clearly he wants to divide and conqure us, leave the big money un refunded.
Conman: dicksonbell or Ch3ong Ch@n wah, New and old victim please can forward
| Bump Topic Add Reply RSS Feed New Topic New Poll |
Conman: dicksonbell or Ch3ong Ch@n wah, New and old victim please can forward
|
|
Dec 27 2011, 05:28 PM
Return to original view | Post
#61
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
clearly he wants to divide and conqure us, leave the big money un refunded.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 27 2011, 05:43 PM
Return to original view | Post
#62
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Dec 27 2011, 05:40 PM) My MOM kinda true, the officer said that too. he ask us go to jabatan siasatan jenayah komersil which office is behind bank negara.Every Police Headquarters in every states don't have balai. Especially Bukit Aman. Like IPK Kuala Lumpur, there's no balai there. but IPD, yes. got balai at IPD... but we can report too at any small police station. |
|
|
Dec 27 2011, 10:54 PM
Return to original view | Post
#63
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
i doubt that you have the money to refund cause the cheque is a fruad cheque.
Added on December 27, 2011, 10:58 pm QUOTE(haniez @ Dec 25 2011, 01:26 AM) Latest Update(27/12/2011): the refund altogether add up also can't reach the single deposit of lhongwuh After all the pressure against him, dicksonbell refunds to 9 people. but there is still 13 people remaining and about 19k++ pending to be refunded.he request until friday. since he is willing to pay, our target now is to make sure all buyer get their money back. Latest Update(25/12/2011): We decided to made a group police report against him on 25/12/2011 at 9pm in Bukit Aman. Those staying nearby and available can join us. So far confirm is: lhongwuh Kelvinlee1987 haniez Additional info about the Seller: forumer lhongwuh admitted to have met dicksonbell in real life a few times before.he suspect dicksonbell is conmen with full name Cheong Chan Wah. Additional information about him:CHEONG CHAN WAH Forumer you are complaining against: dicksonbell Item being sold/bought: Apple iPhone 4s 16GB White/Black Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2118950 Date of transaction: Between 22 Nov 2011 - 13 December 2011 Details of the complaint : Chronology of event 1. On 22 Nov 2011, forumer dicksonbell open a selling thread for preorder of Apple IPhone 4s set from US.At first the deal is for buyer to place RM200 deposit, and full payment made in COD date with the stock limited to 15 unit black and 15 unit white only. 2. On 28 Nov 2011, dicksonbell closed/lock the thread but justifying all the unit is fully booked. The initial promise is for the item to be delivered through COD on 12th Dec 2011 @ Pelita Kota Damansara Subsequently, he still collect deposit from others later than this date by reasoning he got others supplier who can provide him but required larger deposit than before.this is confirm by some of the buyer who make funds transfer transaction to him later than this date. 3. On 11 Dec 2011, still no news from him about the schedule date.Assuming the deal is still on, I send him an sms to his number 011 19098867. Received reply from him saying that has problem with the stock and he will update details in the threads. 4. On 12 Dec 2011, he update to his thread saying that all the stock will delay in arriving, the date will have to resechedule to 22nd Dec 2011 on 3pm sharp. He offer for refunds for those who cannot wait.some of the buyer accept his offer while some choose to wait. At this point of time the thread is still lock from other forumer to post anything. 5. On 14 Dec 2011, moderator open up the thread for allowing others to post again. dicksonbell promised for those choose for refunds will get back their money by next week. 6. On 16 Dec 2011, he closed the offer for refunds and saying waiting for stock to be arrive at the designated date, 7. On 19 Dec 2011, he update the thread confirm the stock will arrive on 22nd (late evening) and cod o be held on 23nd Dec 2011 , this time location change to Kota Damansara.buyer start questioning his delay since it is the second time he postponed the date. some of the guy who earlier choose for refunds complaining they have yet to receive their money. 8. On 21 Dec 2011,he update again saying that all the refunds will be paid after 23th Dec 2011 after he do a COD.According to him all the item is diverted to thailand and he is already there to collect the item and will back on 22nd Dec 2011night.Any sms/call by buyer is not replying by reasoning he is on roaming.Again he reiterate the COD will be on 23nd Dec 2011 . 9. On 22 Dec 2011,he postponed the cod to 24nd Dec 2011 at 7pm-10pm in Sunway Giza Old Town.At these point still no refunds been made. 10.On 23 Dec 2011,most of the forumer getting anxious with the promised date,again he reiterate the date is firm already. 