

my regular rpm is around 5k-6k rpm.... sometimes can go to 7k if i really need for that freaking speed...
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 10:42 AM)
its electric power stereng, and use ECU for the power stereng.
the ECU cannot detect speed over 140kmh.
later the power stereng akan jadi kadang2 berat, kadang2 ringan.
thats common problem for electric power stereng user.
recomendation is to change the power stereng to oil type.
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Oh. Didn't know that. 1st time heard of this. Cuz usually they say just buy and remove speed cut. But then in KL roads, can get to drive to 140km/h consider very good adi. Seldom have chance to hit 180km/h in KL/PJ. Unless Kesas or other wider highway.

QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:46 AM)
auto.... boleh dapat JBDET dari daihatsu copen tapi mmg susah... ala kalau nak sedap pakai jek balik manual transmission kancil... dapat 850 punya transmission pon dah cukup lazat dah....
JBDET is plug and play... like wise its more or less like JBJL but its improved version of JBJL... there are alot selling right now... sadly there are not much R&D about this engine....

power steering wise i dont think i will effect much... because when u going 120km/j it will start to feel heavy... but im using manual steering.... so i dont mind...

suspensions, tires and brakes are important if u wanna go fast.... so invest that too if u wanna go hard and fast.

yes u are right... they are good for pickups.... im using L5 LSD manual transmission and its good for pickups... long distant u need to really push the engine....

my regular rpm is around 5k-6k rpm.... sometimes can go to 7k if i really need for that freaking speed...
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Damn...u r poisoning bro! wub.gif

I think for a small car, manual steering or power steering will be fine. But didn't know that it has such function that the power steering will feel heavy on high speed.
Unlike modern normal sedan like Vios and Myvi, Power steering wont get heavier.

but parts wise JBJL will have more than JBDET since there are not much R&D for this engine.

Brakes you are using the one from halfcut? Or upgrade from stock brakes? Tyre wise, what size are u using? should be 14" since your car power is that much?
But if it is kelisa stock 165/55/14 tyre size, then performance tyre is very few choices. Even Michelin PP2 already discontinued. Can't find any performance tyre like PP2.

7Krpm, blink.gif can seriously imagine how far you can pull away from most cars...

Exhaust need to be upgraded to match the power as well right?

Really wish can see your ride haha! Can have K-Car TT.
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post Mar 4 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 10:54 AM)
Oh. Didn't know that. 1st time heard of this. Cuz usually they say just buy and remove speed cut. But then in KL roads, can get to drive to 140km/h consider very good adi. Seldom have chance to hit 180km/h in KL/PJ. Unless Kesas or other wider highway.
Damn...u r poisoning bro!  wub.gif

I think for a small car, manual steering or power steering will be fine. But didn't know that it has such function that the power steering will feel heavy on high speed.
Unlike modern normal sedan like Vios and Myvi, Power steering wont get heavier.

but parts wise JBJL will have more than JBDET since there are not much R&D for this engine.

Brakes you are using the one from halfcut? Or upgrade from stock brakes? Tyre wise, what size are u using? should be 14" since your car power is that much?
But if it is kelisa stock 165/55/14 tyre size, then performance tyre is very few choices. Even Michelin PP2 already discontinued. Can't find any performance tyre like PP2.

7Krpm,  blink.gif  can seriously imagine how far you can pull away from most cars...

Exhaust need to be upgraded to match the power as well right?

Really wish can see your ride haha! Can have K-Car TT.
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im using L5 double layer brakes with sumitomo (i hope i got it right lol) brake pads. i bought it separately because daihatsu move parts cannot be fitted to kancil

im using 13" standard L5 sport rims... i dont like going bigger than 14"... just my preferences....

exhaust is 2.3" from the intake to 1st clipping 2nd clipping is 2.5" with Jasma muffler... sound wise... not that noisy but will roar after u hit the pedal and speed off....

i took my engine care seriously so i fitted with emanage and wideband tune it eventhou some of the foremen laugh at me saying no need....

maintenance wise, using torco engine oil... suitable for high revving, torco transmission oil, daihatsu original oil filter but recently trying the HKS hybrid oil filter..... well not much on the performance thou... but its still bling2 effect... hahahaha

thats why im not afraid of revving the engine kaw2.... brows.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 11:10 AM)
im using L5 double layer brakes with sumitomo (i hope i got it right lol) brake pads. i bought it separately because daihatsu move parts cannot be fitted to kancil

im using 13" standard L5 sport rims... i dont like going bigger than 14"... just my preferences....

