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jerryng75
post Jan 23 2013, 09:10 PM

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Hi All,

For Sky Light or Awning, use Lexan* Twin Wall, Grade Recommended is Lexan* 10mm Thickness Solar Control IR, Light Green in Color

In the 1960s, NASA used Lexan* Brand Polycarbonate for Astronaut helmet assemblies and visors which became known as "bubble helmets", including those used by the Apollo moon astronauts.

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Advantages
1) 2 Wall , Better Heat Insulation
2) Lower Cost
3) Reduce 30% Heat
4) 2 Side UV Resistant Coating ( Generally, Polycarbonate is NOT Chemical Resistant. Can be printed as label, example laptop Battery uses Polycarbonate FR Film as Label)
5) Impact Resistance. Virtually Un-Breakble Youtube has many Video on the Impact Test
6) 10 year Warranty - Against Yellowing ( yellow Index Not more than 2, which naked Eyes can see)
- Against Impact ( Drilled Holes Failure not Warrant)
- Against Lost of Light Transmission
7) Light Transmission - More than 65%
8) Coated PolyCarbonate ( Lexan* Own Coating which was Developed in-house)

More Details

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexan

http://www.sabic-ip.com/sfs/SFS/en/Product...ntrolsheet.html

Dust or Fungus will grow in the Slot but that can be eliminate if you get a Good Contractor.
Use Anti - Dust tape, which will allow the Water to Vaporize and 'Flow' out through the Special Membrane in the Anti-Dust Tape
It will prevent Water from Sipping in and Grow Fungus

Many Stadium are Built from Multi-Wall Sheet , which also uses the Anti-Dust Tape ( Do a Search for Anti-Dust tape)
Examples :

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Material Cost for Lexan* 10mm Thickness Solar Control IR, Light Green in Color is approximately RM 6.80/square feet.
Note That The Structure is more Costlier that the Roofing Material.

To be Sure, Call the manufacturer for a Claim ( Some Manufacturer also claim give 10 years Warranty). Ask them to visit you. You can judge the product by their Services
Give them the Lot No ( Date of Manufacturing or Purchasing Agents for Verification).

Another Option is to use 6 mm Lexan* Solid Sheet. Same Warranty .
6mm will not be break by an Axe & and will not deform from heat ( 3 mm thick Polycarbonate will Wave on hot Days)



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post Jan 25 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 25 2013, 05:43 PM)
anyone got suggestions how to reduce noisiness of polycarbonate awning during rain ar?
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Hi,

Lexan Solar Control IR 10 mm thick, would have 20dB on Sound Reduction

Thicker would give you a Lower Sound.

Wall partition uses 2-Wall ( Twin Wall) or 3 Wall which reduce Sound

Solid Sheet Lexan* ( usually 15 mm) is widely use in Oversea Countries ( Europe, America, Japan) as SOUND WALL in the Highway
This give a better view for the Resident Instead of BLANK Walls in Malaysia

Info from the Web shows

Solid Sheet Lexan*, 6 mm 29dB on Sound Reduction
Solid Sheet Lexan*, 8 mm 31dB on Sound Reduction
Solid Sheet Lexan*, 12 mm 34dB on Sound Reduction


What type of Polycarbonate are you using? Solid or Multi Wall

jerryng75
post Jan 26 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(lingkin @ Jan 25 2013, 11:59 PM)
Anybody use this type of Awning?
Seem like seldom ppl use this Membrance Awning for their house but seee quite often at outside shop or public place..
Any pro & con if use for house? Does it pratical?
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Hi,

It looks very nice , however, you need to design the Structure carefully
Someone once tried to use this type on the cafe beside the Condo Swimming Pool. Less than One Hour after the Installation, it was blown off .
Wind Load is a main concern for this as well.

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post Jan 26 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 26 2013, 01:21 AM)
LOL  thumbup.gif  but wanna let cool air when raining to enter d house mah
wads solid wall n multiwall?
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Multi Wall Sheet is

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Solid is like a Glass ( But, Virtually Un-Breakable)

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post Jan 26 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 26 2013, 09:59 AM)
Locally,  most Contractor user one thickness.  And the problem will be fading and noisy.
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Hi

Everyone need to Survive. More Margin . Hit and Run Business

I wanted to have a Clear Roof in my Car Porch, but Contractor told me Every 3 years need to Change
No Way I Will pay Every 3 years for a Clear Roof

So End up I waited another 2 years before I found this Lexan* Grade

Fading ? You Mean Yellowing?
From the Web site , They mention
' Lexan Thermoclear Plus offers a ten year limited written warranty against discoloration, loss of light transmission and loss of impact strength due to weathering with superior conditions compared to competitive products.'
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post Jan 26 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 26 2013, 10:49 AM)
Good to know now have more option.  I am looking for awning, what is the per sqft? Looking to comoare with tempted glass
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You will have a few Choice

Lower Cost - Twin Wall - Get 10 mm thick Lexan Solar Control IR , Best in this Class
6 mm Thick one doesn't look Good

Higher Cost . Solid Lexan, 6mm , Un-breakable , even by an Axes
Anything Lower than 6 mm is not advisable due to Waviness during Hot Sunny Day
Paying for Safety here

Glass ?

Get At Least - Laminated Glass ( Tempered Glass )
Glass will have Spontaneous Breaking ( Unless you willing to pay for Heat Soaked Tempered Glass, which High Rise uses)
Once they Break, The Lamination will hold it and not Drop Immediately. so You are Safe
Don't Get Float Glass. Too Dangerous


Critical Note

Polycarbonate is HALF the Weight of a Glass
12 mm Glass Can be Replace by 6mm Lexan SOLID. Which make the Weigh is A Quarter of the Weigh of Glass.
Conclusion is The Structure for Polycarbonate is much Lighter and LOWER Cost

Anyhow,
Workmanship + Structure = 70% of your Payment
Material = Only 30% of your Payment



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post Jan 26 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2013, 11:16 AM)
During raining where got cool air lah.  All the hot moisture raise. After raining than open the door. It damn noisy till I  can't watch tv.

