Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Awning, Lets Talk:Wooden,Metal,PC,RoofTilesGlass

views
     
jerryng75
post Sep 28 2013, 12:24 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Sep 27 2013, 11:09 PM)
Skylight polycarbonate (modern) tongue.gif
*
Your The Boss.

Do you need light into your house?
Go For Lexan Solar Control IR, which reduce 30% Heat Compare to other Grade in the Market, with Warranty
Check out the Old Posting

If you need NOT Light, go for Metal Type, As thick as possible ( You may need to climb up there one day)
I'm using Metal for my Wet Kitchen.

Emboss Polycarbonate is one Layer, 2.6 mm thick only
If you choose Solid Type, better go for 6 mm, which is Un-Breakable with Axe

Twin-Wall is 2 layer ( which Insulate Heat better) and Lower Cost.
jerryng75
post Sep 29 2013, 12:52 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 29 2013, 08:48 AM)
If choos dark color later color will lighter?
*
It Will,,,, But depend on the Brand you Choose

Polycarbonate is NOT Chemical Resistant..

Your Washing Machine, Microwave label are Printed on Polycarbonate.
The Color stick to it so good...

Get Coated Polycarbonate for your Outdoor Skyroof.. with Warranty Against Yellowing ( so It won't Change Color)
jerryng75
post Sep 29 2013, 01:02 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Sep 28 2013, 02:29 PM)
my contractor advise, don't choose light color. Reason - "bird shit" will turn from beautiful to ugly. unless you so hard working to climb up every day and wash. tongue.gif
*
We want Light to comes below, so Choose Poly Carbonate
If go for Darker Color, Better get Steel, Cheaper and no need to maintain.

Brighter House has less Mosquito and Good Feng Shui





jerryng75
post Sep 29 2013, 01:07 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Sep 29 2013, 09:50 AM)
that one future only think. Who's know?
by that time, all bird shit already full on top to add another layer.
I pity those that do glass. Look elegant and nice. But with bird shit...ewww.... (more cleaning)

You probably demolish and rebuild a new one. tongue.gifc
*
Bro..Having a SkyRoof is Not Cheap

For the Sake of Green, At least use for more than 10 years.
Batu Tiga Stadiums is more than 10 years before they try to Change ( Not successful I guess, They replace bit by bit)

Workmanship + Steel = 70 ~ 75%
Roof ( Polycarbonate) = 25 ~ 30%

I purposely bought my Roof separately as the Contractor Say they don't offer the one I want.
So End up I pay high price.

But, I ain't changing roof for at least 10 Years

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Sep 29 2013, 01:13 PM
jerryng75
post Sep 29 2013, 09:37 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 29 2013, 04:33 PM)
Roughly how much coated per sf?
*
My material price was RM 7.50 per Sq Ft ( For Coated + Reduce Heat Grade & about 60% Light Transmission). Since it's Brand is good, I'm need not Worry
You can get Cheaper Type, but Make Sure you get a Written 10 years warranty ( You can claim them when they turn yellow, break for natural cause & Blurr Out)

jerryng75
post Oct 31 2013, 09:48 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013



ALWAYS TAKE NOTE : POLYCARBONATE " CHEMICAL RESISTANCE " is POOR . Get "Coated" Polycarbonate for Long Lasting





jerryng75
post Feb 9 2014, 04:08 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(kokmengng @ Feb 9 2014, 01:31 PM)
Guys,

Do you think there is such thing as tinted polycarbonate skylight or any way i can apply tint on polycarbonate skylight? Reason being i like the sun light coming thru but not the heat. Tempered glass skylight is not an option due to budget constraint.

Thank you in advance for your comment/feedback. Cheers.
*
Hi Kok Meng,

yes, You can add tinted Film unto Polycarbonate.
I've seen people did that

or

Get what I use for myself.
This Lexan Solar control IR reduce 30% Heat compare to any other Grade in the market. with Warranty Longer than Tinted film.



jerryng75
post Feb 9 2014, 06:53 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(kokmengng @ Feb 9 20146:45 PM)
Hi Jerry,

Mind to share the price/sqft on this product? Also, any recommended dealer or reseller on Lexan's polycarbonate?
*
You can contact Andy Tan @ 018 290 4575

He can give you more details

jerryng75
post Feb 23 2014, 04:53 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(MonsterPips @ Feb 23 2014, 04:33 PM)
if i want to put awning at the backyard, want to use it as clothes drying area,but want to cover the perimeter between the awning and the wall.

i saw some houses put grillles, thats make looks like a store. need something that allows air and sunlight to go through. yet secure from break in

my idea is brick wall at the bottom and a transparent awning at the top. but missing the material in between.

any suggestion?a picture will be nice
*
I did Wet Kitchen for my house.

