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TScattledecap
post Dec 10 2011, 12:01 AM, updated 14y ago

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As the title says...
i was talking to my bike shop owner today...
i took my krr 150 to get burnt sparkplug fixed...
i mentioned my admiration of the gixxer 600-750.
He said 'take the Yamaha XJR bro, the spare part and resale value of gixxer is badddd......'
So, may i ask the experts, which CBU (this excludes some kawasakis and yamaha xjr 600...) superbikes (more than 500cc) have the (i)best resale value, with (ii)widespread cheap parts availability in malaysia?
thanks for your input...
(ps - by CBU i want to mean from japan/italy/usa) - thailand only builds below 500cc bikes....rite?)
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post Dec 10 2011, 12:07 AM

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dun think bike will have good resale price ,
just get the best bike and go with it

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post Dec 10 2011, 01:20 AM

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Yamaha and Honda has the best resale value. Problem is that this CBU big bikes are parallel imported - but I believe there are plans for both Yamaha and Honda to bring this bikes in.

People say that Suzuki is rank the lowest in resale value for big bikes when you line the big 4 japanese makers together. Honestly, I find that perhaps not many people are favourable of Suzuki big bikes. Personally, I really like the looks of the K9 GSXR 750 & 1000.

As for parts availability - I only own Kawasaki bikes and its my 2nd bike now. Cant say if it is a fool proof method to get parts for the other makers. But most people would say this shop has it, that shop has it and etc etc.
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post Dec 10 2011, 01:22 AM

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from my observation, best resale value should be Honda..
but for sparepart i think Kawasaki since they have Kawasaki Sunrock here in Msia..
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post Dec 10 2011, 01:33 AM

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But why have everyone forgotten ducati - ok price is rm 150-200k, (volvo price...) but with NAZA backing and progressing sales, if not spare parts, then 2nd hand value should be good?
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post Dec 10 2011, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(cattledecap @ Dec 10 2011, 12:01 AM)
As the title says...
i was talking to my bike shop owner today...
i took my krr 150 to get burnt sparkplug fixed...
i mentioned my admiration of the gixxer 600-750.
He said 'take the Yamaha XJR bro, the spare part and resale value of gixxer is badddd......'
So, may i ask the experts, which CBU (this excludes some kawasakis and yamaha xjr 600...) superbikes (more than 500cc) have the (i)best resale value, with (ii)widespread cheap parts availability in malaysia?
thanks for your input...
(ps - by CBU i want to mean from japan/italy/usa) - thailand only builds below 500cc bikes....rite?)
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first of all you must understand the different between CBU and CKD
from my understanding CBU (Complete Build Unit) were shop/importer import them in a "complete physical bike" hence tax is much higher...
but who do you think manufacture kawasaki er6/verys(650cc) for asian market??it's being produce and manufactured by kawasaki thailand....
but kawasaki malaysia import it as CKD (Complete Knock Down) where they will assemble it back in kawasaki factory here....
though i'm not pretty sure as they assemble it completely or the just maybe take down those fairing and maybe wheels and declare it as CKD hence to make the tax much lower@cheaper.... tongue.gif

before Hong Leong Yamaha introduce XJ6 in malaysia market...
earlier there already some XJ6 (CBU) unit sold by NAZA and other importer....
but the downside is RESALE value....
as they are completely the same bike....do you think CBU unit will be sold much higher than CKD unit for 2nd hand value??? brows.gif

as currently what i heard that honda and kawasaki had slowly begun to build more higher capasity of bike in their thailand factory to cater for asian market.....rumors said that honda will build 400cc bike in their thailand factory....
which model is still unknown.... sweat.gif

as for know i think if you looking for superbike above 500cc...
and wanted for BEST RESALE VALUE...you deffinately can't go wrong with either this 2 model....
CBR600 or YZF R6....
this two model is the most in demand for malaysia market....
but kawasaki ZX-6R also not bad lar.....as one forummer said...it's much EASIER to get their parts as they were sold directly by kawasaki malaysia and their bike also not bad in resale value.... thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by budakdegilz: Dec 10 2011, 02:00 AM
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post Dec 11 2011, 06:42 PM

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Just met with Aprilia Shiver 750. Selling for 56KMYR from Naza.

dang! Its an Aprilia! Gives me a shiver seeing it in flesh with huge white paper saying 'Call for Best Price'..