exhaust is 2.3" from the intake to 1st clipping 2nd clipping is 2.5" with Jasma muffler... sound wise... not that noisy but will roar after u hit the pedal and speed off....

i took my engine care seriously so i fitted with emanage and wideband tune it eventhou some of the foremen laugh at me saying no need....

maintenance wise, using torco engine oil... suitable for high revving, torco transmission oil, daihatsu original oil filter but recently trying the HKS hybrid oil filter..... well not much on the performance thou... but its still bling2 effect... hahahaha

thats why im not afraid of revving the engine kaw2.... brows.gif
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Means engine alone JBDET 4K+- if include adjustables and brakes and tyres, would be RM6K+- then? Yours even have e-manage.
Ya man, taking good care of the car is my priority too. Especially mod to such powerful engine, if don't take care it wont be good
for us also. Saw one for sale in Mudah JBDET. RM2300. Cheaper than JBJL? RM2800 blink.gif

How much hp your have on wheel? Dyno before? Enough to smoke Myvi 1.3 and 1.5L? brows.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 11:31 AM

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i think you can consider buy complete CKD L5.

youwill get:
engine + gearbox
wiring
brake front and back
exhaust
seat
bodypart:
[headlight, backlight, spotlight, bumper, fender, bonet depan, bonet belakang, door, side mirror, ]
dashboard
stereng + sub ++complete
carpet + big carpet
seatbelt
pillar
absorber

its cheaper than buying part by part

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post Mar 4 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 11:31 AM)
i think you can consider buy complete CKD L5.

youwill get:
engine + gearbox
wiring
brake front and back
exhaust
seat
bodypart:
[headlight, backlight, spotlight, bumper, fender, bonet depan, bonet belakang, door, side mirror, ]
dashboard
stereng + sub ++complete
carpet + big carpet
seatbelt
pillar
absorber

its cheaper than buying part by part
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thumbup.gif agree for this option..u will satisfy if buy ckd 1 coz get everything..if dont want change outside look, just sold the bodypart u dont want use..
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post Mar 4 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 11:22 AM)
Means engine alone JBDET 4K+- if include adjustables and brakes and tyres, would be RM6K+- then? Yours even have e-manage.
Ya man, taking good care of the car is my priority too. Especially mod to such powerful engine, if don't take care it wont be good
for us also. Saw one for sale in Mudah JBDET. RM2300. Cheaper than JBJL?  RM2800 blink.gif

How much hp your have on wheel? Dyno before? Enough to smoke Myvi 1.3 and 1.5L? brows.gif
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i dunnue how much HP it got, but i can cucuk2 angin la with them abit... brows.gif

i bought the engine for rm2k (nowdays u can find much cheaper)+rm600 installation. i put more than i need to since been poison to use that... this and that.... for the total of around 7.5k

but i did recalculated back and if i just do the engine conversion i would spend around rm4k+- with all the correct stuff included.

QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 11:31 AM)
i think you can consider buy complete CKD L5.

youwill get:
engine + gearbox
wiring
brake front and back
exhaust
seat
bodypart:
[headlight, backlight, spotlight, bumper, fender, bonet depan, bonet belakang, door, side mirror, ]
dashboard
stereng + sub ++complete
carpet + big carpet
seatbelt
pillar
absorber

its cheaper than buying part by part
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i couldnt agree more if u want to save some money...

but on the other side im considered lucky because i only bought the engine+wiring on a halfcut move.... the foremen sold the other parts so he only charge me with the engine.... heee...

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post Mar 4 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 11:31 AM)
i think you can consider buy complete CKD L5.

youwill get:
engine + gearbox
wiring
brake front and back
exhaust
seat
bodypart:
[headlight, backlight, spotlight, bumper, fender, bonet depan, bonet belakang, door, side mirror, ]
dashboard
stereng + sub ++complete
carpet + big carpet
seatbelt
pillar
absorber

its cheaper than buying part by part
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But the thing is finding a Mira L5 is very rare. Mostly converted ones. Even if we can find one, it would be cover with rusty parts.
Though is cheaper than conversion. But is fun to build a car up actually :biggrin: Defeats the fun if were to buy the original one. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 04:19 PM)
i dunnue how much HP it got, but i can cucuk2 angin la with them abit... brows.gif

i bought the engine for rm2k (nowdays u can find much cheaper)+rm600 installation. i put more than i need to since been poison to use that... this and that.... for the total of around 7.5k

but i did recalculated back and if i just do the engine conversion i would spend around rm4k+- with all the correct stuff included.
i couldnt agree more if u want to save some money...

but on the other side im considered lucky because i only bought the engine+wiring on a halfcut move.... the foremen sold the other parts so he only charge me with the engine.... heee...
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Ya around RM2300 - RM2500. Labour still around RM500-RM800. Ya including the suspension, tyres and brakes should be around there RM7.5K and yet you have emanage to add on.

