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> Conman: dicksonbell or Ch3ong Ch@n wah, New and old victim please can forward

Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 27 2011, 05:28 PM

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clearly he wants to divide and conqure us, leave the big money un refunded.
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post Dec 27 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Dec 27 2011, 05:40 PM)
My MOM  biggrin.gif  said there's no balai there.
Every Police Headquarters in every states don't have balai.
Especially Bukit Aman.

Like IPK Kuala Lumpur, there's no balai there.
but IPD, yes. got balai at IPD...
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kinda true, the officer said that too. he ask us go to jabatan siasatan jenayah komersil which office is behind bank negara.

but we can report too at any small police station.
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 27 2011, 10:54 PM

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i doubt that you have the money to refund cause the cheque is a fruad cheque.


Added on December 27, 2011, 10:58 pm
QUOTE(haniez @ Dec 25 2011, 01:26 AM)
Latest Update(27/12/2011):

After all the pressure against him,  dicksonbell refunds to 9 people.
but there is still 13 people remaining and about 19k++ pending to be refunded.he request until friday.
since he is willing to pay, our target now is to make sure all buyer get their money back.

Latest Update(25/12/2011):
We decided to made a group police report against him on 25/12/2011 at 9pm in Bukit Aman.
Those staying nearby and available can join us.
So far confirm is:
lhongwuh
Kelvinlee1987
haniez

Additional info about the Seller:
forumer lhongwuh admitted to have met dicksonbell in real life a few times before.he suspect dicksonbell is conmen with full name Cheong Chan Wah.
Additional information about him:CHEONG CHAN WAH

Forumer you are complaining against: dicksonbell

Item being sold/bought: Apple iPhone 4s 16GB White/Black

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2118950

Date of transaction: Between 22 Nov 2011 - 13 December 2011
Details of the complaint :

Chronology of event
1. On 22 Nov 2011, forumer dicksonbell open a selling thread for preorder of Apple IPhone 4s set from US.At first the deal is for buyer to place RM200 deposit, and full payment made in COD date with the stock limited to 15 unit black and 15 unit white only.
2. On 28 Nov 2011, dicksonbell closed/lock the thread but justifying all the unit is fully booked.
The initial promise is for the item to be delivered through COD on 12th Dec 2011 @ Pelita Kota Damansara
Subsequently, he still collect deposit from others later than this date by reasoning he got others supplier who can provide him but required larger deposit than before.this is confirm by some of the buyer who make funds transfer transaction to him later than this date.
3. On 11 Dec 2011, still no news from him about the schedule date.Assuming the deal is still on, I send him an sms to his number 011 19098867.
Received reply from him saying that has problem with the stock and he will update details in the threads.
4. On 12 Dec 2011, he update to his thread saying that all the stock will delay in arriving, the date will have to resechedule to  22nd Dec 2011 on 3pm sharp. He offer for refunds for those who cannot wait.some of the buyer accept his offer while some choose to wait.
At this point of time the thread is still lock from other forumer to post anything.
5. On 14 Dec 2011, moderator open up the thread for allowing others to post again. dicksonbell promised for those choose for refunds will get back their money by next week.
6. On 16 Dec 2011, he closed the offer for refunds and saying waiting for stock to be arrive at the designated date,
7. On 19 Dec 2011, he update the thread confirm the stock will arrive  on 22nd (late evening) and cod o be held on 23nd Dec 2011 , this time location change to Kota Damansara.buyer start questioning his delay since it is the second time he postponed the date.
some of the guy who earlier choose for refunds complaining they have yet to receive their money.
8. On 21 Dec 2011,he update again saying that all the refunds will be paid after 23th Dec 2011  after he do a COD.According to him all the item is diverted to thailand and he is already there to collect the item and will back on 22nd Dec 2011night.Any sms/call by buyer is not replying by reasoning he is on roaming.Again he reiterate the COD will be on 23nd Dec 2011 .
9. On 22 Dec 2011,he postponed the cod to 24nd Dec 2011  at 7pm-10pm in Sunway Giza Old Town.At these point still no refunds been made.
10.On 23 Dec 2011,most of the forumer getting anxious with the promised date,again he reiterate the date is firm already.
11.On 24 Dec 2011 morning,he update to the forum saying he's taking a flight back to malaysia at 13:40 hrs (+7GMT) from Thailand airport back to LCCT with all the USA stock pack and check in luggage.This time he say the COD will be 8pm onwards.At 730pm, 30 minutes from the promised time he updates back saying he got stuck up in Thailand immigration,these time he promise a full refunds to all party/buyer but can can only do so from 27th Dec 2011 onwards.After discussion with all the buyer and considering the suspicious reason and with moderator consent, we decided to start a disputed thread against  dicksonbell until all goods/refunds is delivered as promised by him.

