^ this...

i dunno from the other side bt from nDL side u can see lots of ppl turned up for the event jz to support the event such as the Penang dudes (echo, baller) as well as the Klang side (like bulu, adam who dont even practice =.=)...
even i joined to support when i gotta go at 3.30 (then drove back to support the event after i settled my stuffs) >.<
one of the issue imho is it being a 2day event where i think unless there are really nt enuff time, a full 1 day event would be much better...

its better than most of the hypocrits in the forum who bash others for trying to make esport work/ 'pro theory crafters'/ 'elitist' whom end up not joining a single event at all till now (u all know the people i meant)...

thus there are both the good and the bad in the community...
potential is there, but to make it grow there is the need to educate the public...

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i think overall FXO #1 did showed a pretty good turnout and i dun think cause it is free...
what the free thing did was creating the 'i got nothing to lose' mindset for the non-pro players...
i do agree that after the initial stage, the whole free mindset shouldn't be there anymore as a entry barrier is needed besides the obvious cost covers...

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as for the whole free proc thingy, i knw who are u talking about in the skype lol...
but i think only 1 person from that channel actually went to the event after all...
then again, he do play the game and did go there to win rather than jz for the proc...
it maybe a marketing gimmick but it work...

i think those in the channel would know why i decided nt to join the sportgamers event regardless of the free proc or nt...

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the reason why dota/ lol is popular is cause it is free and tat's basically it...
dota is pretty much a dead game in the international scene and dota2 is crap (yes i have beta and it is total crap)...
lol is doing very well internationally especially in EU and i do agree it is way better than dota...
u can say msians are lagging behind in the esport scene...

still the msian sc2 community is huge (btw the SEA version was around rm150 when we all got it)...
when u get on bnet u can see the number of ppl...
only problem is most of them are casuals and does nt take it seriously...

sc2 was made with esport in mind...
the UI makes it easy to follow and the casters really make it awesome (analytical + commentator)...
and who dont like lasers (hint: war of the world in PvP)...

compared to MOBA like Dota...
15min of pure farming doing ntg, auto-attack carries, bad commentary, lack of memorable moments and ppl dying so fast...
at least LoL (if u watch the big events) fixed lots of stuffs which made it watchable...
ask those who ever watched LoL competitively and would agree that dota is horrible to watch...

the same issue roughly in CS where it is nt suitable for the spectator...
being a team game is one thing and FPS is another...
compared to Quake:Live which is actually decent =p

for fighting games, it require really good players to shine out...
i did follow SSF4 in EVO2011 and i jz saw the one in dreamhack last weekend...
the dreamhack one was sooo damn freaking horrible =.=

kaiz can be quaza's best fren and go every event #together4ever

even the MTG scene has declined...
most major events used to be held at hotel ballrooms back then but recently it was only the nationals...
still back then, u have ppl from east msia flying over jz to join qualifiers in west msia...
one of the biggest draw of MLG was the prices where PT qualifiers will give u flight tickets to where the PT is held...
quite a number of MTG players also flew to various GP events on their own jz to join...

atm, gaming doesnt really have such draw within msia...

yup magic the gathering...
it was really huge and still is atm...
u have casuals which doesnt join tournaments but will join events like around 100-300 ppl (thus hotel ballroom for those events) when it is centralized for KL besides around 30 of them for weekly events...
then u have the hardcores who join tournaments in all format around 50-100 players per tournament...

it was the crowd and reward which really draw me to mtg last time...
it is among the best game i've played and very very skill intensive with suits me...
but the other draws was the community as well as the reward/ prize payout...

i think u can see the amount of support so far, but as u said before it is nt enuff to make it really big...
one thing i noticed among my frens is that they are watching sc2 games (i have close frens who stayed up with me for MLG events etc) and before that they rarely watch any game tournaments and used to only follow sports...
that's the great part about sc2 as it is more of a sport rather than a game especially when u have all the awesome drama/ storyline (ppl like idra, mc etc)...
just that the public aint really aware of it...

