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SUSaaaeye
post Dec 20 2011, 03:02 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hello everybody..

Now, i want to get a lean body and build muscle..besides, want to get body like a fighter and have strength and agility..

My training right now:

Cardio - Jogging 2km, and skipping 50 with 30s rest..

Weight lifting - Normal 11kg dumb bell..

So, may i know proper way to get the body like this:

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SUSPepper
post Dec 20 2011, 03:18 PM

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cardio change to HIIT
weight lift change to the one that requires explosiveness aka power clean, snatch, ect. read the stickies. 11kg can only bring you to a certain point only. join a MMA class or something too. different type of martial art gives different type of body.
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post Dec 20 2011, 08:07 PM

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I think first you need to explain how is the current condition of your body. before the sifu here can advice you on the next step.
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post Dec 20 2011, 08:17 PM

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u wan the looks of the body
or the functionality of the body?
SUSaaaeye
post Dec 20 2011, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Dec 20 2011, 08:07 PM)
I think first you need to explain how is the current condition of your body. before the sifu here can advice you on the next step.
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I got 172cm/92kg/38cm waist.. my total muscle mass around 50kg if i'm not mistaken.. blush.gif

Mostly have fat at the abs, oblisque and chest..sometimes looks like man boobs.. cry.gif

QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Dec 20 2011, 08:17 PM)
u wan the looks of the body
or the functionality of the body?
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I want both.. nod.gif
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post Dec 20 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(aaaeye @ Dec 20 2011, 10:07 PM)
I got 172cm/92kg/38cm waist.. my total muscle mass around 50kg if i'm not mistaken..  blush.gif

Mostly have fat at the abs, oblisque and chest..sometimes looks like man boobs..  cry.gif
I want both..  nod.gif
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start changing ur diet first...
most importantly
and i guess u made a mistake
if u got 38cm waist, u damn slim...
lol
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post Dec 20 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(aaaeye @ Dec 20 2011, 09:07 PM)
I got 172cm/92kg/38cm waist.. my total muscle mass around 50kg if i'm not mistaken..  blush.gif

Mostly have fat at the abs, oblisque and chest..sometimes looks like man boobs..  cry.gif
I want both..  nod.gif
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you mean 38 inches waist is it?
your 38" is from measurement tape or from your pants? if from pants it is false.
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post Dec 20 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 20 2011, 11:36 PM)
you mean 38 inches waist is it?
your 38" is from measurement tape or from your pants? if from pants it is false.
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if pants shud b more or less a?
SUSaaaeye
post Dec 20 2011, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Dec 20 2011, 10:23 PM)
start changing ur diet first...
most importantly
and i guess u made a mistake
if u got 38cm waist, u damn slim...
lol
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Oops~ 38" laugh.gif

QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 20 2011, 10:36 PM)
you mean 38 inches waist is it?
your 38" is from measurement tape or from your pants? if from pants it is false.
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It's from my pants..so, if by tape i dunno how much.. sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Dec 20 2011, 10:39 PM)
if pants shud b more or less a?
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nope, different a lot, the clothing industries have been telling white lies to keep consumer happy.
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 21 2011, 01:28 AM)
nope, different a lot, the clothing industries have been telling white lies to keep consumer happy.
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so shud be more OR less?
which?
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Dec 21 2011, 01:11 AM)
so shud be more OR less?
which?
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of coz what pants show is less than actual size.
my pants and measurement tape show the size is different by 6"
don't think the cloth can expand until 6" ba.. hmm.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(aaaeye @ Dec 20 2011, 03:02 PM)
Hello everybody..

Now, i want to get a lean body and build muscle..besides, want to get body like a fighter and have strength and agility..

My training right now:

Cardio - Jogging 2km, and skipping 50 with 30s rest..

Weight lifting - Normal 11kg dumb bell..

So, may i know proper way to get the body like this:

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If you want to replicate a fighter's body, then live the fighter's lifestyle.
Eat like them, train like them.

I personally don't know any local fighters whose training regiment consists purely of jogging 2km and weight lifting 11kg DB.
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post Dec 21 2011, 08:33 AM

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lol, dude ur best deal would be joining a martial art and since u r posting tony's pic, join muay thai (not those muay fit kind of stuff, go join real muay thai training). U will get lots of "hiit" there.
SUSaaaeye
post Dec 22 2011, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 21 2011, 08:33 AM)
lol, dude ur best deal would be joining a martial art and since u r posting tony's pic, join muay thai (not those muay fit kind of stuff, go join real muay thai training). U will get lots of "hiit" there.
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Already joined before..but other martial art..2 years ago.. tongue.gif

Today i just do HIIT..

