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skumara
post Jun 20 2018, 01:39 PM

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can beta fish live together in a tank with guppy and catfish?
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post Aug 10 2018, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(skumara @ Jun 20 2018, 01:39 PM)
can beta fish live together in a tank with guppy and catfish?
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don't think so... had my guppy and betta in one aquarium and the betta keep chasing the guppy
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post Aug 27 2018, 11:32 AM

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Can Betty stays with barbs??
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post Oct 6 2018, 09:07 PM

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Hello guys, where can I buy white/platinum half moon/full moon betta? I went pudu last week, but it seems mostly pk selling only...
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post Oct 26 2018, 06:46 AM

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Guys. Need help. My betta fish is not doing well.. he have not eaten much for the last 2 week. In fac e have not eaten at all. Also he look very weak and not as active anymore.

The only thing I did was to change the water. Other than that nothing extraordinary happened.
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post Oct 31 2018, 12:38 AM

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Put in daun ketapang

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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Oct 26 2018, 06:46 AM)
Guys. Need help. My betta fish is not doing well.. he have not eaten much for the last 2 week. In fac e have not eaten at all. Also he look very weak and not as active anymore.

The only thing I did was to change the water.  Other than  that nothing extraordinary happened.
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friedmihun
post Dec 13 2018, 08:37 AM

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hi guys wanna ask, new betta owner here. i have a few qs..

1) what does it mean if my betta swims with his fins close to his body? sorry i dont know what type of betta he is. i just got him 12 days ago. previously he looks really beautiful swimming with all his tail and fins opened up in the fish shop, but now it seems closed. was wondering is this a sign of stress or sickness.

2) he recently has a problem floating properly, he swims vertically and that really scares me. i read up and think he has swim bladder disease. is this dangerous? will he recover from this and usually how long will he be normal again? previously i fed him with bettaX pellets from the pet shop: i followed the instruction of 7 pellets, twice daily...however i read up and saw people recommending to only feed 2-3 pellet twice a day. Am i overfeeding him? and why would the betta pellet instruction says to give 7 huhu.. i'm worried that i might kill him

3) i recently bought a larger tank for him, an upgrade from a small jar, however he doesnt seem to really like it. he only stays in the upper right and left corner and sometimes darts back and forth. he doesnt seem to explore his tank. why is that?

4) i was thinking of incorporating dried bloodworms flakes to his diet, how frequent should i feed him these?

sorry for the many qs, just worried for my betta - he doesnt seem too active and happy
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(friedmihun @ Dec 13 2018, 08:37 AM)
hi guys wanna ask, new betta owner here. i have a few qs..

1) what does it mean if my betta swims with his fins close to his body? sorry i dont know what type of betta he is. i just got him 12 days ago. previously he looks really beautiful swimming with all his tail and fins opened up in the fish shop, but now it seems closed. was wondering is this a sign of stress or sickness.

2) he recently has a problem floating properly, he swims vertically and that really scares me. i read up and think he has swim bladder disease. is this dangerous? will he recover from this and usually how long will he be normal again? previously i fed him with bettaX pellets from the pet shop: i followed the instruction of 7 pellets, twice daily...however i read up and saw people recommending to only feed 2-3 pellet twice a day. Am i overfeeding him? and why would the betta pellet instruction says to give 7 huhu.. i'm worried that i might kill him

3) i recently bought a larger tank for him, an upgrade from a small jar, however he doesnt seem to really like it. he only stays in the upper right and left corner and sometimes darts back and forth. he doesnt seem to explore his tank. why is that?

4) i was thinking of incorporating dried bloodworms flakes to his diet, how frequent should i feed him these?

sorry for the many qs, just worried for my betta - he doesnt seem too active and happy
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Hi there,

I'm also a new onwer of a betta plakat 2 months ago. It seems your fish is most likely sick probably from the bad water quality of your tank. What is the size of your tank? Keeping a betta in a bowl is really bad your fish may survive but it will not thrive. Most people recommend 2.5 gallons and above (mine is 5 gallon with filter).

It is important to maintain your water quality so that they are not easily sick. The larger your tank is the more stable your water quality is. Is your tank filtered and cycled? If not I would recommend you to google how to cycle a fish tank. Here's a video on how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V6iim5Sww
The general rule to begin cycling your tank is frequent water changes and slowly reducing the amount as time passes so that the beneficial bacteria in your tank can grow. The process can be painfully long but if you can't wait then try getting old water from your friends or aquarium shops or even better if they have old filters because the good bacteria is mostly concentrated there. I would also recommend adding some Indian Almond Leaves aka Daun Ketapang which is said to be able to cure diseases and keep your betta healthy, breeders always use them! If you wouldn't mind spending more then try to find some medicine for your fish too but I didn't have any experience of using them.