11.On 24 Dec 2011 morning,he update to the forum saying he's taking a flight back to malaysia at 13:40 hrs (+7GMT) from Thailand airport back to LCCT with all the USA stock pack and check in luggage.This time he say the COD will be 8pm onwards.At 730pm, 30 minutes from the promised time he updates back saying he got stuck up in Thailand immigration,these time he promise a full refunds to all party/buyer but can can only do so from 27th Dec 2011 onwards.After discussion with all the buyer and considering the suspicious reason and with moderator consent, we decided to start a disputed thread against dicksonbell until all goods/refunds is delivered as promised by him. Additional Info about Forumer Contact No : 011 19098867 Name of account holder : CHUA WUAN LING Name of the bank :Maybank Bank account no. :114785037198 List of Buyer waiting for undelivered goods/Refunds 1)haniez Transfer Amount : RM 500.00 Transfer Date : 28/11/2011(Through Maybank2u) Ordered Item : 1 X IPhone 4s(White/US set) Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 2)Kelvinlee1987 Transfer Amount :RM 1000 Transfer Date: 23rd Nov (receipt is not with me, just my estimation) Ordered Item :(Iphone 4s Black/White,US/SG set) Iphone 4s White US set X2 3)teraone-sam Transferred Amount : RM1,000.00 Transferred Date : 08 December, 2011 Ordered Item : 1x SG set iPhone 4s, Black color 16GB, 12mths warranty by Singtel 4)slevinra Transferred Amount : RM200 Transferred Date : 28th November 2011 Ordered Item : 1 16GB Black US set. Asked for refund immediately after the first update on the delay. Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 5)T-nes Transferred Amount : RM2,000.00 Transferred Date : 13 December, 2011(bank record m still keeping) Ordered Item :2 unit of ip4s 16gb blk and white(us set) 6)faidzul Transferred Amount : RM2,100.00 Transferred Date : 22 December, 2011(receipt still in hand) Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set) 7)cyfer Transferred Amount : RM200 Transferred Date : 23 November, 2011 12pm Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set) Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 8)coolman82 Transferred Amount : RM500 Transferred Date : ddmmyyyy Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set) Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 9)akuadam Transferred Amount : RM400 Transferred Date : 22/11/2011 about 5.35pm Ordered Item : 1 x White US & 1 x Black US sets. 10).weewee. Transfer Amount : RM 500.00 Transaction date: 25 Nov 2011 (via maybank2u) Transaction time: 14:48:07 Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set) Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 11)MartinX Transfer Amount : RM 200.00 Transaction date: Nov 23 2011 , about 2PM Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set) 12)Rick.st.lim Transfer Amount : RM 600.00 Transaction date: Nov 22 2011 , around 3PM Ordered Item : 3 X iPhone 4s(Black/US set) Refunded: RM 600.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 13)Sedtanz Transfer Amount : RM 400 Transaction date : 27 Nov 2011 , 9.21PM Ordered Item : ( 2 x Black ) Transfer Amount : RM500 Transaction date : 6 Dec 2011 , 1.07PM Ordered Item Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 15)teckteck Transfer Amount : RM 400.00 Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 Transaction time: 04:21pm Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(White/US set) 16)haririzhafri Transfer Amount : RM200 Transaction date: 22 Nov 2011 Transaction time: 02:37pm Ordered Item : 1 iPhone 4s (White/US set) 17)laMi87 Transfer Amount : RM 400.00 Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 (via Maybank2u) Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(Black/US set) Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 18)catv Transfer Amount : RM 1,000.00 Transaction date: 29 Nov 2011 20:07 (via maybank2u) Ordered Item : 2 X iPhone 4s(White/US set) 19)alwinc Transfer Amount : RM 3,400.00 Transaction date: ddmmyyyy Ordered Item : 5x iphone 4s - deposited rm1000m,2x iphone 4s 32gb - depoted rm2400 20)snoopy5 Transfer amount:RM500(via Alliance ebanking) Transaction date: 27 Nov 2011 Ordered Item : ?? 21)lhongwuh Transfer amount:RM4000 Transaction date: 22/11/2011(2k) Transaction date: 30/11/2011(2k) Ordered Item : 12x iphone 4s 22)kaizen57 Transfer amount:RM200 Transaction date: 23/11/2011 Ordered Item : 3x iphone 4s black US Set 23)nubJeff Transfer amount:RM400 Transaction date: 22/11/2011 Ordered Item : 2x iphone 4s Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit) 24)unicornmfk Transfer amount : RM2499 Transaction date : 28 Nov 2011 23:13:59(RM200) Transaction date : 14 Dec 2011 13:56:22(RM2,299) Ordered Item : 1 x iPhone 4s SG set 32gb white Total Disputed Amount(As reported by now) : RM 23,099.00 Total Refunded Amount(As confirmed by now) : RM 3,800.00 This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 27 2011, 10:58 PM |
|
|
Dec 28 2011, 12:27 PM
Return to original view | Post
#64
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
Guys, how many of you have already done police report? Just curiously asking.
