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 To those who think it's easy reaching sub 10% bf, You might not be as lean as you think

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mikehuan
post Jan 29 2013, 09:47 AM

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Plus hes an idiot. Stuff he spews out are pure nonsense I dont know why u guys layan him so much.


Dont argue with idiots, they will bring you down to their level. This fella seriously take the idiot cake of the year and its still January.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jan 29 2013, 09:47 AM)
Plus hes an idiot. Stuff he spews out are pure nonsense I dont know why u guys layan him so much.
Dont argue with idiots, they will bring you down to their level. This fella seriously take the idiot cake of the year and its still January.
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Remember when you called him out for his pic? He made an excuse. Heh. They always do.
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post Jan 29 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:06 AM)
Remember when you called him out for his pic? He made an excuse. Heh. They always do.
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Tbh I find his excuse weird. Those with ink, my friends that have them anyways have absolutely no qualms to show off their ink. Eager to do it even.

Expected la. Knowing the fella hes probably gonna steal one from the net
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post Jan 29 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jan 29 2013, 10:11 AM)
Tbh I find his excuse weird. Those with ink, my friends that have them anyways have absolutely no qualms to show off their ink. Eager to do it even.

Expected la. Knowing the fella hes probably gonna steal one from the net
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I was...... really temped to unblock him y'know. So that i could flame him. Lucky i didn't. If i did, lol, i dunno if wkkay would still rule in our favor. I'm so proud of my self restraint (yeah right). It's just that I've come to a point where simple minded people just don't exactly irk me anymore unless they say something particularly stupid here. But GodTier is another story. I don't know how to categorize him. His posts are worse than any newbie I've encountered. At least you know that new members, even those who come in with misconceived perceptions about H & F are open to correction and enlightenment.

That guy doesn't fit anywhere. I don't dislike him, i really feel sorry for him.
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:21 AM)
That guy doesn't fit anywhere. I don't dislike him, i really feel sorry for him.
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Exactly like I said. Ignorance is bliss.

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joejee
post Jan 29 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(GodTier @ Jan 28 2013, 10:32 PM)
as if low bf is good LOL
I want to point out that extremely low bf is unhealthy
if anyone wants to jeopardize their good heath and comfort,  in exchange of low bf( 10% and less), go ahead. 

achievable how ?

10% and less bf is in deficits range for muscle growth or just maintaining big build of muscle
it may naturally achievable in short term, few day or few weeks or so
before the muscle starts losing/shirking, till like anorexia patients 

analogy again
bodybuilding with low bf is like ur car going up genting without good engine performance

essential/saturated fat % in body is like fuel in car
ur car stop climbing when u cut off the fuel...it may not roll downhill, shrink in muscle ..instantly
but it's just about time when the momentum ran out and start accelerating downhill.
if u cant differentiate a middle aged guy
and 20s young adult, then what is there to debate ?

if u want to prove he as if he stops aging since his early 20s then show which features he has that showing he indeed looks like in 20s.
else, i wont want to figure what gayshit perspective u have to him
refer to post above 
cave in the midnite nite is high in humidity and low in temperature, without external heat, it wont be dried till the late morning.

the point is, the monk can generate excess warm( proven by IR temperature sense camera) to dry up the towel
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Emm.... , i wonder how the athletes with low bf (without good engine performance) win the games. Maybe next time we could see athletes with 30% bf (more fuel) win marathon...hehe...sorry for my ignorance ya GodTier.

Are you the monk mentioned above anyway? notworthy.gif



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post Jan 29 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(GodTier @ Jan 27 2013, 06:11 PM)

and naturally I dont think it is achievable without drugs that short-cutting our body metabolism rate to burn off the fat

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Translation: "I am a lazy f**ker who is too undisciplined to cut so I make excuses and claim everyone else who isn't lazy and unmotivated is on ROIDZZZZZZZ."
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post Jan 29 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(joejee @ Jan 29 2013, 01:22 PM)
Emm....  , i wonder how the athletes with low bf (without good engine performance) win the games. Maybe next time we could see athletes with 30% bf (more fuel) win marathon...hehe...sorry for my ignorance ya GodTier.

Are you the monk mentioned above anyway? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(joeblows @ Jan 29 2013, 01:45 PM)
Translation: "I am a lazy f**ker who is too undisciplined to cut so I make excuses and claim everyone else who isn't lazy and unmotivated is on ROIDZZZZZZZ."
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Heh. The guy is so full of nonsense it's hilarious. Let me put is this way. A rare concession. IF one is below 5% bodyfat it's unhealthy. If sub 10% around 7ish % it's still.fine. Difficult to achieve, possible, but you have to do funky things to reach that level. It's not really possible on a normal conventional caloric deficit but doable.