Jog, run, jog..really tired one eventhough i jog everyday.. sweat.gif

HIIT burn more fat than cardio exercise rite?
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post Dec 22 2011, 02:16 AM

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hiit is cardio exercise.
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post Dec 22 2011, 10:23 AM

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Hi TS, I can't tell you how to train for other martial arts but I box. So I'm just gonna tell you what is recommended for boxers. (Not that I follow everything, because I'm lazy tongue.gif )

Please remember that boxers train specifically for that 3 mins round.
Cardio
Running
  • At amateur level, 3 times a week 10km runs (I only manage 5km 3 times a week)
  • Each run is divided into sections. First section is plain running for about 3km.
  • Next section is 3 mins fast run (not quite a sprint yet) and then 2 mins of shadowboxing while jogging
  • The final section is sprinting to the finish

Misc
  • Squat jumps
  • Burpees
  • Lunges
  • Leg raises
  • Jump punches
  • Jump twists
  • Obstacle course type tyre exercise (i have no idea what its called)
*note that all these misc exercises are done while running. This run is separate from the 10km recommended runs

Martial arts specific
This you'll have to fill in yourself because it depends on the martial art you practice. But it should be about 4-6 hours a week.

Strength
Old school boxing coaches don't agree with weight training. They say it makes you slow. I'm not sure but I still do weights because power is important

I think you'd better ask the weights guru-s here for weight exercises that focus on explosive power and endurance, not strength. Since boxing is core and footwork centric, I mainly do core exercises.
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post Dec 22 2011, 11:05 AM

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Why not train for this??

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post Dec 22 2011, 11:19 AM

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lol. he wish!
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post Dec 22 2011, 11:21 AM

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lol I wish too!!
SUSaaaeye
post Dec 22 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(farkinid @ Dec 22 2011, 10:23 AM)
Hi TS, I can't tell you how to train for other martial arts but I box. So I'm just gonna tell you what is recommended for boxers. (Not that I follow everything, because I'm lazy tongue.gif )

Please remember that boxers train specifically for that 3 mins round.
Cardio
Running

  • At amateur level, 3 times a week 10km runs (I only manage 5km 3 times a week)
  • Each run is divided into sections. First section is plain running for about 3km.
  • Next section is 3 mins fast run (not quite a sprint yet) and then 2 mins of shadowboxing while jogging
  • The final section is sprinting to the finish

Misc

  • Squat jumps
  • Burpees
  • Lunges
  • Leg raises
  • Jump punches
  • Jump twists
  • Obstacle course type tyre exercise (i have no idea what its called)
*note that all these misc exercises are done while running. This run is separate from the 10km recommended runs

Martial arts specific
This you'll have to fill in yourself because it depends on the martial art you practice. But it should be about 4-6 hours a week.

Strength
Old school boxing coaches don't agree with weight training. They say it makes you slow. I'm not sure but I still do weights because power is important

I think you'd better ask the weights guru-s here for weight exercises that focus on explosive power and endurance, not strength. Since boxing is core and footwork centric, I mainly do core exercises.
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Ok..thnx..These are very useful.. notworthy.gif

Need to ready my mental to do these things..

Oh mai~ Passion..passion..passion..and patient.. flex.gif

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post Dec 22 2011, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(aaaeye @ Dec 22 2011, 01:07 PM)
shocking.gif

Ok..thnx..These are very useful..  notworthy.gif

Need to ready my mental to do these things..

Oh mai~ Passion..passion..passion..and patient..  flex.gif
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Uh, I forgot to mention. During the 10km runs, the 3mins fast run 2 mins shadow boxing is done in a cycle. So 3-2-3-2-3-2 until the final phase where you sprint.

Also, even with all these, I'm still a fatty because I drink and smoke (too much). So diet is very important. I lost 13kg in 2 months when I regulated my food and drink. But then I started again. IMHO diet is the most difficult part.
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post Dec 23 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(hoxy @ Dec 23 2011, 12:05 AM)
When you are on the ring, it is a very lonely place..
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Truth. You, sir, know what you are talking about.
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post Dec 26 2011, 11:29 PM

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TS,i got this from some source:

What you get with the Scott Adkins Workout is a 6 day intense program that includes within it 2 high intensity cardio sessions that will keep you looking shredded (this is the secret most other mass building programs fail to target which is why you see a corresponding increase in bulk!).

