What is the best pre-U to take to enter Monash Uni Sunway campus? Is it A-levels or SAM or others? Which way is cheaper other than STPM?

There is no "best".

If you are able to get sufficiently good results for A Levels, then A Levels would be appropriate. If you could do that for SAM, SAM would be appropriate and so on.

The cheapest way is to get a full scholarship to do Pre-U (not as common but still possible).

The cheapest I believe is through A lvl in TARC. But the easiest way to enter should be MUFY.

Australian universities are very flexible on accepting pre-u qualifications. It doesn't matter if you take STPM/A-Level/SAM etc. as long as you have the results.
If you want it to be cheap other than STPM then you'll be looking at the pre-u with 1 year durations though you can't say they are cheap but there are places around with more affordable prices if you shop around.
What is "cheap" for you?

The easiest way to enter would probably be MUFY...which is deemed to be one of the most easiest Pre-U course out there compared to SAM/A-levels/STPM.

MUFY or monash college... but is it the best? i wouldnt say so.. i took mufy and believe it is overpriced

i would recommend SAM at taylors instead... do not do a-lvls cause it will take up more of ur time

either SAM/CIMP/AUSMAT... 1 year pre-u courses

Once I went there asking them is taking MUFY will be granted privilege over other pre-Us? But they told me no... its fair and square to all the pre-Us and yea so there is no simple methods to get in. YOu still have to work hard in any of the pre-U to get in.

I still don't get this MUFY-guaranteed placement in Monash if grades are met thing.

Fristly, how difficult is it to get into Monash normally? It's not Harvard. Are you in such a bad shape that you need something like this to make sure you get into a normal average university?


Secondly, if you're so scared that you won't do well in any other pre-u to get into Monash, so much so that you are choosing a program that explicitly guarantees placement at the provider school, you should be asking yourself if you could survive in university or more importantly, is going to university the right decision?

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exactly, Monash is not hard to get in to begin with.

The best option is to take a one year course beginning in Jan and ending in November. You will be able to get into Monash by next Feb, thus saving any "redundant" period.

The only setback is that places may have been fully taken up before your results are out, unless you are one of the top scorers and you are more or less "guaranteed" a place.

Monash is easy to get in but nobody can say its easy to get out

These days Monash r 4 rich brats

no matter how cheap u want 2 go in

i suggest u 2 go 2 public uni 4 god sake if u want cheap

anyway monash overrated n expensive uni

Where are the places fully taken up? Are you referring to MUFY or SAM or some other courses?

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Added on December 13, 2011, 11:33 amWhich among SAM/CIMP/AUSMAT do you recommend and why?

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Added on December 13, 2011, 11:35 amLooking for cheaper alternatives compared to A-Levels, which is above 20k right? My budget is max 10k.

This post has been edited by PradaLee: Dec 13 2011, 11:35 AM

With 10k budget you might as well do stpm or go tar do a levels

The best way to enter Monash Malaysia is probably MUFY. But that may not be the most wise way of getting into other universities.

That's the same for all legit universities. Monash is not unique.
I'm assuming that 'get out' means graduate successfully with a degree.


Budget max 10k? Well 15-20 years ago, that would be enough for SAM/CPU at Taylor's. Today if you want to only spend just 10k in the klang valley, you would have to go to TARC to do A-levels or STPM.
You could do some chop palang no name/no brand program(which could be less than 10k) from some small private college but if you are aiming to get into Monash or elsewhere, it's best to stick to SAM/CPU/A-levels/STPM.

RM10k??

better do STPM... =D

do note that if you score lots of a+ in spm, there are scholarships, where you can get variable amount of waiver of fees..... for example, if you get 10a+, it is a virtual complete waiver in taylor's.....it gets less stringent as you go down the pecking order of pre-u colleges....

agree, they suck you dry and kick you out if you're not their material
one way of how to filter out the undeserving is by having high tuition fees... and to offer scholarship for high achievers
if you have no $$$ and no brains then go somewhere else
highly recommend SAM, knowledge at the right cost
agree...

Hi,

May I know your basis for recommending SAM since you took MUFY? Also, are you in Monash now and how is the uni? Understand that one will lose a year if he/she takes A-level but besides that, any other pros and cons for A-levels?

Pros:

You learn stuff which are much more detailed compared to SAM/MUFY

Cons:

Time consuming
Does not prepare you for assignments

Hi zstan,

Would appreciate what you mean by "more detailed". I am interested in the finance and accounting courses. In what way is A level more detailed? Does this help in getting a degree later in Monash? Does this help later in working life?

In your personal opinion, which route would you choose and why? Referring to getting an accounting and finance degree from Monash.

Lose a year? Does Monash not have a mid year intake? Or will they only allow you to register after you have results (in which case you "lose" several months, but not a year).

A Level pros are they can be used virtually anywhere (sometimes SATs are needed because NUS is picky, and good American schools want it) and are very rigorous.