Additional Info about Forumer
Contact No :  011 19098867
Name of account holder : CHUA WUAN LING
Name of the bank :Maybank
Bank account no. :114785037198
List of Buyer waiting for undelivered goods/Refunds
1)haniez
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transfer Date : 28/11/2011(Through Maybank2u)
Ordered Item  : 1 X IPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)
2)Kelvinlee1987
Transfer Amount :RM 1000
Transfer Date: 23rd Nov (receipt is not with me, just my estimation)
Ordered Item :(Iphone 4s Black/White,US/SG set) Iphone 4s White US set X2

3)teraone-sam
Transferred Amount : RM1,000.00
Transferred Date : 08 December, 2011
Ordered Item : 1x SG set iPhone 4s, Black color 16GB, 12mths warranty by Singtel

4)slevinra
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 28th November 2011
Ordered Item : 1 16GB Black US set. Asked for refund immediately after the first update on the delay.
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

5)T-nes
Transferred Amount : RM2,000.00
Transferred Date : 13 December, 2011(bank record m still keeping)
Ordered Item :2 unit of ip4s 16gb blk and white(us set)

6)faidzul
Transferred Amount : RM2,100.00
Transferred Date : 22 December, 2011(receipt still in hand)
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)

7)cyfer
Transferred Amount : RM200
Transferred Date : 23 November, 2011 12pm
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)
Refunded: RM 200.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

8)coolman82
Transferred Amount : RM500
Transferred Date : ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : iPhone 4s 16gb white(us set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

9)akuadam
Transferred Amount : RM400
Transferred Date  : 22/11/2011 about 5.35pm
Ordered Item : 1 x White US &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; 1 x Black US sets.

10).weewee.
Transfer Amount : RM 500.00
Transaction date: 25 Nov 2011 (via maybank2u)
Transaction time: 14:48:07
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

11)MartinX
Transfer Amount : RM 200.00
Transaction date: Nov 23 2011 , about 2PM
Ordered Item : 1 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

12)Rick.st.lim
Transfer Amount : RM 600.00
Transaction date: Nov 22 2011 , around 3PM
Ordered Item : 3 X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)
Refunded: RM 600.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

13)Sedtanz
Transfer Amount : RM 400
Transaction date : 27 Nov 2011 , 9.21PM
Ordered Item : ( 2 x Black )
Transfer Amount : RM500
Transaction date : 6 Dec 2011 , 1.07PM
Ordered Item sad.gif 1 x White )
Refunded: RM 500.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

15)teckteck
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 04:21pm
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

16)haririzhafri
Transfer Amount : RM200
Transaction date: 22 Nov 2011
Transaction time: 02:37pm
Ordered Item : 1 iPhone 4s (White/US set)

17)laMi87
Transfer Amount : RM 400.00
Transaction date: 23 Nov 2011 (via Maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2X iPhone 4s(Black/US set)
Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

18)catv
Transfer Amount : RM 1,000.00
Transaction date: 29 Nov 2011 20:07 (via maybank2u)
Ordered Item : 2 X iPhone 4s(White/US set)

19)alwinc
Transfer Amount : RM 3,400.00
Transaction date: ddmmyyyy
Ordered Item : 5x iphone 4s - deposited rm1000m,2x iphone 4s 32gb - depoted rm2400

20)snoopy5
Transfer amount:RM500(via Alliance ebanking)
Transaction date:  27 Nov 2011
Ordered Item : ??

21)lhongwuh
Transfer amount:RM4000
Transaction date: 22/11/2011(2k)
Transaction date: 30/11/2011(2k)
Ordered Item : 12x iphone 4s

22)kaizen57
Transfer amount:RM200
Transaction date: 23/11/2011
Ordered Item : 3x iphone 4s black US Set

23)nubJeff
Transfer amount:RM400
Transaction date: 22/11/2011
Ordered Item : 2x iphone 4s
Refunded: RM 400.00(on 27/12/2012 through cash deposit)

24)unicornmfk
Transfer amount : RM2499
Transaction date :  28 Nov 2011 23:13:59(RM200)
Transaction date :  14 Dec 2011 13:56:22(RM2,299)
Ordered Item : 1 x iPhone 4s SG set 32gb white

Total Disputed Amount(As reported by now) : RM 23,099.00
Total Refunded Amount(As confirmed by now) : RM 3,800.00
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the refund altogether add up also can't reach the single deposit of lhongwuh hmm.gif wonder where all our money go

This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 27 2011, 10:58 PM
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 28 2011, 12:27 PM

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Guys, how many of you have already done police report? Just curiously asking.
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 04:08 PM)
Still pending. Yes or no, after clear only knows. My other funder will be back on Friday evening. He is my backup just in case prob again.

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i wonder how you fund your money if the cheque bounce, which we know it most probably will.
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post Dec 28 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 06:49 PM)
I just want to concern on coming Friday evening refund.

Thank you for co-operation...
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so are we, it's our hard earned money you are talking about!
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(flodder @ Dec 29 2011, 11:18 AM)
excuse me,, Runner is mean Run Leg in Cantonese?  Loan Shark?
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lets hope that not what he meant
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 29 2011, 04:33 PM)
Yes latest 8pm tmrw night...