Days 1/5: Legs and Shoulders

4 sets 8 repetitions (each leg) one legged barbell squat
3 sets 10 repetitions upright barbell rows
4 sets 10 repetitions kettlebell snatch
3 sets 10 repetitions barbell shoulder press
3 sets 12 repetitions jump squats
3 sets 8 repetitions (each side) bent over low pulley lateral raise
3 sets 10 repetitions barbell side lunges
Day 2/4: Chest, Back and Arms

4 sets 8 repetitions (each side) pushup rows
3 sets 10 repetitions Triceps push-downs with reverse grip
4 sets 10 repetitions cable curls lying on floor
3 sets 10 repetitions incline dumbbell press
3 sets 12 repetitions pull ups
3 sets 8 repetitions (each side) single leg deadlifts
3 sets 10 repetitions bench press close-grip
Day 3/6: High Intensity Interval Training & Core

10 minutes High Intensity Intervals on treadmill
3 sets 30 seconds plank on stability ball
3 sets of 30 seconds mountain climbers
3 sets of 10 turskish kettlebell get-up
3 sets of 10 cable crunches
3 sets of 14 bent knee hip raises
3 sets of 10 back extensions
4 sets of 12 ab twists with medicine ball or weight
10 minutes of jumping rope at variable intensity
Some Supplements That Will Help You Boost Results From The Scott Adkins Training program

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SUSaaaeye
post Dec 27 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(hoxy @ Dec 23 2011, 12:05 AM)
This kind of question pops up every once in a while...

Simple answer.

F = ma (hint: Google it if you dont understand)





No I am not a fighter. At least I dont just talk about it... I used to punch a lot until my skin at the fist tore and bleeding. Gotta love the feeling of punching. Hugely satisfying. Pang, pang, pang...

There is this Muhammad Ali's weight ball. I always want it. Throwing a heavy ball to your midsection.

Well, there is a BIG difference between training to look like a fighter and training to be like a fighter. lol

When you are on the ring, it is a very lonely place especially when you have an opponent that really want to kill you. Being a fighter is not easy... gotta respect them. We on the other hand... are just pretender that act like we know everything.
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I dunno dat equation can be used in workout training..

Be a fighter not a simple thing..especially when u face wif ur challenger.. blink.gif


QUOTE(Cable707 @ Dec 26 2011, 11:29 PM)
TS,i got this from some source:

What you get with the Scott Adkins Workout is a 6 day intense program that includes within it 2 high intensity cardio sessions that will keep you looking shredded (this is the secret most other mass building programs fail to target which is why you see a corresponding increase in bulk!).

Days 1/5: Legs and Shoulders

4 sets 8 repetitions (each leg) one legged barbell squat
3 sets 10 repetitions upright barbell rows
4 sets 10 repetitions kettlebell snatch
3 sets 10 repetitions barbell shoulder press
3 sets 12 repetitions jump squats
3 sets 8 repetitions (each side) bent over low pulley lateral raise
3 sets 10 repetitions barbell side lunges
Day 2/4: Chest, Back and Arms

4 sets 8 repetitions (each side) pushup rows
3 sets 10 repetitions Triceps push-downs with reverse grip
4 sets 10 repetitions cable curls lying on floor
3 sets 10 repetitions incline dumbbell press
3 sets 12 repetitions pull ups
3 sets 8 repetitions (each side) single leg deadlifts
3 sets 10 repetitions bench press close-grip
Day 3/6: High Intensity Interval Training & Core

10 minutes High Intensity Intervals on treadmill
3 sets 30 seconds plank on stability ball
3 sets of 30 seconds mountain climbers
3 sets of 10 turskish kettlebell get-up
3 sets of 10 cable crunches
3 sets of 14 bent knee hip raises
3 sets of 10 back extensions
4 sets of 12 ab twists with medicine ball or weight
10 minutes of jumping rope at variable intensity
Some Supplements That Will Help You Boost Results From The Scott Adkins Training program
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Another good info..will try if have sometimes.. flex.gif

 

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