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uzairi
post Jun 6 2007, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 5 2007, 11:00 PM)
not sure about your mobo. but for my DFI, the vcore and vNB(chipset) will only fluctuate when the PWMIC temperature too high.
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Mine too.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 5 2007, 11:23 PM)
Where in the world is the chipset voltage??? I can't seem to find it in speedfan.

Hehe, because I never knew have to monitor chipset temperature and voltages too!!!  wink.gif
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Im using abit EQ to monitor the chipset voltage.

QUOTE(Dickong @ Jun 5 2007, 11:42 PM)
I change my chipset cooler to vc-re and even place a 12cm fan blowing with only 1.5v on chipset i get as high as 50-51oc when on full load, ideal at 41-42oc. Wonder whether you have your casing open.
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How about room temperature ?
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post Jun 6 2007, 09:15 PM

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guys, need some help here... wat cud be d reason (in particular) of system freeze after primin for hours? my system is stable when prime with small fft (8-512K), but when i run blend test, freeze happened. sad.gif

i admit that expert is harder to tame if compared to ultra-d, but there must be a way, just short of time to find out what is d culprit as i'm busy w job huntin lately... sweat.gif

ram settings, ldt voltage, chipset voltage or vdimm? i notice that expert needs more juice than ultra-d or nf4-d. still my nf4-d is d best of all so far, but it's resided in my gf rig currently... tongue.gif

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post Jun 7 2007, 03:07 AM

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It seems that all the voltages were at stock, increasing it might help i think. Especially the vChipset and vLDT and vCore.
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post Jun 7 2007, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 6 2007, 09:15 PM)
guys, need some help here... wat cud be d reason (in particular) of system freeze after primin for hours? my system is stable when prime with small fft (8-512K), but when i run blend test, freeze happened.  sad.gif

i admit that expert is harder to tame if compared to ultra-d, but there must be a way, just short of time to find out what is d culprit as i'm busy w job huntin lately...  sweat.gif

ram settings, ldt voltage, chipset voltage or vdimm? i notice that expert needs more juice than ultra-d or nf4-d. still my nf4-d is d best of all so far, but it's resided in my gf rig currently...  tongue.gif

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expert is for "expert" only laugh.gif
ram setting could be the factor and it's more difficult to tweak compare with nf4 older series. btw, expert vdimm overvolt 0.01v or almost same as the value in bios unlike overvolt much in older nf4, that's why sometime it need higher vdimm.
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post Jun 7 2007, 04:35 AM

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I think what limits my x2 overclocking is the psu. I increase all the voltage also cannot go, errors at the 2 round most of the time. Time to get the fortron 700w.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jun 7 2007, 03:07 AM)
It seems that all the voltages were at stock, increasing it might help i think. Especially the vChipset and vLDT and vCore.
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yup, i just increase d ldt voltage by one notch, mebe should try increasin d chipset voltage as well. nothing wrong w d vcore i guess since it passed small fft w/o problem, headache comes when ram is involved... cry.gif

QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 7 2007, 03:13 AM)
expert is for "expert" only  laugh.gif
ram setting could be the factor and it's more difficult to tweak compare with nf4 older series. btw, expert vdimm overvolt 0.01v or almost same as the value in bios unlike overvolt much in older nf4, that's why sometime it need higher vdimm.
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yup, mebe am just an expert wanna be... laugh.gif am tryin to burn it w/ memtest test currently, mebe d ram need time to settle in w d new mobo. too much option available in d bios for this expert, but am kinda like it even it's torturin me now... tongue.gif

QUOTE(uzairi @ Jun 7 2007, 04:35 AM)
I think what limits my x2 overclocking is the psu. I increase all the voltage also cannot go, errors at the 2 round most of the time. Time to get the fortron 700w.. hmm.gif
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am aimin ocz now but pocket empty, they just come out w new series lately if i'm not mistaken. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 7 2007, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 7 2007, 07:35 AM)
yup, mebe am just an expert wanna be...  laugh.gif am tryin to burn it w/ memtest test currently, mebe d ram need time to settle in w d new mobo. too much option available in d bios for this expert, but am kinda like it even it's torturin me now...  tongue.gif

am aimin ocz now but pocket empty, they just come out w new series lately if i'm not mistaken.  biggrin.gif
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the bios is almost same as nf4 series if I remember correctly, just the ds/dds option more advance. smile.gif some tips for you, try the lowest value first, weak 1/ lvl 1 instead of auto and the yellow slot in expert mobo is "cacat" tongue.gif

why dont go for corsair psu? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 7 2007, 10:15 AM)
the bios is almost same as nf4 series if I remember correctly, just the ds/dds option more advance.  smile.gif  some tips for you, try the lowest value first, weak 1/ lvl 1 instead of auto and the yellow slot in expert mobo is "cacat"  tongue.gif