Obvious cons are length, difficulty, lack of graded research essays (if any Pre-U has these, it would be a big advantage).

For Finance and Accounting, I don't believe A Levels will give you any advantage in terms of knowledge. But it will help in at least one way, as it is exams-only, and university (Finance and Accounting) will have a lot of final exams.

They do have a July intake but you'll need your results before you'll be able to enrol.
Monash Sunway however also have a special August intake to cater to A-level students and the like.
http://www.monash.edu.my/advancement/pso/a...take/index.html
It's possible by just taking two subjects during your first semester and then two more during the summer semester catching up with the July intake and going on as everybody else the next year.

Monash has mid year intake for all courses except those under the faculty of medicine and health sciences.

The "elite" Accounting and Finance degree course in Monash has got only one intake in February and its entrance requirements are quite high and I think, they have only one class for it.

The other Accounting and Finance courses has both Feb and July/ August intakes.

after SPM, i went to NS for 3 months and finished in March, went straight into CPU in Taylors for March intake, and went into Monash next year. Like most have said, MUFY is a good start to get into Monash, but it's not that important. Just get average-->above average grades and have enough $$$.

10k for pre-u is not enough btw. I did mine in 2006 and even then it cost me about 13-14k.


This post has been edited by Patchy: Dec 14 2011, 05:28 PM

As someone else mention, if one already worries about getting in Monash, you should be worrying about whether you can survive in Monash. I know a many people that were getting pretty good results in other local private uni. So they used their results and manage to get into Monash but few of them drop out cause they couldn't cope up or something.

Getting into Monash is pretty easy I would say. I did AUSMAT and had no problem getting in at all. All the friends that I know who did MUFY had no problem as well. MUFY is definitely more expensive the last time I checked.

As for courses intake and stuff, it's best you go there and talk to their course consultant personally. They'll know what fits you best.

That's what many people say. And a lot say Melbourne Uni is hard to get in but easy to get out.

Why did u do CPU instead of MUFY? Was it because you were late for the MUFY intake? Previously someone said MUFY is not worth the money and better to do SAM. I thought that the best and direct way is to take MUFY but if SAM offers a better course, I do not mind that as well. At the same time, I am also afraid of "losing out" by not taking A-levels because the course content might be helpful in the future. BTW, I am looking at Bachelor of Commerce(Accounting). This is all too confusing and hope to get further opinions.

Regarding the course fees, I have checked that they can range from 20+k to 30+k. More than I expected but still within grasp. Now is the decision on which path.

Interesting. What is this elite degree and how is it different?

What's the difference between AUSMAT and SAM?

AUSMAT = Australian Matriculation Program
SAM = South Australian Matriculation

Ok, which is better or more popular?

I'm guessing he's talking about their Bachelor of Commerce programme that's only available in their clayton campus if I'm not mistaken. That has a reasonably high entry requirement.
Monash has three business undergraduate programmes if I'm not mistaken. Bachelor of Commerce in Clayton, Bachelor of Business in caufield and Bachelor of Business & Commerce which is offered in every other campus including the Sunway campus (the entry requirement for this is lower than the other two and it only requires year 11 math instead of year 12 math as a pre-requisite unlike the other two).
I guess you can go to the Monash website and have a look at their programme structures.

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Added on December 14, 2011, 6:15 pmIt's basically almost the same thing. They are all basically Australia year 12.
SAM students basically sit for the South Australian Certificate of Education (SACE) while Ausmat students sit for the Western Australian Certificate of Education (WACE). There's is also the HSC in INTI where you will sit for the New South Wales Higher School Certificate. SAM is available in a few places like Taylor's and INTI while Ausmat is also available in a few places like Sunway and KBU. There's also some others but those are the ones I can think of.
There's not much difference in what you learn between them and all universities treat them the same even in Australia where they only look at your ATAR score and ignore which state the qualification comes from.

This post has been edited by Hikari0307: Dec 14 2011, 06:15 PM

As Hikari0307 said, it's basically the same thing just different papers.
In the end, the final score that you get and which is required to enter Monash is the same thing.

When I did Ausmat in Sunway, the prices were cheaper than Taylor's SAM. My whole reason to do Ausmat was because Taylor college (SAM) was in SS15 that time and parking would be horrible while I have a unit in Lagoon View which is directly next to Sunway. Course fee was around 14k if not mistaken.

One simple reason - CPU is 70% assignment based and 30% exam based. I hate cramming for exams and do much better in assignments. Incidentally college was the best times of my study life and I scored the best results there.

For that same reason A-levels was totally out of my options because 1) it takes 1 and 1/2 years and 2) it's 100% exams. Aussie system is 50/50 I believe?

Don't worry about "losing-out" in terms of content. Every course will have pros and cons - I know I've done many projects and presentations that others have never had to do. you can still afford to have fun in college; Uni is when you need to do things properly. =D

SAM is 70:30 now though rather than a lot of projects like CPU, a lot of marks are still from a number of tests.