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yinchet
post Feb 1 2012, 03:20 PM

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Our weak link now is in the midfield no creative creation over there.
lack of confident after so many bad form plague Chelsea.
playing safe is their comfort zone now.
all we can do now is continue support Chelsea instead of bashing these and that.
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post Feb 1 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 1 2012, 02:45 PM)
u do make some fair points. the coach and players share responsibility, but u really wonder sometimes with some of our personnel on the pitch. for example malouda's body language for the whole 80 mins just didn't look like someone looking to impress the manager, let alone the fans. as u mentioned its the coach who put his name down in the teamsheet in the first place, but a glance at our bench and we soon realise there isn't much to choose from. one of the biggest consequence of roman's trigger-happy approach when it comes to managers is nobody DARES to field the youngsters to make a point to the seniors, for fear of giving away cheap points. AVB has fallen into the same trap and there really is no quick-fix to this problem.

this is the bed chelsea have made, and now we have to lie in it.
i noticed this too.even studge makes incisive runs but our midfielders are terrified of giving away possession, so they take the safe option 99% of the time. frustrating is the most apt description for our style of play at the moment. yes torres is part of the problem, but i think even if the likes of aguero, cavani, higuain or what have u joined us right now, we'll make them look like gazillion dollar flops in no time. just slot in our meireles, malouda and oreo three in midfield, and watch as (insert fantasy striker name here) morphs into a creative midfielder in the space of a few months because he's sick of the lack of service.

now that we've decided a top four finish is actually more intriguing with a weakened squad (minus anelka), virtually nobody has been signed to aid our current team. hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooboy it's going to be a long season.
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I dunno why AVB like to field MALOUDA on the CM role instead of LW and he place MATA the player we needed most on the LW and limit his chances getting the ball and ESSIEN definitely a better option there. When ESSIEN sub in you can see he has better vision than today midfield trio with his long range passes.

For whatever reason which i dont want to argue with, this TORRES thing is not working out. 12 more days till DROGBA return, if we want to remain top 4 we need him to start, but is almost certain he is not going to sign unless CHELSEA grant him the 2 years contract and he is already free to talk to any club now with bigger offer which might causes distraction. Most people will want TORRES to play as he is "still" the future but with champion league football and AVB job at stake, guess it will be more dilemma for AVB.

This january transfer window could have been a little hint how much faith RA has on AVB, i would say not much though (just guessing dont shoot me on this) but it could also because of the Financial Fair Play has started which club are only allow to have debt total 40m pound in this 3 years till 2015.


Added on February 1, 2012, 3:42 pm
QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Feb 1 2012, 03:01 PM)
1. since Zola times? lol i tot after mourinho era everyone wants manager to be sack sack sack..lolz

2. of course coach have their own responsibility. but may i ask you again, did we have gotze on the bench? or hazard? or luis figo? or kevin? or kalou?
stop asking AVB to put in youngsters for fun. this is not football manager where if u drop points u can load the game back.

remember how Kalou was first eleven and being subbed of after 30 mins or so this season and was never part of the team since that (only sometimes on bench)? and again inb4 we shud buy gotze/ hazard/ all the talent around the world fuhh power siot.
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1. Again you are talking about the result, manager get sack because not winning trophies, in matter of fact i still think CA is a good manager to take us through the transition period as he is very experience in working with aging player and promoting youngster at AC Milan. Yes last season we are having hard time breaking through team parking the bus defense but we still dominate the game and play some good football but sadly RA think other wise. And i am not asking AVB head but i demand improvement and he definitely share the blame with the football we playing now. Open your eyes and see the football we are playing now, is really VERY VERY BAD in my opinion.

2. Again what is the point bringing big names ? Just look at SWANSEA player and their football today, does they have all those big names ?

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post Feb 1 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Feb 1 2012, 03:31 PM)


2. Again what is the point bringing big names ? Just look at SWANSEA player and their football today, does they have all those big names ?
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Agree with no need big names, big transfer fees will lead to more pressure onto the player.