Ty.
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hope can really get back my hard earned money
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 30 2011, 06:50 AM

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12 hours and counting


Added on December 30, 2011, 7:18 am[quote=bee88,Dec 29 2011, 11:17 PM]
[/quote]Are u kidding me ? Are u suggesting dicksonbell painted himself to pose as rsrie to deal with buyers or rsrie did the same to pose as dicksonbell ? 1 is an indian ( rsrie ) and 1 is a chinese ( photos ) . Watched Mission Impossible lately I presume hmm.gif .............. Ya , it's just an assumption or your opinion , I know but what do ppl want now is their money back , not some assumptions or speculations based on pointless facts to make things worst then it is now .

Oh ya , since u can give so many " might happen " scenario based on your point of view, y dont u give some methods 2 prevent all these as well ? That will be helpful , not some worst case scenario to make buyers here worry even more
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To noobi3, I am just identifying those who might be able to find out who is dicksonbell to help out this case.

You mentioned rsrie is an indian, and dicksonbell is chinese. FYI, dicksonbell's cellphone is registered under an indian name. So, something fishy there. Your reply has given me and others new insight to identify the culprit. thanks.

BTW, if you are asking my point of view to prevent all these, I have one to share. I have run through your post and threads and surprisingly, I could see lotsof similarities between Noobi3 and dicksonbell. One is good in android, and one is good in blackberry.Both are in mobile phone trading. Moreover, the way you post your WTS items is similar. My suggestion to everyone is to be careful when dealing with Noobi3. Hopefully history wont repeat itself. No personal attack here but that's my advice.
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my take is, don't drag others down with assumptions, it's not fair to them because we have no proof of linking them to this case. lets focus on dicksonbell first.

my personal advice, be careful in online buying and selling IN GENERAL.

This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 30 2011, 07:18 AM
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post Dec 30 2011, 09:41 AM

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last day of working in 2011, and yet no mood to celebrate sad.gif
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post Dec 30 2011, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 10:46 AM)
Waiting my funder cash now to refund. As promise 8pm tonight.

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hope this is really the last promise before you deliver our refund tonight.
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post Dec 30 2011, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 10:46 AM)
Waiting my funder cash now to refund. As promise 8pm tonight.

Ty.
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please update us with the progress from time to time.
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 30 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 30 2011, 02:05 PM)
As expected, another excuse.
Alright, where is the cheque now? Gone already? whistling.gif

Guys, do your part now. File a case with police to protect yourself and punish those who deserve it.
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dissapointed
Kelvinlee1987
post Dec 30 2011, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 02:30 PM)
Yes cheque gone. I already try my best to pay back. Hope can co-operate.

Ty.
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we just want our money back, where has our money gone? i don't get it. stock..no, money also no?
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post Dec 30 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(unicornmfk @ Dec 30 2011, 02:34 PM)
Dicksonbell,

I demand full refund! You asked me to pay full since you said the phone is ready and will deliver it to me!

You cannot just pay half to me or to the rest!

Where are the money you collected from us?!

I cannot believe its all gone... Since certain people paid deposit and some paid full...

You just have to find the money to pay us back!
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AGREED. since it's still 4 hours till 7pm, find the money in time.


Added on December 30, 2011, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 10:07 PM)
Yes agreed and I think I have repeat more than 5 time in this thread. I will definitely settle by this Friday evening between 7-8pm. Pls kindly be patient wait for the time to come as I also waiting for it.

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remember what you said?


Added on December 30, 2011, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 28 2011, 04:13 PM)
I already found other source of refund it's just funder not in Malaysia now. Pls wait till Friday evening 7-8pm. Take it as my final word and promise.

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and this

This post has been edited by Kelvinlee1987: Dec 30 2011, 02:43 PM
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post Dec 30 2011, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 02:40 PM)
Pls accept it first. Things happened on my side and I really don't what to tell all grandfather stories anymore. Pls take half refund this evening and rest assure balance on 15th same time again for the final one...

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if you are reading this, you still have time till 7 to find the money, i suggest you try harder then.
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post Dec 30 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(dicksonbell @ Dec 30 2011, 02:50 PM)
If half also can't acceptable then I just surrender to police tonight. 9pm Jalan Perdana Commercial Crime Department level 9. Is this a better solution for everyone?

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don't bother, Commercial crime department work office hours only. i just want my money back, thats all. just like i told you on the phone.
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post Dec 30 2011, 03:05 PM

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by the way, please don't talk like we are trying to push you to the corner and not letting you breathe, you took our money and we are the victim here, not you. we deserve more respect then this.
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post Jan 4 2012, 05:00 PM

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any updates recently?
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post Jan 7 2012, 07:10 PM

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8 more days to the promise. Although looks like we will get the money back, but I still don't like knowing my money is 'loan'Ed out without interest!



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