Used Metal Deck( roof) with 4 feet Transparent Plastic for Sunlight( already Turned Yellow )
I had 5 feet of Brick Wall and Grille to allow Ventilation
Biggest Reason to do that is that this way, NO NEED BOMBA Approval.

1) Must used Thick & Bigger Structure Metal. Sooner or later you must climb up to do repair in the future. Must be strong for you to stand on.
2) Very hot underneath. End up use Ceiling Board which I installed myself. But It Failed as it adsorb Moisture.
3) So, Replace The Ceiling Board with the Lexan* Twin Wall( A Lot of Work). Now I have 3 Layer of Insulation.
4) That very clear Instruction on the Wall. After 3 years, the Silicone Contractor used will harden and water Sips in. I repaired it with a Grinder, Aluminum Foil & Silicone. A lot of Work, but a permanent Solution.

I think those Insulated Metal Deck material is not Environment Friendly. Over the years, they may become dust and not good for health when breath into your lung. That is why I did not choose those.



jerryng75
post Feb 26 2014, 05:20 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 26 2014, 09:52 AM)
user posted image
Finally i have done my awning..just to share since i ask a few question here...
Now thinking of tinting it..anyone done this b4...
*
Yes, I believe you can add tinted film.
However, Noted that tinted film are not made for outdoor
They will come off after a couple of years. 3M warranty 7 years, therefore, I guess, Outdoor, 3 years plus/minus they will come off.
jerryng75
post Feb 28 2014, 10:01 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 27 2014, 09:31 AM)
The layer of tint should be below the glass so it sud not much expose to weather,hence not so 'outdoor'..i guess..
For my case which is ard 150 sqft..i guess it will cost me ard 3-4K for the tint and i will only last 3 yrs....do you think it is not so worth it??????? sad.gif
*
Hi,

More than 4 years ago, I wanted to cover the main entrance with Transparent Plastics.
I wanted LIGHTS on my living rooms, ( preferable without the heat, but I was not aware of the heat at that time)
I always enjoy Daylight , especially when reading, while enjoy energy saving. Furthermore, Sun Lights is Good for Kids

The Contractor Came, gave me a price
I asked " What is the Warranty or how long it will Last?"
Contractor " 3 years "

And I AM THINKING " I am not going to change roof every 3 years". So I did NOT proceed

June 2011, I found Lexan Solar Control IR, which Reduce Heat and allow much Lights coming into the House.
Price is Higher, but Workmanship is even more.

I agree with Laminated double Tempered Glass. It's the best choice if one can afford the cost.
Eventually, Glass will last a long time unless due to physical damage.


jerryng75
post Jun 30 2017, 09:43 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(favpearl @ Jun 29 2017, 10:44 PM)
Hi! Do you mind recommend your contractor for polycarbonate roofing? Thanks.
*
Hi

You can try https://www.polytechdesign.biz/

Otherwise , there are many Installer out there
Keep the Invoice. Any issue as consumer you can use the invoices to demand your right

Don't choose hit and run installer.

A good Polycarbonate Roof should last more than 15 years

Cheerio


jerryng75
post Jul 1 2017, 11:12 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 1 2017, 08:24 AM)
Awning where got so thick wan.

Such a big area when raining, can make you deaf. Farking noisy.
*
Dear Boss Ozak,

I total respect you and your comment
8 Star Leader & Senior member.

Am Guessing that you had a bad experience with Polycarbonate, in which may happen to other people too

Unlike you, I dislike the Contractor more than the material.
Material I can do my own research and select the Best in the market.
Contractor aim is to sweet talk you and close the " Hit n Run " Business.

