Not entirely true. The best selling spec for the Forte is the 1.6SX at 85,800. If the 1.6 Elantra is priced at 85-90k it will affect the Forte 1.6SX sales.

Bro, mana ada nearly RM100k drop eh? Brand new around RM120k oni leh... http://www.kahbintang.com/Vehicles/Sonata%20NF/index.html

It is roughly RM64k plus minus, so roughly RM10,667 per annum flatline depreciation. That one is D segment, price drop is always higher than C or B segment.

Point 1. Most modern cars have this fuel tank cap. It's to gain access to the petrol filter inside the tank, which needs to be changed periodically. No big deal. Maybe because the Tucson's back seats can be moved about easily unlike sedan cars that's why many people encountered this so-called shocker. No big deal.

Point 2 is really a safety feature, a mechanical unlocking system that allows the occupants from within to open the doors even if it is locked from the outside. The first time I encountered this so-called futuristic feature was many years ago on a Citroen ZX. I also tried it on a Pug 308T, works the same way.

On my Forte, it's the same thing but only two front doors. However, when the car is moving, I tried to pull the lever, it won't budge/unlock, only when the car is stopped will this feature work.


In other words, there's nothing wrong with the Tucson or any other Hyundai having the above two features which have long been in place in so many cars, including Jap cars (except maybe Point 2 which is more for Conti makes).

Eh, not true. All those Myvi owners say it's worth buying Perodua cos underneath the skin is a Toyota Passo or Daihatsu Boon woh...

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Added on January 23, 2012, 11:50 am

Civic 1.8 tsi =+/-118k
Mazda2.0 =+/-120k
Elantra1.8 =<110k
It should be price less than 110k if compare to J car?
Anyway, K car resale value is really hard to compromise Malaysian mindset..

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wah Honda got TSI engine woh... cool, i want one also, but got DSG a not?

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Added on January 24, 2012, 2:25 pm

no worries, ask any of the SD sales man they can get the Hyundai batch for you. like the kia forte loh. boleh tukar nama.

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They'd better heck change it for free. Inokom sounds like a lorry badge hehehe... At least Naza sells Harleys and exotic cars. Inokom is famous for lorries.

Bro, you'd be surprised at how much depreciation you will experience with a D-segment

I did this comparison in another thread:

2003 Camry 2.0 (the big backside model) New price = RM140k
2003 Sonata 2.0 New price = RM110K

2003 Camry 2.0 now = RM55k
2003 Sonata 2.0 now = RM25k

Camry's depreciation = RM85k
Sonata's depreciation = RM85k

So at the end of the day, what does it tell you? Both cars lost RM85k over a span of 9 yrs, or a flatline depreciation of RM9,444 per annum.

If you're comparing the C-segment Elantra vs the C-segment Civic then yes, the Civic will retain more value over the years.

*Yes* I do

Sonata NF 2.0A 2006 vs Camry XV30 2.0 2006:

Sonata NF 2.0 2006 New Price: RM116,000 w/out insurance etc
Camry XV30 2.0 2006 New Price: RM131,000 w/out insurance etc

Sonata NF 2.0 2006 Current Price: RM54,000 w/out insurance etc
Camry XV30 2.0 2006 Current Price: RM74,000 w/out insurance etc

Sonata NF depreciation: RM62,000
Camry XV40 depreciation: RM57,000

So the savings for driving a Jap over a Korean over a 6 yr period amounts to RM5,000. IMO that is not a lot of money lost for wanting something other than what every other uncle is driving.

Ceh, like that the comparison will never end lol. I can also say why not compare the XV40 against the YF?

Sonata YF std specs:
http://www.mudah.my/Hyundai+Sonata+2+0+AUTO-13337785.htm RM111,000
How to confirm that it's std specs? Check out the keys in the ignition below the steering wheel. High spec 2.0 has push start

Camry XV40 2.0E:
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Camry+2+0+Vvti+10-13226922.htm RM122,000
Confirm std specs: Check for body coloured door handles and rear number plate garnish (G spec has chrome)

Both 2010 models:
Sonata YF RM136,000 less RM111,000 = RM24,888

Camry XV40 RM145,000 less RM122,000 = RM23,000

This post has been edited by gregy: Jan 29 2012, 05:24 AM

Oh, you mean Elantra price should be low until ppl start becoming dumb is it? lol... joking.

But I do agree with you. Based on the rudimentary calculations I did on the previous model Korean vs Jap cars, loss in resale value in RM sense may be the same, but the percentage is higher for K cars. So in order for the loss in value of K cars to be equal to those of Jap cars, the initial selling price needs to be lower by at least RM10k, otherwise you will definitely lose more than buying a Jap of a similar price.

And in these current uncertain times, not many ppl will take that risk.

Hmm, very professional indeed. So now there are 4 variants.

Looks like a Decepticon

I do hope the front central vents are better than the ones found on the Forte. The Forte vents aren't placed that well, freezing the fingers on my left hand. Which is worse I wonder, freezing fingers or freezing elbow? Somehow in the air vent department I feel that both the Elantra and Forte haven't quite got it right.

The Accord already has 5-AT since the model before the 2003-2007 model. And, if you're buying a 2.4 model you have electric leather seats and Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) as standard.

This post has been edited by gregy: Feb 7 2012, 06:19 PM

Don't worry la, there are many Accords to choose from with an 80k budget. And thanks to consumers' fear of FC, the 2.0 and 2.4 models (Accord and Camry) are selling around the same price, so if you don't mind a slightly higher FC you get a whole lot more goodies than a plain 2.0.

Well, so it's a one-off thing for your friend. He will find that his new Mazda will lose more value than a Forte next time when he plans to sell it. I'm surprised he didn't buy another Vios instead.

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Added on February 8, 2012, 10:42 amOf course can compete. Just like Malaysia also can compete in Olympics wat. The question is, can win or not? hehehe...

This post has been edited by gregy: Feb 8 2012, 10:42 AM

You are quite right when it comes to acceleration due to the relative power-to-weight ratio factor. However, once the cars are on the move, the one with the higher cc will have an easier time reaching top speed. But the difference is not that much.

Have you considered a used Conti? Nowadays you can get a 323i E90 or a 523i E60 for around the 15x,xxx mark.

This post has been edited by gregy: Feb 8 2012, 04:37 PM

Ya, not bad. It's 0-100 times are about the same as a Forte 2.0 (roughly 9.3s) thanks to a lighter body (Elantra). But I wonder if it can reach top speed as fast as a Forte 2.0 due to the slightly lower torque.

if you can wait a while I hear that they will be launching the Peugeot 408 (essentially a 308 with a boot).

Agreed

DRL is definitely more useful. Others will be able to notice you from further away, which hopefully lowers the risks of accidents.