why dont go for corsair psu?  icon_idea.gif
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exactly... can't even boot up even i've tried to switch d position. doh.gif i'm usin lvl 14 now, so far memtest ok. odd no = weak while even = normal, d smaller d no. d weaker it is, rite gsan bro? auto wud be d strongest of normal if 'im not mistaken (wild guess only since it starts w 1 instead of 0). hmm.gif

corsair modular psu? hmm... modular psu is not my cup of tea leh... tongue.gif
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post Jun 7 2007, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 7 2007, 11:44 AM)
exactly... can't even boot up even i've tried to switch d position.  doh.gif i'm usin lvl 14 now, so far memtest ok. odd no = weak while even = normal, d smaller d no. d weaker it is, rite gsan bro? auto wud be d strongest of normal if 'im not mistaken (wild guess only since it starts w 1 instead of 0).  hmm.gif

corsair modular psu? hmm... modular psu is not my cup of tea leh...  tongue.gif
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as I knoe, lvl 9 and above is for 4 dimm, but I never try before. you're right, odd=weak and even=normal. my bh5 can up to ds/dds 8/4 at 250MHz @ 2-2-2-5, any frequency above it have to tweak from the lowest value. if I not remember wrongly, OPB suggest that only set ds to lvl 1 then tweak around the dds from lvl 1.
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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 7 2007, 12:10 PM)
as I knoe, lvl 9 and above is for 4 dimm, but I never try before. you're right, odd=weak and even=normal. my bh5 can up to ds/dds 8/4 at 250MHz @ 2-2-2-5, any frequency above it have to tweak from the lowest value. if I not remember wrongly, OPB suggest that only set ds to lvl 1 then tweak around the dds from lvl 1.
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i see... shoud try ds = lvl 8 then. same here, i alwez use dds = lvl 4 for tight timin ram. i thought tight timin ram shud use normal, only tccd or high frequency modules use weak ds eg. lvl 1, 3, 5 or 7? hmm... will give it a try after i'm settled w gettin a new job, as for now, work is more important... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jun 7 2007, 04:35 AM)
I think what limits my x2 overclocking is the psu. I increase all the voltage also cannot go, errors at the 2 round most of the time. Time to get the fortron 700w.. hmm.gif
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what psu ure using right now? chapalang one ar? aiyooo doh.gif
ure rich kid what....go n buy PC&cooling power psu lar..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alieamin @ Jun 7 2007, 01:23 PM)
what psu ure using right now? chapalang one ar? aiyooo doh.gif
ure rich kid what....go n buy PC&cooling power psu lar..... tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2007, 11:07 AM

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2.9GHz @ 1.328v thumbup.gif

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post Jun 8 2007, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 8 2007, 11:07 AM)
2.9GHz @ 1.328v  thumbup.gif

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Really envious of you proc man. Nice proc you have there.... thumbup.gif

What is the secret? Burn the CPU at high voltage first then down-volt? hmm.gif
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post Jun 8 2007, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Jun 8 2007, 11:07 AM)
2.9GHz @ 1.328v  thumbup.gif

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Nice man! I need more wattsssssssssss.. cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 8 2007, 03:21 PM)
Really envious of you proc man. Nice proc you have there....  thumbup.gif

What is the secret? Burn the CPU at high voltage first then down-volt?  hmm.gif
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Stress the cpu 100% for some time then u can lower the voltage. brows.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jun 8 2007, 06:22 PM)
Nice man! I need more wattsssssssssss..  cry.gif  cry.gif
Stress the cpu 100% for some time then u can lower the voltage.  brows.gif
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So let's say my core is stable at 2740 Ghz @ 1.40v. Should I just stress it at that level or go higher, like 1.45v?

Another thing, I tried to downvolt my proc at stock 2.2 Ghz and it went all the way down to 1.129v!!! Immediately failed if I put it at 1.10v. Now orthosing at 2.2 Ghz @ 1.129v!!! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Is this advisable or it is even recommended???!!?? hmm.gif Will post this question in the hardware Q&A section.....

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post Jun 8 2007, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 8 2007, 07:31 PM)
So let's say my core is stable at 2740 Ghz @ 1.40v. Should I just stress it at that level or go higher, like 1.45v?

Another thing, I tried to downvolt my proc at stock 2.2 Ghz and it went all the way down to 1.129v!!! Immediately failed if I put it at 1.10v. Now orthosing at 2.2 Ghz @ 1.129v!!!  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Is this advisable or it is even recommended???!!??  hmm.gif Will post this question in the hardware Q&A section.....
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Run ur proc at that speed and voltage for like 1 month, and then lower the voltage to 1.375v and try again. To lower the vcore u need to do a very long burn ins..
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jun 8 2007, 08:23 PM)
Run ur proc at that speed and voltage for like 1 month, and then lower the voltage to 1.375v and try again. To lower the vcore u need to do a very long burn ins..
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Ok. Thx. thumbup.gif

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