Hi rosemarry,

sorry to say this but something is not right here.i also had bought a director unit before. director unit means,they hold the unit and when reach 80% or 100% completion than the developer will release it for sale.the unit MUST be under the developer at the end.If the s&p is under a person's name than this is a pure Subsale. If this is a subsale,the water bill,tnb,last year cukai pintu all need to be paid by the 1st owner which is the director.

You highlight this to them.If they not helping you,inform them you will go to consumer court.I will give you the contact.If this does not work,I will give you a contact of a DIRECTOR at JABATAN PERDANA MENTERI AT PUTRAJAYA to get this solved. thanks.

Wendy Tan

my understanding is DLP starts from the date of VP letter. So in your case from the date they sent the VP letter to the first owner

Does it start from the date of the VP letter or from VP, after you pay the money and gain possession of the keys .. as these two are different?

Agent told me that the DLP starts from VP date and current owner has not taken possession of the house ...

    from current owners of Spira ..

dlp normally starts 14 days after vp letter is issued, regardless keys are taken or not.

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Added on April 16, 2012, 6:54 pm
yr case sounds a little fishy. i advise you to seek yr lawyer's advice and honest comments. hopefully it is not the same lawyer acting for seller.

seems to me the seller wants you to pay everything as if you're buying direct from dev but you pay a hefty margin that effectively is the seller's clean, maybe "invisible" profit - is it seller or dev making this profit?

1 question i suggest you ask - will yr name as owner be the 1st or 2nd? ask the lawyer.
if you are still 1st owner, that can be as many dev raise price after vp. not really subsale.
if 2nd owner, it is true subsale.

Rosemary,

Whats most important is how much did you buy the unit vs those bought by people direct through developer. (after discount). Are u a bumi?

Is it facing Garden? and 24x75 ryte? not corner or end lot or anything?

Short selling is borrowing an asset and speculating the price will drop in the future.

This I call easy money getting Bumi AND staff discounts AND some mark up without having to put any capital.

This is indeed immoral. Maybe the top management is unaware of this practice. You can report to the Head of Marketing. You might even get the original purchase price. Good Luck.

Hi, wanna ask Spira owners ..

When viewing the house, i noticed only 1 water heater point is given and that is for the master bathroom .. how do you install the water heater for the rest of the bathrooms or do you use concealed storage water heater.

Any pictures that you can show on how you renovate your bathrooms please? Appreciate it a lot. Thank Q

I am a Spira owner and I don't have children. But when I look at this kindergarten issue, I look at it from middle ground.

We bought the Spira houses knowing that it will be F&G. The security will be good and we paid premium for that service. Whether we have children or not, we paid that premium to get more secure environment. And after 2 years, we have to hire security firm to maintain that service and we have to pay hefty monthly fees for that.

If a kindergarten is inside Spira, anyone can come in and we lost the premium that we paid for security when we bought our house. For Spira owners with children, they may benefit from having a kindergarten inside but you are sacrificing the security of the whole Spira. And who wants to pay for hefty monthly fees for security if we are in this kind of situation?

There were a few break-ins in Kemmuing Utama recently, which is fully G&G, due to some irresponsible owners who let thieves in unintentionally into their area by following their car closely and fool the guard. The same will happen to Spira for sure if we don't control who can come in to Spira.

And I usually go to Kota Kummuning for food everyday and I don't complain about not having Mama stall inside our Spira so that I can walk there to save time and money. Like you said there are 15 kindergartens in KK and at lease 1 in I&P alam impian, why don't you sacrifice time and money  like I do for my food and send your children to those places?

You may call me not smart enough spira owner, but I see what we are losing to have a kindergarten in Spira is much more than the benefits we are going get from it.
For voting, MSBA has rejected the application of the kindergarten. I don't see any reason to vote this moment as it is done deal.

You sound reasonable..

But we had this kind of heated discussion on this forum long before someone was planning to open a kindergarten inside Spira and we were voicing against it for similar reasons. But whoever opening it did not pay attention to it and went ahead with their own plan without consulting neighbors.  Now they pay the price for doing business this way.

Rosemary,

You shouldn't be having so bad heart. It might strike you back.

This comment is unnecessary. Already mention they are shifting out.

Wendy Tan

Rosemary,

The Kindie will be closed. Insya Allah there wont be any demonstration needed.

As for guards, make sure we got the right quotation. if not, can somebody volunteer to go shopping for security?

Rosemary, a gentle reminder not to layan unconstructive or provocative statements made by anyone.

Totally agreed on the RA being seperated by between Spira and viola. And owners be it investors or residents should not be denied of their votes.

Appreciate if someone can spearhead / initiate the forming of RA.

dont get hooked with drama queens. They will come and haunt you one day

http://www.hba.org.my/articles/buyer_watch...g_residents.htm i'm not sure is this info still can be used f set up RA or not..any idea..anyone?

there's someone fr telekom call my hubby his morning.
regarding unifi intallation..ask us to cfm date to fix unifi..

anyone had same experience...i wonder this guy is promotor or installer...very confuse!!

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Added on June 15, 2012, 2:00 pmjust to share my experience aout postcode...this story was begun fr our sp agreement, roadname sign in spira...further till education dept... finally ..it cfmd the right postcode is 40470.

I pay with Rm1500 whole house... I m not new owner.. But i juz want to share wit all.. I think depends the sf of houses ba.. Mines was dOuble storey house..