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and yeah, CS is really awesome but the problem is when those games are streamed/ casted everything feels so messy even for CS players themselves...
the public are nt able to keep up or understand the complexity of the techniques used...
it is really different from the edited videos which we saw on youtube of good plays which are totally wicked sick to watch >.<

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Added on November 30, 2011, 11:29 pmps:

i rather have the current civilized sc2 community (those that actually went to events instead of yadda yadda yadda over online) than the dota community which threatens to settle outside or other hooligan act...
if u actually went to the events and interact with them, it is such a great experience...

btw: where is the writeup/ pics for FXO #1???

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Nov 30 2011, 11:29 PM

there's a big difference between: -
- trash talk for drama/ rivalry/ hype like idra, naniwa, mc etc (that's why they are damn famous and getting well paid)... SotG last week talked about this and even compared idra vs ret... both similar in skill but vast difference in followers/ fans/ sponsors/ salary...
- issuing threats like what dotards love... in sc2 one of such person which come to mind is combatEX... look at how the community in sc2 cast him aside until recently he realize how bad it is being shafted...

+1 on this...
he play all 3 races n qq all 3 races...
the perfect embodiment if something called BALANCED

why i get quoted when i am talking about kaiz O.o
u jelly he got fanboys?

Depends cause some bars I have went to like zeta bar have no cover charge. Usually the cover would be around 30. Unless you are talking about rooftop bars then those are costlier.

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Added on December 3, 2011, 2:34 pmEh wait daigo was in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 3 2011, 02:34 PM

pretty much, having ceremonies is one thing but this is a whole new level...
do notice THIS IS DONE WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING AND BEING CASTED...
that's just totally retarded...
i do follow pro CS events and they do celebrate taunt etc but it was done after the game/ match...
doing this midgame is jz unsportmanship like...

then again this is DOTA lol..
in sc2, doing this for 5 sec = losing 30 actions or so, ur macro gonna get screwed up and tat 5 sec u can get ur army raped by the opponent...

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Added on December 4, 2011, 3:32 pmu realize that guy was standing up and shouting at the opposing team?
it is nt communication between teammates, it is taunting another team in the middle of the game...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 4 2011, 03:32 PM

It is one of the few events with lag and dc via LAN more than bnet 2.0 and mainstage pc havifng bsod. Total failure.

And ya getting a warning is reasonable. Major had a warning in mlg as well for raging.

Why are they not on headset when it is being fasted behind is beyond me as well.

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Added on December 4, 2011, 8:19 pmI can imagine your rage like you always do Skype rotfl.

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 4 2011, 08:19 PM

we did it, we got esport trending worldwide again!!!

well scbw was nt really a big thing in the foreign scene btw...
it is quite the KR thing compared to sc2...

btw in fxo2, have dodo who is 14 years old only playing in the tournament this time besides echo n rayzer who came all the way to penang...
their dedication is <3

yeah...
boxer nestea etc are 30ish =p

btw what's ur IGN?
are u the guy i met at the FXO 2 tournament last month?

oops mistaken u then >.<
btw: Y U NO JOIN?

comparing a once a year tournament (breaking all teams after tat) against one which runs 3 times a year, with 3 regional events running on 3 different timezones (WCS2 finals is this weekend btw) which is just a qualifier for the main WCS event at Blizzcon which haven even happen yet... sounds legit...

jz play what u are happy instead of comparing, learn not to compare apple with oranges cause ppl comparing esport games e-peen is retarded... learn to accept that more esport games especially on various genre (RTS vs Moba vs FPS vs Fighting) is good for exposure regardless... else i'll expect how ppl would QQ on the fighting game scenes as well

ps: SCBW was totally dead internationally, compared to what we have now even for sc2 scene alone; this is growth with more tournaments sprouting up as well...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 22 2013, 11:34 PM

note: Josh left FXO like almost year ago in case u dunno

and u have good dota2 teams like Kaipi which got fcked up by Valve in TI3 invites and missed out events from the lack of sponsors...
Blizzard outdid Valve in this regards before everyone worship Valve due to a once in a year tournament while they did nothing for smaller tournaments or even funding teams to survive all year long (especially lesser known teams or new bloods)...
look at the NA dota2 scene and how many offline Dota2 events is there...
know more about the dota2 scene b4 making comments about it geez...

sigh at TI3 bandwagons

Riot > Blizzard > Valve as far as eSport contribution goes...
and don't forget half of the TI3 prize pool were funded by the compendium buyers themselves...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 23 2013, 01:55 PM