So you just buy the other parts to fit in? Now RM2300 - RM2500 is half cut..not engine alone. Guess is cheaper now.
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post Mar 4 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 04:55 PM)
But the thing is finding a Mira L5 is very rare. Mostly converted ones. Even if we can find one, it would be cover with rusty parts.
Though is cheaper than conversion. But is fun to build a car up actually :biggrin: Defeats the fun if were to buy the original one.  icon_idea.gif
Ya around RM2300 - RM2500. Labour still around RM500-RM800. Ya including the suspension, tyres and brakes should be around there RM7.5K and yet you have emanage to add on.

So you just buy the other parts to fit in? Now RM2300 - RM2500 is half cut..not engine alone. Guess is cheaper now.
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7.5k including the dashboard and the L2s modifed meter, the L5 semi bucket seat in pristine condition, the pillars, the door trim, the power windows, the sport rim+tyres.... etc...

to make the story short....
my interior is almost 90% L5 interior minus the roof....

but the exterior is still a 2001 kancil...
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post Mar 4 2014, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 04:19 PM)
i dunnue how much HP it got, but i can cucuk2 angin la with them abit... brows.gif

i bought the engine for rm2k (nowdays u can find much cheaper)+rm600 installation. i put more than i need to since been poison to use that... this and that.... for the total of around 7.5k

but i did recalculated back and if i just do the engine conversion i would spend around rm4k+- with all the correct stuff included.
i couldnt agree more if u want to save some money...

but on the other side im considered lucky because i only bought the engine+wiring on a halfcut move.... the foremen sold the other parts so he only charge me with the engine.... heee...
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i bought the CKD L512 for RM4500.
i sold the L5 seat redTag for RM700
sold bodypart for RM 1200
so i got everything else for RM 2600 only.
but i regret selling the redtag seat.
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QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 05:21 PM)
i bought the CKD L512 for RM4500.
i sold the L5 seat redTag for RM700
sold bodypart for RM 1200
so i got everything else for RM 2600 only.
but i regret selling the redtag seat.
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rare item....

anyways my foremen bought the move halfcut for rm4k....

i think he made a lot of money there alone.... but hey i got a very nice purring engine.... satisfy customer....
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my car when i bought. RM3000
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the L512 halfcut
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post Mar 4 2014, 05:40 PM

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engine transplant
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Mar 4 2014, 05:06 PM)
7.5k including the dashboard and the L2s modifed meter, the L5 semi bucket seat in pristine condition, the pillars, the door trim, the power windows, the sport rim+tyres.... etc...

to make the story short....
my interior is almost 90% L5 interior minus the roof....

but the exterior is still a 2001 kancil...
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Wow...a sleeper car. Inside L5, outside Kancil thumbup.gif Saw one Classic brand bucket seat in a kancil not bad. RM700.
Roof as in Sunroof? L512 is the bodykit I wanted. The one dosnx posted.

QUOTE(dosnx @ Mar 4 2014, 05:38 PM)
my car when i bought. RM3000
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change bonet and fender
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the L512 halfcut
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Nice bro. RM3K for a kancil is dirt cheap. I bought for RM5K. Owner use to drive grand children to school only. 70K mileage.
Yours must be manual?

Grats on your L5 conversion bro. L5 that you got is which engine code?

You guys are poisoning me even more haha!
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Mar 4 2014, 05:42 PM)
Wow...a sleeper car. Inside L5, outside Kancil  thumbup.gif Saw one Classic brand bucket seat in a kancil not bad. RM700.
Roof as in Sunroof? L512 is the bodykit I wanted. The one dosnx posted.
Nice bro. RM3K for a kancil is dirt cheap. I bought for RM5K. Owner use to drive grand children to school only. 70K mileage.
Yours must be manual?

Grats on your L5 conversion bro. L5 that you got is which engine code?

You guys are poisoning me even more haha!
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its JBJL.
Just do it bro.
forgot to mention the sport rim is limited. brows.gif


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