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post Jan 31 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Arrio @ Jan 29 2013, 08:37 AM)
Hi GTier, if you are not in your sub-10, I think you have better kept those words you uttered for yourself though I can understand there's a freedom of speech. Maybe you have good intention, that's I'm not sure but I don't agree with your statement without drugs, we can't go sub-10, that's just your own opinion. If you do not have the knowledge in science, not general science, to back up your statement, go sit for ACE, CSCS then further studies in ACSM.
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ya, i should change my career to work as professional body trainer too lol before i can post in here
sound like u got better scientifically calculation or explanation ...mind to show how ?
do u have those idk exams cert?

i dont think u can explain any lor, not even with bro science or kid science standard ...needless to say professional ur ABC cert standard.

QUOTE(joejee @ Jan 29 2013, 01:22 PM)
Emm....  , i wonder how the athletes with low bf (without good engine performance) win the games. Maybe next time we could see athletes with 30% bf (more fuel) win marathon...hehe...sorry for my ignorance ya GodTier.

Are you the monk mentioned above anyway? notworthy.gif
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world class athletes train 8 hours per day, at least 5 days per weeks
their bf is nicely utilized with high metabolism rate...all consumptions is calculated and burn out evenly, and they have the luxury of using supplements that may not out in market/ commercially available hence maintaining low bf at certain range isnt problem at all

u see, u make wrong analogy.
marathon is more on endurance/stamina
their goal is run long distance in shortest time, not to have big body, huge strength or what.

a big truck with 100L fuel tank maybe not run longer/faster than hilux with 50L fuel tank.
bcuz the weigh vs power output ratio
big size consumes more energy

which is why often marathon runner are more slim than sprint runner
slim is light weight, less resistance hence more energy efficient hence run longer

it's okay, no hard feeling... ignorance isnt a sin lol =)


i am not monk. but i train myself for the same thing. even though my level hasnt achieve as good as their yet.








QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 29 2013, 04:37 PM)
Heh. The guy is so full of nonsense it's hilarious. Let me put is this way. A rare concession. IF one is below 5% bodyfat it's unhealthy. If sub 10% around 7ish % it's still.fine. Difficult to achieve, possible, but you have to do funky things to reach that level. It's not really possible on a normal conventional caloric deficit but doable.
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actually I came here just to discuss, to test how deep is ur all knowledge.
i rather go to other forums for discussing this matter, in a more biologically sound way.
but never mind, hopefully i can bring up the standard of this section lol

some are saying me talking about bro science but none of u talk in a scientifically way.

what are the funky things ? consuming anabolic steroid ?

why suddenly 7% is okay but 2% less is not ok ?
is ur way of calculating bf so accurate ?

i can go on forever asking, but u couldnt answer.
lol
dont talk none related stuffs so much la
why as elite also like to personal attack lol, just reply point to point la

i dont want reveal my pictures online is my rights
haters gonna hate anyway. what for i jeopardize my shell for online haters disturbing my real life ... just to win an argument online ?...not worth to me
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shall i say "ignorance is bliss"
I'm always a silent reader but this just made me......
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post Jan 31 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(hh_yeap @ Jan 31 2013, 08:30 AM)
shall i say "ignorance is bliss"
I'm always a silent reader but this just made me......
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Lol yeah. GodTier is actually quite a comedian if you come to think of it. Dumb fella. Funny but dumb.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 31 2013, 09:00 AM)
Lol yeah. GodTier is actually quite a comedian if you come to think of it. Dumb fella. Funny but dumb.
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QUOTE(GodTier @ Jan 31 2013, 12:40 AM)
ya, i should change my career to work as professional body trainer too lol before i can post in here
sound like u got better scientifically calculation or explanation ...mind to show how ?
do u have those idk exams cert?

i dont think u can explain any lor, not even with bro science or kid science standard ...needless to say professional ur ABC cert standard.

world class athletes train 8 hours per day, at least 5 days per weeks
their bf is nicely utilized with high metabolism rate...all consumptions is calculated and burn out evenly, and they have the luxury of using supplements that may not out in market/ commercially available hence maintaining low bf at certain range isnt problem at all

u see, u make wrong analogy.
marathon is more on endurance/stamina
their goal is run long distance in shortest time, not to have big body, huge strength or what.

a big truck with 100L fuel tank maybe not run longer/faster than hilux with 50L fuel tank.
bcuz the weigh vs power output ratio
big size consumes more energy

which is why often marathon runner are more slim than sprint runner
slim is light weight, less resistance hence more energy efficient hence run longer

it's okay, no hard feeling... ignorance isnt a sin lol =)
i am not monk. but i train myself for the same thing. even though my level hasnt achieve as good as their yet.
 
actually I came here just to discuss, to test how deep is ur all knowledge.
i rather go to other forums for discussing this matter, in a more biologically sound way.
but never mind, hopefully i can bring up the standard of this section lol

some are  saying me talking about bro science but none of u talk in a scientifically way.

what are the funky things ? consuming anabolic steroid ?

why suddenly 7% is okay but 2% less is not ok ?
is ur way of calculating bf so accurate ?

i can go on forever asking, but u couldnt answer.
lol
dont talk none related stuffs so much la
why as elite also like to personal attack lol, just reply point to point la

i dont want reveal my pictures online is my rights
haters gonna hate anyway. what for i jeopardize my shell for online haters disturbing my real life ... just to win an argument online ?...not worth to me
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Man...Damn...
As a newbie and a neutral reader, I won't comment on your claims and statements about BB because personally I think you're full of sh*t but that's just me.
My question is - coming in here with your blazing toy guns of knowledge, do you even know the difference between Opinions and Facts? Know the difference. If you have an opinion and seek discussion, a healthy discussion would be in place here. Now you have an opinion which you throw around like the bible and forcing others to accept, then my good man, you become pretty damn annoying.