I replace my old Water Heater with Panasonic Top of the Range & Expensive Model.
After my research, I found out that Panasonic use PA66, which is High Temperature Resistant Plastic anf would never break for the Heating Chamber.
Therefore, I probably won't die of Electrical Execution during my naked shower.
We heard many case where people die in the shower.

Manufacturers and Contractors are very similar . They find you the Cheapest Material and lower the price every single year. But They Never lower their Salary Every Single Year.
However, Japanese MNC , until today never ignore safety in their products they are making
In my Opinion, they still make the safest appliances and energy Saving.

I use Lexan 2 Walls for my awning and it's been 6 years. There is no problem, no yellowing, no algae, no water and no dust in the awning.
I paid high price for the material but unfortunately, the Contractor that Installed it sucks.

There is also 7 Walls and 9 Walls Polycarbonate for awning too. Not sure if Malaysia have this
There is 15 mm Solid Polycarbonate too costly for me

Cheers Bro


jerryng75
post Jul 2 2017, 10:13 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Jul 1 2017, 05:30 PM)
This type polycarbonate exist in the market years back. The problems with connections between polycarbonate in Tropicana country still remaining unsolved due to the contraction and expansion of joints and the polycarbonate sheets.
*
When I was playing Golf in Tropicana many months back, I notice the Buggy Area is using the Same Lexan Sheet as I am.

Same Case like me, The Lousy and Failed Contractor did not do a good job.
Algae, Water, Dust & Dirt are inside the Twin wall.

I have to think that the Tropicana Purchaser also play a role on the Failure of the Roof. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys

Mr Pucca&Garu, if you know the management, ask them to contact me. Maybe I', still able to repair it and earn some income

My House same product as Tropicana but No Algae, No Water, No Dust & No Dirt inside the Twin wall.
I purchased some accessories myself, Repaired and Solve it long long time ago.

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Jul 2 2017, 02:32 PM
jerryng75
post Jul 2 2017, 10:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Jul 1 2017, 07:00 PM)
As far I know that connection still using self driven fastener at the aluminium channel then seal with the gasket. Probably with your knowledge with polycarbonate material, what is the expansion on daytime and contraction during nighttime in our country.
*
I read from Internet, Europe and USA site, you are not recommended to Drill holes through the Sheet.

This Happen to me. That's why I mention many many time I Dislike Contractor ( There are less that 7 Good Contractors, electrical, tiles, pipe,etc in my list, Honest, Reliable, Integrity, etc)
My House has many creaking sound as the bottom has nothing whatsoever to allow Contraction and Expansion.
So I conclude that the contractor who did my house is Idiotic " Hit n Run " Type

You need to clamp with Rubber top & Bottom
or new technology like double sided tapes ( expensive).

Europe weather has higher temperature in the summer and lower temperature than us in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Jul 2 2017, 02:28 PM
jerryng75
post Jul 2 2017, 10:38 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 1 2017, 12:42 PM)
Just try to share my experience. That hope people here can save their money and time not to go through the same bad experience. Also share a good product and good experience. But I do need update from people here as I don't no some product have improve already.

I using polycarbonate for 20yrs. I like it because it allow the sunlight in while provide shade to rain.

But it also bad when rain. The noise. I m not like blocking you guys from using it. But proceed with caution the bad point.

The polycarbonate material that I use is solid type. With 6mm thick if not mistaken. I didn't use the hollow type because of mold grow inside. That is the technology at that time which probably still new and yet to improve. Like ar188 said, now come with more thicker material.
*
Ozak,

We should make a check list

Manufacturer

1) Warranty the Roof Don't Change Color or Yellowing
2) Warranty the Roof Does not Break
3) Warranty the Roof Does not become Blurr
4) Safe Plastics, not cheap, recycle or Toxic plastics, they Called it ROHS Compliance
5) Low Heat Transfer type

Contractor

6) Warranty on their Workmanship ( The Longer the Better)
7) Guaranty No Creaking Sound
8) Guaranty No Waviness
9) Guaranty No Algae, No Water, No Dirt and No Dust
10) Guaranty No Water Leaking in Long Period of Time
11 Recommend a Bright one, Dark Type Hides all the Defects.
12) Do you Job Slowly and Neatly. Workmanship is an Art. Respect your own Workmanship.