Another problem is, after longtime it will britter abit. Some damn cat always jump down and like to land on my poly sheet. After sometime some poly sheet brick and fall down.
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Hi Ozak,

I think you purchased an Un-Coated Polycarbonate ( Which is NOT Chemical Resistant)
Transparent Plastics allow Light, UV & IR to pass through ( Your Car Dash Board is NOT Transparent, therefore, with UV Retardant, it will not spoils after many years)
However, UV Retardant will not work with Transparent Plastics
UV will Damage all material, even your White Shirt will turn yellow

Your Case is like below Photos right?

Breakage?

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Yellowing?

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You need to replace that.
Replace with a 10mm Twin-Wall, Better Heat Insulation, More Beautiful & Less Noise compare to 6mm
Advise : 10 mm Lexan Solar Control IR ( Hollow Type)
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 26 2013, 06:03 PM)
yeah i hate when  cats do tht,then shit all over hse compound.so noisy until cant watch tv?!tht's so sien sad.gif
r u a user or retailer for this lexan sheet?
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I'm an User for Lexan* 10mm, Solar Control IR

House is Bright. Not Hot

No worries for 'Lumut' or Water



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post Jan 26 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jan 26 2013, 08:20 PM)
is there a showroom for this lexan ar?btw lexan is d brand's nname rite
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Please refer to SABIC SFS

Petaling Street
Columbia Hospital , Kota Kamuning
Haven, Ipoh

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post Jan 27 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 26 2013, 11:18 PM)
I will prefer tempered glass over laminated. Laminated are weak, and easy break compare to tempered. I have bad experience on Laminated, even the broken glass are not falling, but still some pieces do drop and is very sharp.
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Tempered Glass = 1 pieces
Laminated = 2 pieces
Laminated Tempered Glass = 2 pieces
Hybrid Laminated = 1 Pieces Float + 1 pieces Laminated

Theoretically When Tempered Glass Breaks, it's not sharp ( Maybe Process not Complete)
It should breaks nto Millions of pieces

I still think 1 pieces Laminate Glass is risky
All the above combination will have the risk of spontaneous Breaking. No Idea When.

For Safety get Laminated Tempered Glass = 2 pieces
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post Jan 27 2013, 02:11 PM

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Bro

Check out thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=57851972


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post Jan 27 2013, 05:39 PM

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Glass Door usually not Installed Directly Under the Sun, Where there is a Prolong Heat & Cold.
That's why there are less easy to break.
My Office Tempered Glass Door Broke twice due to Accidentally Knocked Hard

For Roofing it's a different case

You could go for Tempered Glass. Their Chemical Resistant is the Among Best. Mean that Unless It Break, It will last forever

Setback is It's expensive & Hot

Note that You still have to Clean if ofter & Repair the Silicone to prevent water leaking
Never Skip Maintenance, ya !!

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post Jan 28 2013, 11:00 AM

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Choose Lexan 10 mm Solar Control IR Twin Wall

Reason : See video below ( Yes price also Cheaper Compare to solid 3 mm)



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post Jan 28 2013, 12:16 PM

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Now, below show why 6 mm is better than 3 mm For Roofing



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post Feb 20 2013, 01:49 AM

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Hi ,

Check out this Live demo of Lexan* Solar Control IR



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post Sep 12 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Jul 12 2013, 10:37 AM)
Hi Jerry,

You so gung-ho about this lexan, can you advice what is the per sqft price after adding labour, structure and material.
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Hi,

I'm not a Contractor

But The Plastics is 25 ~ 30 % of the Total cost They Charged me (Maybe Lower too)
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post Sep 26 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(BeeB88 @ Sep 25 2013, 05:13 PM)
Can I ask, do we need to install gutter for polycarbonate awning?
Reason I'm asking is because one contractor quoted me that, while the other did not.
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Bro,

do a Gutter.

You can do it yourself if you want to cut cost

During Rain you will know why.

Do a Hinge every 3 feet. Or they will warp and water will flow OUT !!
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post Sep 26 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(timelime @ Sep 25 2013, 01:11 PM)
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hi, does any sifu here know anything about this type of roof? what is it name? Is it expensive(around how much per square foot)?
It seems to me slick and simple, I would like to install this for my balcony if the price is affordable for me.

Anyone here can introduce contractor who can do this?

thanks in advance, cheers.
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Bro, when you do yours, go for simplicity.

The Design is more than what you need
But...Your the boss, you decide

Please refer to SABIC SFS

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post Sep 27 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ken.lee1 @ Sep 26 2013, 11:07 PM)
sorry, i am unsure what is gutter purpose?
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Gutter

The main purpose of a rain gutter is to protect a building's foundation by channeling water away from its base. The gutter also helps to reduce erosion, prevents leaks in basements and crawlspaces, protects painted or stained surfaces by reducing exposure to water and provides a means to collect rainwater for later use.

When it rains, You will have to run through Larger Drop of Water from the roof ( If no gutter)

Erosion( Holes) will appear if no gutter
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Sep 27 2013, 02:02 AM)
i have some stupid pigeons going into my roof sad.gif
i am wondering how can get rid off them.. anyone have good contacts that dun cost a bomb?
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Hi, Climb up the roof and block all the holes.

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