Also, my dear Troy of Keyboard Kingdom, riddle me this. If your doctor tells you u're sick..and your 80 year old grandma says u're not based on her opinion, who'd u hear?
Apply it here.

Rgds!

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 31 2013, 09:00 AM)
Lol yeah. GodTier is actually quite a comedian if you come to think of it. Dumb fella. Funny but dumb.
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Funny for pros and elites like you people who actually know what you're doing. Not so funny, quite misleading and even demotivating for newbies who aim to achieve sub 10% BF.
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QUOTE(VaLeNrUdOn @ Jan 31 2013, 12:03 PM)
Funny for pros and elites like you people who actually know what you're doing. Not so funny, quite misleading and even demotivating for newbies who aim to achieve sub 10% BF.
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I read your reply above. Well said Bro. And yes, that is part of the reason why he annoyed a lot of people here. Achieving sub 10% is possible, just hard as hell but done sensibly, slowly and steadily, it can be maintained relatively easily once the body achieves homeostasis at that level.

You can tell he's still butthurt. He keeps checking in here to reply and view replies even though there's a general consensus that he's not wanted here.
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QUOTE(VaLeNrUdOn @ Jan 31 2013, 12:03 PM)
Funny for pros and elites like you people who actually know what you're doing. Not so funny, quite misleading and even demotivating for newbies who aim to achieve sub 10% BF.
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He reminded me of one chinese proverb "Complaining the grapes are sour when he could not have it".... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(joejee @ Jan 31 2013, 01:20 PM)
He reminded me of one chinese proverb "Complaining the grapes are sour when he could not have it".... rclxms.gif
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I guess this is so true. When he can't have that sub 10% BF, he said that everyone that has it either on Roids, is 24/7 athlete, having a supplement company behind them. Other than that, it is impossible. JEALOUSY? wink.gif
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QUOTE(joejee @ Jan 31 2013, 01:20 PM)
He reminded me of one chinese proverb "Complaining the grapes are sour when he could not have it".... rclxms.gif
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Quoated from a Persian Proverb,

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool—shun him.
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child—teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep—wake him.
He who knows and knows that he knows is wise—follow him.”

Which "he" is he? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(joejee @ Jan 31 2013, 01:37 PM)
Quoated from a Persian Proverb,

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool—shun him. 
He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child—teach him.
He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep—wake him. 
He who knows and knows that he knows is wise—follow him.”

Which "he" is he?  hmm.gif
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What I know that 'HE' is not sub 10% BF
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QUOTE(GodTier @ Jan 31 2013, 12:40 AM)
ya, i should change my career to work as professional body trainer too lol before i can post in here
sound like u got better scientifically calculation or explanation ...mind to show how ?
do u have those idk exams cert?

i dont think u can explain any lor, not even with bro science or kid science standard ...needless to say professional ur ABC cert standard.

world class athletes train 8 hours per day, at least 5 days per weeks
their bf is nicely utilized with high metabolism rate...all consumptions is calculated and burn out evenly, and they have the luxury of using supplements that may not out in market/ commercially available hence maintaining low bf at certain range isnt problem at all

u see, u make wrong analogy.
marathon is more on endurance/stamina
their goal is run long distance in shortest time, not to have big body, huge strength or what.

a big truck with 100L fuel tank maybe not run longer/faster than hilux with 50L fuel tank.
bcuz the weigh vs power output ratio
big size consumes more energy

which is why often marathon runner are more slim than sprint runner
slim is light weight, less resistance hence more energy efficient hence run longer

it's okay, no hard feeling... ignorance isnt a sin lol =)
i am not monk. but i train myself for the same thing. even though my level hasnt achieve as good as their yet.
 
actually I came here just to discuss, to test how deep is ur all knowledge.
i rather go to other forums for discussing this matter, in a more biologically sound way.
but never mind, hopefully i can bring up the standard of this section lol

some are  saying me talking about bro science but none of u talk in a scientifically way.

what are the funky things ? consuming anabolic steroid ?

why suddenly 7% is okay but 2% less is not ok ?
is ur way of calculating bf so accurate ?

i can go on forever asking, but u couldnt answer.
lol
dont talk none related stuffs so much la
why as elite also like to personal attack lol, just reply point to point la

i dont want reveal my pictures online is my rights
haters gonna hate anyway. what for i jeopardize my shell for online haters disturbing my real life ... just to win an argument online ?...not worth to me
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