Betta has a small stomach almost the size of its eye. I would generally recommend feeding 5 pellets once everyday or feeding not more than it can finish in one minute. Live food is definitely healthier than pellets but I wouldn't think it is compulsory unless you intend to breed.

Hope this helps


victorsoo
post Dec 14 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(friedmihun @ Dec 13 2018, 08:37 AM)
hi guys wanna ask, new betta owner here. i have a few qs..

1) what does it mean if my betta swims with his fins close to his body? sorry i dont know what type of betta he is. i just got him 12 days ago. previously he looks really beautiful swimming with all his tail and fins opened up in the fish shop, but now it seems closed. was wondering is this a sign of stress or sickness.

2) he recently has a problem floating properly, he swims vertically and that really scares me. i read up and think he has swim bladder disease. is this dangerous? will he recover from this and usually how long will he be normal again? previously i fed him with bettaX pellets from the pet shop: i followed the instruction of 7 pellets, twice daily...however i read up and saw people recommending to only feed 2-3 pellet twice a day. Am i overfeeding him? and why would the betta pellet instruction says to give 7 huhu.. i'm worried that i might kill him

3) i recently bought a larger tank for him, an upgrade from a small jar, however he doesnt seem to really like it. he only stays in the upper right and left corner and sometimes darts back and forth. he doesnt seem to explore his tank. why is that?

4) i was thinking of incorporating dried bloodworms flakes to his diet, how frequent should i feed him these?

sorry for the many qs, just worried for my betta - he doesnt seem too active and happy
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Hi friedmihun,

If you have photo(s) of your tank with your betta it might help the other sifus here in giving you some advice.

1. Your observation seems correct - he could be stressed or sick. How big is your tank? Did you change water for him recently? Sometimes water changes can stress them out due to our tap water conditions so people do recommend using aged water and/or add anti-chlorine. If your fish is sick, people sometimes add some aquarium salt for healing purposes.

2. If it's really a swim bladder disease, it could be caused by overfeeding. Again, clean water is essential in his recovery. Also maybe try to not feed him or a day or two after a water change to see if his condition improves.

3. If he's not feeling well, he won't want to explore. Wait till he recovers first and then observe his behaviour.

4. I used dried bloodworms before. My previous bettas loved them. I guess you could alternate between the pellets and the bloodworms if you feed it twice a day.

I only have limited knowledge on bettas as I only keep them on and off. But perhaps try the basic water change first and see how things go. Hopefully the sifus here have better advice for you.

Good luck!
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post Dec 14 2018, 06:36 PM

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Hi junyang96 victorsoo

Thank you both for your replies. I really appreciate it so much that you both took the time to explain to a newbie like me.

Unfortunately, my Fighter died this morning sad.gif

3 days ago, i saw something that look like white specks at his belly area. I thought it was fungus. I then proceeded to order some ketapang leaves in hope that this will cure him. Also i thought it would be better for the water condition. Btw, i have just a basic aquarium 5litres capacity. No filter, no thermostat, no plants. Only a wood and some gravel as i have just started to buy him last 2 weeks ago. I did not have a cycled tank as i didnt know what that was. I used normal tap water and add antichlorine and let it rest for half an hour before changing. I do daily water change about 50%. I thought my water looked pretty clean because of the daily change.

It was not until late last night i wanted to take a closer look at the white patch and proceeded to take a photo of him with flash. To my horror, i saw that he had gold specks on his face and body instead of white specks. It was truly difficult to see with the naked eye unless u shine a torch or take a flash photograph of him. I quickly googled and found out he has Velvet disease aka gold rust disease. That explains why he was swimming with his fins closed, low mood, swims funny: always darting back and forth, and had poor appetite. Also i saw just yesterday his fins was starting to rot. As he swam around, i saw a chunk of his fin fell out T___T
Does this mean he has velvet and fin rot together? T______T

I tried to find meds to cure velvet but couldn't so i planned to go search some from LFS. However it was too late.

I was wondering though:

1) is my water change routine ok? Am i doing anything wrong? I don't have a thermostat but i thought room temp water was fine, no? >.<

2) since velvet is caused by parasites, does this mean normal tap water has them? where does it come from? Or did the shop sell me a sick betta? He looked fine to me when i bought him though

3) where do i find velvet disease meds here in kl? I saw that malachite green or copper sulfate is good but i dont see anyone selling here online. Maybe anyone can give me the names and location to buy some?

4) can a betta have 2 coexisting diseases together, eg: fin rot and betta. If so, can we mix both meds together and pour in the tank? Or will it kill the fish faster.

5) instead of aquarium salt, can i use table salt. And how much to add to 2.5L of water?