|
|
|
Dec 28 2011, 04:11 PM
Return to original view | Post
#65
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 28 2011, 09:30 PM
Return to original view | Post
#66
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 29 2011, 11:58 AM
Return to original view | Post
#67
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 29 2011, 04:41 PM
Return to original view | Post
#68
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 06:50 AM
Return to original view | Post
#69
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
12 hours and counting
Added on December 30, 2011, 7:18 am[quote=bee88,Dec 29 2011, 11:17 PM] [/quote]Are u kidding me ? Are u suggesting dicksonbell painted himself to pose as rsrie to deal with buyers or rsrie did the same to pose as dicksonbell ? 1 is an indian ( rsrie ) and 1 is a chinese ( photos ) . Watched Mission Impossible lately I presume Oh ya , since u can give so many " might happen " scenario based on your point of view, y dont u give some methods 2 prevent all these as well ? That will be helpful , not some worst case scenario to make buyers here worry even more [/quote] To noobi3, I am just identifying those who might be able to find out who is dicksonbell to help out this case. You mentioned rsrie is an indian, and dicksonbell is chinese. FYI, dicksonbell's cellphone is registered under an indian name. So, something fishy there. Your reply has given me and others new insight to identify the culprit. thanks. BTW, if you are asking my point of view to prevent all these, I have one to share. I have run through your post and threads and surprisingly, I could see lotsof similarities between Noobi3 and dicksonbell. One is good in android, and one is good in blackberry.Both are in mobile phone trading. Moreover, the way you post your WTS items is similar. My suggestion to everyone is to be careful when dealing with Noobi3. Hopefully history wont repeat itself. No personal attack here but that's my advice. [/quote] my take is, don't drag others down with assumptions, it's not fair to them because we have no proof of linking them to this case. lets focus on dicksonbell first. my personal advice, be careful in online buying and selling IN GENERAL. This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 30 2011, 07:18 AM |
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 09:41 AM
Return to original view | Post
#70
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
last day of working in 2011, and yet no mood to celebrate
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 11:17 AM
Return to original view | Post
#71
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 01:21 PM
Return to original view | Post
#72
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 02:24 PM
Return to original view | Post
#73
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 02:32 PM
Return to original view | Post
#74
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 02:40 PM
Return to original view | Post
#75
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
QUOTE(unicornmfk @ Dec 30 2011, 02:34 PM) Dicksonbell, AGREED. since it's still 4 hours till 7pm, find the money in time.I demand full refund! You asked me to pay full since you said the phone is ready and will deliver it to me! You cannot just pay half to me or to the rest! Where are the money you collected from us?! I cannot believe its all gone... Since certain people paid deposit and some paid full... You just have to find the money to pay us back! Added on December 30, 2011, 2:40 pm QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 10:07 PM) Yes agreed and I think I have repeat more than 5 time in this thread. I will definitely settle by this Friday evening between 7-8pm. Pls kindly be patient wait for the time to come as I also waiting for it. remember what you said?Ty. Added on December 30, 2011, 2:43 pm QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 04:13 PM) I already found other source of refund it's just funder not in Malaysia now. Pls wait till Friday evening 7-8pm. Take it as my final word and promise. and thisTy This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 30 2011, 02:43 PM |
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 02:47 PM
Return to original view | Post
#76
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 02:40 PM) Pls accept it first. Things happened on my side and I really don't what to tell all grandfather stories anymore. Pls take half refund this evening and rest assure balance on 15th same time again for the final one... if you are reading this, you still have time till 7 to find the money, i suggest you try harder then.Ty. |
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 02:53 PM
Return to original view | Post
#77
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 02:50 PM) If half also can't acceptable then I just surrender to police tonight. 9pm Jalan Perdana Commercial Crime Department level 9. Is this a better solution for everyone? don't bother, Commercial crime department work office hours only. i just want my money back, thats all. just like i told you on the phone.Ty. |
|
|
Dec 30 2011, 03:05 PM
Return to original view | Post
#78
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
by the way, please don't talk like we are trying to push you to the corner and not letting you breathe, you took our money and we are the victim here, not you. we deserve more respect then this.
|
|
|
Jan 4 2012, 05:00 PM
Return to original view | Post
#79
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
any updates recently?
|
|
|
Jan 7 2012, 07:10 PM
Return to original view | Post
#80
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
8 more days to the promise. Although looks like we will get the money back, but I still don't like knowing my money is 'loan'Ed out without interest!
|
| Change to: | 0.0214sec
0.79
7 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 28th November 2025 - 07:17 AM |