Btw, Essein just came back from nearly one year (Mostly) layoff, that's why slowly put him back into the team.
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QUOTE(HumbleCMY @ Feb 1 2012, 03:50 PM)
Agree with no need big names, big transfer fees will lead to more pressure onto the player.
Btw, Essein just came back from nearly one year (Mostly) layoff, that's why slowly put him back into the team.
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yup, but it hard for him also not much good option for him.
hopefully Essein could shed some light for us.
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post Feb 1 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Feb 1 2012, 03:31 PM)
I dunno why AVB like to field MALOUDA on the CM role instead of LW and he place MATA the player we needed most on the LW and limit his chances getting the ball and ESSIEN definitely a better option there. When ESSIEN sub in you can see he has better vision than today midfield trio with his long range passes.
essien is no way fit for 90 mins yet, on the way to max fitness

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1. Again you are talking about the result, manager get sack because not winning trophies, in matter of fact i still think CA is a good manager to take us through the transition period as he is very experience in working with aging player and promoting youngster at AC Milan. Yes last season we are having hard time breaking through team parking the bus defense but we still dominate the game and play some good football but sadly RA think other wise. And i am not asking AVB head but i demand improvement and he definitely share the blame with the football we playing now. Open your eyes and see the football we are playing now, is really VERY VERY BAD in my opinion.

2. Again what is the point bringing big names ? Just look at SWANSEA player and their football today, does they have all those big names ?
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1. no, CA was bad esp after christmas last season. or did u forget around christmas / new year or something we're already 11-14 points behind the leader? so the situation here is almost the same like i said previously..this POST-CHRISTMAS syndrome had happen for the last 3-4 years with chelsea. nothing new

19 shots vs swans only 8
with only 4 on target. izit sturridge or avb who shoots the ball? izit oreo or avb who kick it off target?

11 corners which i believe on 2-3 corners are actually a decent one while other rubbish, AVB took the corner? or it's "AVB who list out the corner kick takers" ?

54% posession for the whole 90 mins

11 fouls compared to only 1 for swans. AVB asking ashley cole to do those silly tackles?


stats, dont lie.

i'm not saying we play good, it also annoys me when torres make some decent run and the midfield cant read his run and shoot shoot.
those passing are never the same like we play vs newcastle or valencia last time. very slow. and very selfish

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post Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM

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we will bounce back next match, a point is better than no point!!
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QUOTE(denon91 @ Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM)
we will bounce back next match, a point is better than no point!!
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I like this optimism. smile.gif

Wonder if Bosingwa will start next game. Since Park might start, so Bos will have to be more hardworking to outplay Park.


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post Feb 1 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Feb 1 2012, 04:02 PM)
essien is no way fit for 90 mins yet, on the way to max fitness
1. no, CA was bad esp after christmas last season. or did u forget around christmas / new year or something we're already 11-14 points behind the leader? so the situation here is almost the same like i said previously..this POST-CHRISTMAS syndrome had happen for the last 3-4 years with chelsea. nothing new

19 shots vs swans only 8
with only 4 on target. izit sturridge or avb who shoots the ball? izit oreo or avb who kick it off target?

11 corners which i believe on 2-3 corners are actually a decent one while other rubbish, AVB took the corner? or it's "AVB who list out the corner kick takers" ?

54% posession for the whole 90 mins

11 fouls compared to only 1 for swans. AVB asking ashley cole to do those silly tackles?
stats, dont lie.

i'm not saying we play good, it also annoys me when torres make some decent run and the midfield cant read his run and shoot shoot.
those passing are never the same like we play vs newcastle or valencia last time. very slow. and very selfish
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Again you are talking about the result which i am talking about the football we play. CA is bad at last xmas period but the football we play are not as bad as what we are playing now. For so many matches our player seem dunno how to attack and defend that why we keep seeing side passes, back passes, no supply to striker, even when defending with so many player we look shaky.

Those statistic do not tell you the football we play, you can have 100 shot on target but what if all is soft or towards goalkeeper ? do you really think we look like gonna score against SWANSEA ? those possession was also not accurate as SWANSEA is already set their mind defending at 2nd half which might mislead ppl thinking we actually attacking better and the BOSINGWA goal ? we dont really deserve the 1 point.

Seem like you have simply understanding about a manager job, seriously good or bad corner is also down to the manager, do u really think manager just ask their player to get up and hope they head the ball in ? why some relegating team are good at set pieces because they train for it. Manager will tell them how to attack and defend the corner. Bad crosses ? a manager will ask them to train on it. Selfish STURRIDGE ? who u think can fix this ? AVB telling him off, no ? Even parking the bus need to be train by telling player which space to cover not just simply putting men behind. But those shot and corner are less concern than our build up play, do we really need to do so many safe back pass side pass ? is our player not getting in support position for forward pass ? is our player has less creativity than SWANSEA player so they are told to play safe passes only while SWANSEA player are so good they better at pressing and attacking build up, and again who is hired to fix this ? AVB.