I'd take ZX6R since spare parts is pretty much easier to source me thinks.
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post Dec 13 2011, 12:16 PM

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-so if CBU bikes means built in thailand...
-how to get CBU made in japan bikes? - the spare parts would be same as asian made bikes i assume.
-you say CBU-CKD almost same --> i agree for made in malaysia vs made in thailand, but made in japan - i believe that makes a difference.
-i just read in another thread about Ducati's spare part prices... rclxub.gif
-for now gixxer 600 still my next target...unless someone can convince me otherwise...
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post Dec 13 2011, 12:35 PM

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post Dec 14 2011, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(cattledecap @ Dec 13 2011, 12:16 PM)
-so if CBU bikes means built in thailand...
-how to get CBU made in japan bikes? - the spare parts would be same as asian made bikes i assume.
-you say CBU-CKD almost same --> i agree for made in malaysia vs made in thailand, but made in japan - i believe that makes a difference.-i just read in another thread about Ducati's spare part prices... rclxub.gif
-for now gixxer 600 still my next target...unless someone can convince me otherwise...
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CBU bike is just means that the bike is fully import in physical unit..
no matter which country it import from....
and YES...CKD and CBU are a same bike...all parts are the same
except some restriction like speed and exhaust emission depends on each country law
as to my knowledge for honda bike...
only these two model are currently assemble and build in japan which is CBR600 and CBR1000...
others model are assemble according to each region dan market...

p/s:
GSXR600 indeed are very sexy bike... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 15 2011, 03:57 PM

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The ducati looks cool - but i'm more into sports bikes.
before jumping into gsxr 600, i might do a stopover with the 250s.....ninja vs cbr250...hond is good except the ugggly look-if honda could just stop producing the annoying rabbit looking bikes vmad.gif ...did chris bangle join them after bmw?
anyway my ninja 150 keeps stopping while idling if choke not max...if choke max the spark plug apparently gets spoiled -anyway just changed sparkplug.
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post Dec 15 2011, 06:21 PM


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wtf is that lol
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post Dec 15 2011, 06:32 PM

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obviously a rabbit isnt it? a CBR it must be.
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post Dec 15 2011, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(cattledecap @ Dec 15 2011, 03:57 PM)
The ducati looks cool - but i'm more into sports bikes.
before jumping into gsxr 600, i might do a stopover with the 250s.....ninja vs cbr250...hond is good except the ugggly look-if honda could just stop producing the annoying rabbit looking bikes vmad.gif ...did chris bangle join them after bmw?
anyway my ninja 150 keeps stopping while idling if choke not max...if choke max the spark plug apparently gets spoiled -anyway just changed sparkplug.
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anyway new honda cbr250r doesn't have a "rabbit" look.. tongue.gif
the head light design is more towards current vfr design which is Y-shape...

have to bring your bike to another workshop...
try to check for carburetor setting..
because from your story..
it seem just like the problem is from ratio mixture of fuel & air (maybe it's mixture too lean or too rich)
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post Dec 15 2011, 10:16 PM