Sorry for my lengthy post and many questions. I just wanted to let new owners know that velvet is fatal and often missed by amateurs like me. So use a torch to check your betta frequently huhu. Looking forward to hearing some thoughts from u guys out there. I'll attach some before and after pics below. Could you guys tell me did he have fin rot when i bought him?

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post Yesterday, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(friedmihun @ Dec 14 2018, 06:36 PM)
Hi junyang96 victorsoo

Thank you both for your replies. I really appreciate it so much that you both took the time to explain to a newbie like me.

Unfortunately,  my Fighter died this morning sad.gif

3 days ago, i saw something that look like white specks at his belly area. I thought it was fungus. I then proceeded to order some ketapang leaves in hope that this will cure him. Also i thought it would be better for the water condition. Btw, i have just a basic aquarium 5litres capacity.  No filter, no thermostat,  no plants. Only a wood and some gravel as i have just started to buy him last 2 weeks ago. I did not have a cycled tank as i didnt know what that was. I used normal tap water and add antichlorine and let it rest for half an hour before changing. I do daily water change about 50%. I thought my water looked pretty clean because of the daily change.

It was not until late last night i wanted to take a closer look at the white patch and proceeded to take a photo of him with flash. To my horror, i saw that he had gold specks on his face and body instead of white specks. It was truly difficult to see with the naked eye unless u shine a torch or take a flash photograph of him. I quickly googled and found out he has Velvet disease aka gold rust disease. That explains why he was swimming with his fins closed, low mood, swims funny: always darting back and forth, and had poor appetite. Also i saw just yesterday his fins was starting to rot. As he swam around, i saw a chunk of his fin fell out T___T
Does this mean he has velvet and fin rot together? T______T

I tried to find meds to cure velvet but couldn't so i planned to go search some from LFS. However it was too late.

I was wondering though:

1) is my water change routine ok? Am i doing anything wrong? I don't have a thermostat but i thought room temp water was fine, no? >.<

2) since velvet is caused by parasites, does this mean normal tap water has them? where does it come from? Or did the shop sell me a sick betta? He looked fine to me when i bought him though

3) where do i find velvet disease meds here in kl? I saw that malachite green or copper sulfate is good but i dont see anyone selling here online. Maybe anyone can give me the names and location to buy some?

4) can a betta have 2 coexisting diseases together,  eg: fin rot and betta. If so, can we mix both meds together and pour in the tank? Or will it kill the fish faster.

5) instead of aquarium salt, can i use table salt. And how much to add to 2.5L of water?

Sorry for my lengthy post and many questions. I just wanted to let new owners know that velvet is fatal and often missed by amateurs like me. So use a torch to check your betta frequently huhu. Looking forward to hearing some thoughts from u guys out there. I'll attach some before and after pics below. Could you guys tell me did he have fin rot when i bought him?

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Hello friedmihun

Sorry to know about your betta. bye.gif
It's a learning process so you'll know what you did wrong and do better next time.

Okay, I see you got a halfmoon doubletail betta. The thing about these fancy tail bettas is that they are susceptible to diseases because they go through a lot of inbreeding to get that fancy tail. So to take care of these fancy tail bettas you'll need to really take extra care in its water parameters and maintenance.

Personally I prefer plakats which are very hardy and not susceptible to disease. You might want to consider a plakat for your next betta. Occasionally I rescue poor veiltails from LFS too if I have an empty spare tank. biggrin.gif Veiltails are damn hardy too.

To answer your questions:
1. Your daily water change routine is fine to start with and you don't need a thermostat. Once your tank is cycled, you actually don't have to change your water that often. Since your betta just died, do a thorough clean of the tank, put the gravel back, fill it with water and let it sit for a few days. Also, if you want to cycle your tank quickly, I recommend you buy a bottle of Nutrafin Cycle (some LFS sell them). It really helps when starting up a new tank and you can use it for regular maintenance too when you change water.

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That piece of wood in the tank, is that newly bought as well? New wood will leech tannins into the water. I don't know if they are harmful to bettas but perhaps you should remove it until your tank is properly cycled.

2. Yeah, sometimes the betta might be carrying the virus and maybe poor water conditions triggered it. Hard to tell and I'm not an expert on this. biggrin.gif

3. Sorry, can't help you with this one. Actually never encountered velvet disease before.

4. Yes, multiple diseases can set in when the fish is sick. The fin rot was probably caused by the velvet disease. Again, I'm not sure if you can mix medicines together. Maybe someone else can help you here.

5. You only use aquarium salt to treat diseases. If your fish is fine, then you shouldn't use it. For 2.5 litres, I think you only need very little - maybe 1/4 teaspoon? Table salt contains additives so it's not recommended for aquarium fish.

You can start cycling your tank again from today and by the weekend you can go look for a new betta. Haha.

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