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TSFLampard
post Dec 18 2011, 07:33 PM, updated 15y ago

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Is there such a thing in football using toss coin to decide whos the winner?

my team went to play a tournament call Piala Dato R.Arumugam organized by Selangor FA at SUK today. first match won 1-0, second match drew 1-1, penalty 3-3, then referee decide the winner by tossing coin. I was shocked, in my entire life i never heard b4 winner decided by tossing coin.....

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honn
post Dec 18 2011, 07:40 PM

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that's the normal Procedure....bro
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post Dec 18 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(honn @ Dec 18 2011, 07:40 PM)
that's the normal Procedure....bro
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what bullshit procedure is this.....how come they can decide winner by tossing coin?!
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post Dec 18 2011, 07:46 PM

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I thought the normal procedure is keep taking penalty until someone miss? I have seen one match where the penalty each team take goes on until the Gk.... 11th kick to decide the winner....
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post Dec 18 2011, 07:47 PM

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as i heard before they will continue with the penalty until one of the team missed

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post Dec 18 2011, 08:29 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, the official rule states that in the event of a stalemate but a winner needs to be declared... Both teams will take the penalty kick. At first 5 players from each team. If still draw, continue penalty kick until all 22 players have taken the penalty kick. If still draw, only then the winner should decided by a coin toss. But I've never heard/seen/read this (the coin toss) being implemented in real life.
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:33 PM

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It does happen sometimes..esp in small2,carnival type of tourney..
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post Dec 18 2011, 11:23 PM

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Happened once in my university. They we're playing full 90 minutes, and then move on to 2 extra time. By the time they play the penalty shootout, its already 7pm, so its getting dark. Also, the drizzling rain was turning into a heavy downpour. In the end, the winner was decided by a coin toss.
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Dec 18 2011, 08:33 PM)
Is there such a thing in football using toss coin to decide whos the winner?

my team went to play a tournament call Piala Dato R.Arumugam organized by Selangor FA at SUK today. first match won 1-0, second match drew 1-1, penalty 3-3, then referee decide the winner by tossing coin. I was shocked, in my entire life i never heard b4 winner decided by tossing coin.....
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experienced this before. my team k/o of semis after lost to coin toss. all i can say. its' happen in small level tourney espc. the carnival oriented.

the tourney i joined was a small tourney with big prize. heheh.

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post Dec 19 2011, 01:00 AM

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But doesnt it look so unfair?
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post Dec 19 2011, 01:11 AM

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Lol what's so unfair bout tossing coins?in the end you still got 50-50 chance to win.
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post Dec 19 2011, 08:09 PM

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Historically there have been alot of instances.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shoot...ation_football) under "alternatives" it is one of the reason ppl come up with alternatives to decide a match objectively.

in knock-out stages, where winners have to be decided one way or another, then last (not preferred of cos) method would obviously be by chance eg coin toss.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Tie_%28draw%29


Added on December 19, 2011, 8:11 pm
QUOTE(FLampard @ Dec 18 2011, 07:33 PM)
Is there such a thing in football using toss coin to decide whos the winner?

my team went to play a tournament call Piala Dato R.Arumugam organized by Selangor FA at SUK today. first match won 1-0, second match drew 1-1, penalty 3-3, then referee decide the winner by tossing coin. I was shocked, in my entire life i never heard b4 winner decided by tossing coin.....
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just curious - how come win one drew one still have to take penalty kicks?

or u referring to a league format and the results is not home/away but between different teams? hmm

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post Dec 19 2011, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(chcher @ Dec 19 2011, 08:09 PM)
Historically there have been alot of instances.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shoot...ation_football) under "alternatives" it is one of the reason ppl come up with alternatives to decide a match objectively.

in knock-out stages, where winners have to be decided one way or another, then last (not preferred of cos) method would obviously be by chance eg coin toss.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Tie_%28draw%29


Added on December 19, 2011, 8:11 pm

just curious - how come win one drew one still have to take penalty kicks?

or u referring to a league format and the results is not home/away but between different teams? hmm
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no points, first game is knock out match oredi. all the way.
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post Dec 20 2011, 04:32 PM

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probably happen in carnival -oriented tournament. heavy rain, no time to proceed the final, etc.

if im the organizer, i divide the prize equally to both finalist. if its involving (small individual) trophies, i /sponsor keep it for next year, or both sides share the (big /sponsored) trophy for equal duration.. declare both teams are joint -winner..

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post Dec 20 2011, 05:16 PM

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If i remember correctly, the toss coin method does valid in certain major tournaments.

As for your case, perhaps you might want to look back at the T&C stated for the tournament. I take it that the tournament is sanctioned by FAS and therefore, T&C is made clear to all participants.

Sorry to hear about your loss by toss of coin though.
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post Dec 20 2011, 06:46 PM

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so ts win or lose in coin tossing?
TSFLampard
post Dec 20 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Dec 20 2011, 06:46 PM)
so ts win or lose in coin tossing?
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if win i also wont merajuk here la. 3rd placing also draw, penalty draw, toss coin lose again.
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post Dec 20 2011, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Dec 18 2011, 08:29 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, the official rule states that in the event of a stalemate but a winner needs to be declared... Both teams will take the penalty kick. At first 5 players from each team. If still draw, continue penalty kick until all 22 players have taken the penalty kick. If still draw, only then the winner should decided by a coin toss. But I've never heard/seen/read this (the coin toss) being implemented in real life.
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what if 1 of the team have lesser on field player?
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post Dec 21 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Dec 20 2011, 09:24 PM)
what if 1 of the team have lesser on field player?
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Good question. I donno the answer. Maybe the team with lesser field players lose automatically... Hahaha. Reason, more player(s) sent off, hence poorer fairplay.
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post Dec 21 2011, 09:30 PM

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or referee kayu made mangkok decision.

 

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