Lastly i am not pushing everything to AVB, but i stop criticizing any particular player because i think we have a bigger problem than individual not playing well which is the our football philosophy itself.

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post Feb 1 2012, 05:00 PM

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Darn it!I strongly think that players are trying to sack avb...darn bad result!

Lets pray Chelsea play without Europe league next season..
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post Feb 1 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Feb 1 2012, 04:46 PM)
Again you are talking about the result which i am talking about the football we play. CA is bad at last xmas period but the football we play are not as bad as what we are playing now. For so many matches our player seem dunno how to attack and defend that why we keep seeing side passes, back passes, no supply to striker, even when defending with so many player we look shaky.

Those statistic do not tell you the football we play, you can have 100 shot on target but what if all is soft or towards goalkeeper ? do you really think we look like gonna score against SWANSEA ? those possession was also not accurate as SWANSEA is already set their mind defending at 2nd half which might mislead ppl thinking we actually attacking better and the BOSINGWA goal ? we dont really deserve the 1 point.

Seem like you have simply understanding about a manager job, seriously good or bad corner is also down to the manager, do u really think manager just ask their player to get up and hope they head the ball in ? why some relegating team are good at set pieces because they train for it. Manager will tell them how to attack and defend the corner. Bad crosses ? a manager will ask them to train on it. Selfish STURRIDGE ? who u think can fix this ? AVB telling him off, no ? Even parking the bus need to be train by telling player which space to cover not just simply putting men behind. But those shot and corner are less concern than our build up play, do we really need to do so many safe back pass side pass ? is our player not getting in support position for forward pass ? is our player has less creativity than SWANSEA player so they are told to play safe passes only while SWANSEA player are so good they better at pressing and attacking build up, and again who is hired to fix this ? AVB.

Lastly i am not pushing everything to AVB, but i stop criticizing any particular player because i think we have a bigger problem than individual not playing well which is the our football philosophy itself.
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first ask why essien not given the nod ahead of malouda..now ask why AVB doesnt teach this teach that.
now criticize our philosophy.
if u want to have beautiful football but with less result,
i come to a point that i agree to disagree with you.

thanks.
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komfom salah avb.kthxbye.

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post Feb 1 2012, 05:26 PM

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both player and manager is equally guilty.
can't shove everything on AVB. tongue.gif
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buang masa & duit je pergi wat kursus team-building kat mallorca .. hahahaha ..
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I blame on Carlo..failure to refresh the squad after the Double hahahaha =D
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yes. no doubt salah AVB. 100% positive 110% sure. my 20 fingers all point to him.

he can gtfo now. beli player mahal2 loan back, beli player mahal2 keep on the bench.
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Feb 1 2012, 05:31 PM)
yes. no doubt salah AVB. 100% positive 110% sure. my 20 fingers all point to him.

he can gtfo now. beli player mahal2 loan back, beli player mahal2 keep on the bench.
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nope it must Tottenham fault not selling Modric to us. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Feb 1 2012, 05:31 PM)
yes. no doubt salah AVB. 100% positive 110% sure. my 20 fingers all point to him.

he can gtfo now. beli player mahal2 loan back, beli player mahal2 keep on the bench.
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Ok, the player you meant must be.. Kevin and Lukaku?
Genk requested to have a loan til summer, Genk will not sell Kevin to us if we don't allow them to take him on loan til the end of the season.
I never, ever expect Lukaku to straight making into first team. He's a talent, paying 18m is just securing the talent and he's a hardcore Chelsea fan, surely he will work hard to improve himself.


Added on February 1, 2012, 6:43 pmCole suspended, Terry injured, Lampard injured, Drogba off, new revolution?

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post Feb 1 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Feb 1 2012, 05:31 PM)
yes. no doubt salah AVB. 100% positive 110% sure. my 20 fingers all point to him.

he can gtfo now. beli player mahal2 loan back, beli player mahal2 keep on the bench.
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ramai orang dah post kat sini pasal kevin, lain kali baca dulu bang
same goes to lukaku

and if ure talking abt cahill..no i wont gamble two ball playing CB in my team.

Luiz (ball playing/stopper)
Iva (cover/sweeper)

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premier league stats, manchester united has never won in stamford bridge since? 2000 or 2002? not sure there, but i have a feeling that they will break the jinx this sunday...hope my feeling is wrong..


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biar la nak re-post 10000x times pon xpe .. btw, tetap salah avb ...

.. sikit2 malouda , sikit2 malouda .. sayang benar avb dgn malouda ni .. vmad.gif

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