QUOTE(gallantdestroyer @ Dec 9 2011, 01:42 AM)
The problem is i have an business in mind... As an entrepreneur....
I do not dare to even think what will happen if this law enforce and all the step require to run a small basic business... aih...
Same here entrepreneur mindset.
QUOTE(satnam182 @ Dec 9 2011, 02:50 AM)
Screw this shit. You can't even think/sketch/build a prototype/discuss/or even email your friend about this new app idea you have if this bill goes live. If you're a developer and you love what you're doing. Then you should be at MOSTI's office on Tuesday to oppose this bill. This is about any political party or any political agenda. It's just that there some really idiot people in the goverment who thinks that they're right about everything.
Added on December 9, 2011, 2:53 amI'm a college dropout and I took up coding as a hobby and it's now my profession. If I had to go through our tertiary university studies to learn how to code, I'd be coding using .NET or Java right now. Those languages are bloody dead or are dying, we don't teach languages that people will use. I only see couple of students from Uni that actually took their own initiative to learn Rails or jQuery and they are the ones that normally gets hired by startups in other country or they are the ones that starts their own startup and become somebody that actually contributes to Malaysian's GDP.
Sometimes the best coders/designers comes from self-taught, passion & experience, and not from classroom.If classroom style had worked, then all IT grads MUST be pro in what they do.
But is that the case?
Imagine this bill was passed during the start up time of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg.QUOTE(satnam182 @ Dec 9 2011, 03:20 AM)
http://www.facebook.com/events/205572512858664/I did a Dip in Business Economics in KTAR. Took programming as a hobby to edit HTML/CSS for Friendster profiles and then moved to PHP. Dropped out the second year and never looked back.
Passion & initiative will always prevail.
QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Dec 9 2011, 08:35 AM)
My reasons for opposing are this:
1. I am against a law that forces people to only hire a member of a certain body.
2. Let the body exist and certify the IT people that wants to join it, but let the industry determine the value of the body and its members through free trade. If the members are less capable than the non-members, then don't hire them. In this way, if the body's certification and membership are of any use, industry will tend to hire them and not others.
3. Producing software is not like medicine or architecture that is a matter of life and death. Certain industries that require better software people (i.e. airlines, military, parts of wireless communication) already have more rigorous hiring process and another certification will not make a difference to them; they trust in their own hiring people, not a piece of paper. Lay people can also produce software, like writing a book, and there should not be a law to stop them from doing so. Even non-accountants can fill up their own tax forms. Are you looking forward to the day when only accountants can fill up tax forms, painters association members can paint your house, writers association can type your emails etc.?
This hit home exactly!
IT is different from law and medicine or architecture.
IT can be found in everyday life and be accessed by All levels of society, as compared to law and medicine or architecture.
QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Dec 9 2011, 08:54 AM)
That is one of the objective
By whom the salary will be paid?
SMEs?, start ups? Big Companies? Government?
SMEs?, start ups - They rather hire someone who is a dropped out but can delivery, as compared to a fresh IT grad that doesn't have the experience.
I know some people who are so good in whatever they do that, the cert is not necessary at all.
Big Companies - Can pay big bucks but how many people can Intel/Dell/Microsoft hire?
Government - to create another Myemail, Mywebsite, Myfoot is it?
Bottomline - This Bill discourage Entrepreneurship & Passion driven people from being creative.
Since when IT is not based on passion to create & think outside the box?This post has been edited by elblink: Dec 9 2011, 09:13 AM