End User

13) Keep the Formal Receipt, It can be use against the contractor or the manufacturer in a court of Consumer Law
14) Google for more info
15) You Buying Asset, which add value to you home.

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Jul 2 2017, 02:30 PM
jerryng75
post Jul 2 2017, 02:46 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 2 2017, 12:30 PM)
So serious meh. sweat.gif

For warranty, they will give a yrs most.

Like my wan, the leaking start after more than 10yrs. Seal aging I guess. Workmanship is good. Material will blur abit but color no change.
*
Ozak,

Serious, I took 'DE**' Computers to Consumer courts in 2007 as they do not replace my Laptop Motherboard. The Motherboard was recalled and globally replaced. They think we Malaysian are Stupid

There is one rubber that last more than 10 years and maybe up to 20 years.

You and I see that particulars rubbers gasket everyday. Take a moment to Guess now before continue below. The Answer is at the Bottom

The Cinaman make products using " never" the best material. They will find the Cheapest, Recycle, 2nd, maybe 3rd Grade, Rejected or Discarded Grade Material to make the goods to sell to You.
That why after 10 years you said it would leak. I suggest you use Expensive Double Sided Tape. They can last super long.

They will never use good grade material to make a product for you. Same as A Contractor.

At the End of the day , the loser is still the End User, me and you.
We need to find the Best , maybe pay more , to get the Top Grade Products.














The answer is
















Your Car Door Rubber , Especially Non Local Made
BTW, My Nissan Sunny Rubber lasted 17 years.

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Jul 2 2017, 02:48 PM
jerryng75
post Jul 4 2017, 09:54 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(favpearl @ Jul 3 2017, 11:06 PM)
tks Jerry. U used them before?
*
Hi favpearl,

No, I never use them. But My Neighbor used them. I think Already 2 years. All OK. No Defect

My contractor is those "tepi jalan" Contractor which I try hard to forget . They say they know everything, Metal Roof, Polycarbonate Roof, Auto Gate, ACP and many other Skills they acquire ( like the movie Taken)

Use the Checklist below .

Manufacturer ( Get Official Letter)

1) Warranty the Roof Don't Change Color or Yellowing
2) Warranty the Roof Does not Break
3) Warranty the Roof Does not become Blurr
4) Safe Plastics , not cheap, recycle or Toxic plastics, they Called it ROHS Compliance
5) Low Heat Transfer Type is better

Contractor

6) Warranty on their Workmanship ( The Longer the Better)
7) Guaranty No Creaking Sound
8) Guaranty No Waviness
9) Guaranty No Algae, No Water, No Dirt and No Dust
10) Guaranty No Water Leaking in Long Period of Time
11 Recommend a Bright one, Dark Type Hides all the Defects.
12) Do you Job Slowly and Neatly. Workmanship is an Art. Respect your own Workmanship.

End User

13) Keep the Formal Receipt, It can be use against the contractor or the manufacturer in a court of Consumer Law
14) Google for more info
15) You Buying Asset, which add value to you home.
16) Burn the Samples Vertically ( Polycarbonate, ACP, Metal Roof with Insulation) to see if it will burn. A Safe products will stop burning in less than 60 seconds

This post has been edited by jerryng75: Jul 4 2017, 10:46 PM
jerryng75
post Jul 5 2017, 08:50 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
76 posts

Joined: Jan 2013


QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 5 2017, 04:43 PM)
Price a bit high side.

Base on the picture, the frame installation is quite nice. Additional secure by the steel rope.

You can use green tinted glass to shade abit. Quite nice when your whole car posh look green when sun shine down.
*
Ozak Sifu,

You cannot say like that.

If I offer you Double Laminated Tempered Glass, with U Value at 0.6 W/m2 K price at RM 350/sq ft, would that be expensive too?
This is currently the Best Glass in the World that Reduce Heat .
Many Other Material Cannot beat That U Value

Do force the contractor to write 2 years or 4 years or many many years Workmanship warranty.
If not, when leaking on the Silicone, they want to charge you few hundreds ringgit to repair the job( that they didn't do it right in the beginning)

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0251sec    0.54    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 27th November 2025 - 01:15 AM