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srsly guys, whats the matter with honda? soichiro said 'racing improves the breed'...and they still make very reliable bikes.
But of late, they seem to just not care. Maybe i should start facebook petition for honda to change to better designs - even 2001-2005 designs are better i think. Send their designers to train at ducati/mv augusta. Or why don't honda pay money to this tamburini feller to design something since honda is so rich?
anyway the motor mags are saying that there has been a shift of power in superbike world now - back to the europeans: bmws1000rr, ducatis, aprilia ktm...
I'll probably try new workshop - if it keeps annoying me, i might buy the rabbit and try to put repsol color or strip it down - i dunno. kawa not making me happy at 150, how to go for 250 - which some say efi, some say carb (honda 250 definitely reliable efi)
And i hope yamaha comes out with a decent 250 to dethrone the ninja as honda has failed (due to looks mainly...). I rather ride an owl rather than the rabbit.
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post Dec 15 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Dec 15 2011, 04:49 PM)
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Honda must be real reliable machine because they have nothing to look at...
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(cattledecap @ Dec 15 2011, 10:16 PM)
srsly guys, whats the matter with honda? soichiro said 'racing improves the breed'...and they still make very reliable bikes.
But of late, they seem to just not care. Maybe i should start facebook petition for honda to change to better designs - even 2001-2005 designs are better i think. Send their designers to train at ducati/mv augusta. Or why don't honda pay money to this tamburini feller to design something since honda is so rich?
anyway the motor mags are saying that there has been a shift of power in superbike world now - back to the europeans: bmws1000rr, ducatis, aprilia ktm...
I'll probably try new workshop - if it keeps annoying me, i might buy the rabbit and try to put repsol color or strip it down - i dunno. kawa not making me happy at 150, how to go for 250 - which some say efi, some say carb (honda 250 definitely reliable efi)
And i hope yamaha comes out with a decent 250 to dethrone the ninja as honda has failed (due to looks mainly...). I rather ride an owl rather than the rabbit.
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I have personally met Shinya Iwakura san, the former executive director & chief designer of honda. he is the legendary man who designed to the honda emblem, 1st gen civic, prelude, intergra, odyssey, legend and many more.

during the long meet up, i realized that they (japs) are no longer desperate in the league of horsepower/ displacement/ no. of cylinder. in fact, they are moving to the next era to harvest new sustainable energy and maximize that energy efficiency on their motor. So they are not concern if losing a few WSBK races, the are not worry about losing 0.2s over hundred meter sprint, they arent hunger for additional 5 horsepower in a liter bike. in fact they are planning for thier 50 to 100 years ahead by replacing internal combustion engine with a new motor.

ICE is an outdated technology which hasnt been changed much since invented 120years ago. instead of squeezing the last few drops of juices out of this dying breed, the japs rather spend their effort for break throught design which they can rely and survive for next decade or even century, hence.....comes the EV.

if you are aware of automotive scene, prolly you should have heard of the 100% EV nissan leaf has won the car of the year japan 2011-2012, which had been throned by ICE for 32years. it is a fact and a proved that EV is highly appreciated over ICE nowadays.

but dont mistaken me as a honda spokeman or fanboy, i have been in automotive for sometimes and i am a petrolhead that looked down on EV or hybrid. however after almost 10yrs of evolution and improvement on EV/hybrid, it proved that i was wrong. EV will become the mainstream in near future. that is why almost every jap 4-wheeled and 2-wheeled manufacturer is hitching into the EV R&D so that none will be left out when the world changed.

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post Dec 16 2011, 10:34 PM

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Yamato, i have no objections at all with electric engines - but big bikes are objects of desire and should look good - that's the least they could do - everyone knows they go fast.
Japanese can focus on any engine tech they want - but in the process i hope they don't clog the world roads with ugly looking bikes. In jam, sometimes i can at least stare at some beautiful vehicles...
honda are you listening?
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post Dec 16 2011, 10:36 PM

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post Dec 16 2011, 11:34 PM

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i too admit that rabbit isnt the best looking bike.
but how to we define beauty?

the rednecks love choppers with raised handlebar.
the teenage yankees like supersport with extended rear swingarm.
brits love cafe racers.
asian youngsters dont look at anything except sport/supersport
some may like streetfighter.
some may like cruisers.
some may like motard.
and the list goes on....

saying rabbit ugly is individual opinion, and i have no disrespect on personal preference.
but judging honda is making lousy bike just because the rabbit isnt your cup of tea is bias, dont you think so? no offense
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post Dec 17 2011, 12:43 AM

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i think beauty is generally accepted - a beautiful chopper is beautiful, even if i don't like choppers.
you might not like black haired asians - but u will agree aishwarya rai is beautiful...
you might not like blonde males, but you still agree brad pitt is good looking...
you might hate the inconvenience of sportcars, but how many say the lamborghini avantador is ugly?
there are always minorities, but i believe beauty is generally agreeable for most of the people.
basically the newer hondas are ugly, this is my politically incorrect opinion.
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:39 PM

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