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post Dec 31 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 31 2011, 04:49 PM)
The windows you recommend is more expensive than thick tempered glass + grill. If one can afford this level than ok lah. You looking at around RM 100 per square feet onward.
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RM100+ psf... shocking.gif

1 window about 5 sf, 1 sliding door about 20 sf... semi-d got so many windows and sliding door, gonna cost a fortune to do this sweat.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hornsen @ Dec 31 2011, 06:39 PM)
RM100+ psf...  shocking.gif

1 window about 5 sf, 1 sliding door about 20 sf... semi-d got so many windows and sliding door, gonna cost a fortune to do this  sweat.gif
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100+ is on the low side more high end can be higher. Semi-D mah sure need more investment smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 31 2011, 05:36 PM)
Well i had a friend living in semi-d without grill. It is quite safe but depend on location. As my friend house is in puchong
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It is possible. If your area have good security guard and well fence, you don't need grill. I have see some house in my area open their front grill 24hr.

I hate grill too. Feel like prison. Some of my windows replace due to old age don't have grill.
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post Dec 31 2011, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 31 2011, 06:57 PM)
It is possible. If your area have good security guard and well fence, you don't need grill. I have see some house in my area open their front grill 24hr.

I hate grill too. Feel like prison. Some of my windows replace due to old age don't have grill.
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Without grill and gate I can put glass skylight already. But unfortunately we are in Malaysia, got to spend on safety first.


Added on December 31, 2011, 7:04 pmSometime even good security can become bad if the management not consistent and this is very common here.

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post Dec 31 2011, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 31 2011, 07:02 PM)
Without grill and gate I can put glass skylight already. But unfortunately we are in Malaysia, got to spend on safety first.


Added on December 31, 2011, 7:04 pmSometime even good security can become bad if the management not consistent and this is very common here.
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To achieve a better security and better community, we have to look beyond our fence. To safeguard my house, I have to corporate and together to secure my area and community. If we selfish and just look at our property, forever we stay in prison ( grill up).

I think we forget how kampung life with free of grill. (Eh.. I don't have experience how kampung security). He....
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post Dec 31 2011, 09:51 PM

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To achieve this, the country got to give everyone a good job security.

If you go Singapore, you can walk middle of no where and you don't feel unsecured. Because everyone have a job and can make a living.
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post Jan 1 2012, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Kkrs @ Dec 31 2011, 05:57 PM)
Do you know what he/she used for her windows/doors?
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Normal wooden door and aluminium frame. Nothing special. Infect my current neighbour had no grills as well. But then again so far I live in puchong and is quite safe.

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post Jan 15 2012, 07:16 AM

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I don't have grills either. My house don't even have fence or gate....

But for my condo, there is a foyer before the main door and I really think I should put up a grill door or something as my shoe cabinets will be there outside. any nice looking ones to share? I think do like those in HK, bottom solid piece so your neighbors pets can't get thru. Top part will be grill like. Preferably made of aluminum so it won't rust or need painting. Secured with a mortise lock. No padlocks.

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post Jan 15 2012, 05:34 PM

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Theres actually window that have roller shutter like grill... More expensive than the normal window with fixed security grill... Can have the benefit of 100% unobtrusive view, and also have security grill when u want to go to sleep.. Operated by motor or manually winching it down/up
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post Jan 15 2012, 06:53 PM

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Our problem is not grills or no grills. We should grill our police force, that's it. You dont see them in housing estate, not even once a mth. They hide in the polce stations the safest place on earth or somewhere on the road cari extra makan, sad to say but true who can dispute me? Prove me wrong!

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 15 2012, 06:53 PM)
Our problem is not grills or no grills. We should grill our police force, that's it. You dont see them in housing estate, not even once a mth. They hide in the polce stations the safest place on earth or somewhere on the road cari extra makan, sad to say but true who can dispute me? Prove me wrong!
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post Jan 16 2012, 12:02 AM

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why don't you try invisible grill? it's not so noticeable but yet provide some protection. don't expect it to provide the same protection as metal grill though...
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:34 PM

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Hire personal armed security guard on you house if u can afford, no nit grill or gate lo biggrin.gif No door also nvm biggrin.gif Put a table and chair + 1 BIG umbrella would be sufficient. Haha.. Just kidding.

I think by raising some guard dogs might help, few species to name here like rottweilers and german sheperds. Be warned that raising these pets need high commitment, have to take care their health, food and appearance(like cleaning their furs) and also to give them obidient training must be done very often. Commitment lasted for 10-15 years each.
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:12 PM

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It depend of area your stay and WHo stay around that area...
If have petrol cars rounting around, than you may not require to have Grill...example Lile PutraJaya without fencing but now more and more house installed Grill too smile.gif
If you been target, even grill also cant help lol

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post Feb 5 2012, 10:17 AM

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Safety first always opt for grill
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post Feb 5 2012, 10:33 AM

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In Western countries seldom use grill
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post Feb 5 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(bobby_ @ Feb 5 2012, 10:33 AM)
In Western countries seldom use grill
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In Western country we only pay 20k USD for a Camry. In western country if one out of job can go get support from government.

In Western Country, can get a set of good AVR for Less than 800 USD.
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Feb 3 2012, 11:12 PM)
It depend of area your stay and WHo stay around that area...
If have petrol cars rounting around, than you may not require to have Grill...example Lile PutraJaya without fencing but now more and more house installed Grill too smile.gif
If you been target, even grill also cant help lol
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If you house does not have grille and your neighbour's house has grilles, which house would the thief choose to enter? tongue.gif
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post Dec 17 2012, 09:23 PM

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if no grill, can replace with wire mesh/mosquito netting? saw the home dec and newspaper got 1 company advertise. They say its a grill replacement. anyone tried it?
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QUOTE(kamikazecommando @ Feb 5 2012, 10:17 AM)
Safety first always opt for grill
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