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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V17, Saga FLX SE 1.6 -> PRESSURE YOUR PEERS

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post Nov 24 2011, 09:11 PM

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Hi Everyone! Me finally found V17!! tongue.gif

At first was wondering why no one posted since noon time! Really long long lunch break! Haha!!


Added on November 24, 2011, 9:18 pmps. @Bro Ericmaxman: Title of thread in 1st post here still V16!!
Btw Congrats on V17!! thumbup.gif

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post Nov 25 2011, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Nov 24 2011, 09:57 PM)
first post slightly revamped. please comment tongue.gif
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Keep up good work, Bro! icon_rolleyes.gif

Also Good morning, Everyone!! Hv a great wkend ahead!!
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post Nov 25 2011, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 25 2011, 10:05 AM)
Before zeone come telling me not to bash Proton, just wanna say I still love my Waja  tongue.gif

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No worries, Bro...after all we share similar interests? So, good or bad, we're in the same pot? tongue.gif

Juz that at times, cldn't help feeling Proton getting wrong end of the stick? whistling.gif

Moreover most ppl who bought Sagas kenot afford better/more xpensive rides. True? Hobson's choice kinda situation. rclxub.gif

Re latest FLX probs, kinda feel Proton rushed into launch...trying to maintain its competiveness; thereby shooting itself in the foot?
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Added on November 25, 2011, 2:58 pm
QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 25 2011, 02:41 PM)
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Tumpang lalu....
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Satisfied & beaming after a great wash & polish session? thumbup.gif

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post Nov 25 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 25 2011, 03:14 PM)
Fed up .... Anyway treat this as a lesson , don't always get attracted by the ads hehe. Kinda feel like got cheated when proton mention butterly smooth ride lol , jerking ride should be la lol
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Yup, as with most ads, believe only 10% of it as truth! Haha! whistling.gif
And yup, great "distraction" work there! FLXs are the "rage" now...kinda main reason me not post much these days... brows.gif

And yup2, that "black" pipe also present in FLs...probably cooling pipe for power steering fluid?

Btw me fr up North...shuttling at times between Alor Star & Pg... tongue.gif

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post Nov 25 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 25 2011, 04:11 PM)
LOL u should share more DIY to poison more member here.
Complaints only what i see from here.
Should change to complaint club ~ icon_idea.gif

ICIC nice to meet u then
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Likewise... thumbup.gif


Added on November 25, 2011, 4:28 pmps. Can confirm that "black" pipe is part of power steering piping system & since put infront of rad, it's for cooling the fluid.

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post Nov 25 2011, 04:58 PM

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Info re Synthetic Oils for anyone who needs to understand why prices vary so much for various "Fully Synthetic" Engine Oils :
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/images/...ICS%20v%202.pdf

So...do be clear abt the use of the word "Synthetic". tongue.gif

If want the BEST, aim for a TRUE FULLY SYNTHETIC oil but be willing to pay for it! whistling.gif
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post Nov 25 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ptghkl @ Nov 25 2011, 05:00 PM)
i ask them to pour fully... they mention jugak 5k need to servis...
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Need 2change oil filter @5k Km. However juz top up fully syn eng oil...not need 2change yet. tongue.gif

NB. Many Fully Syn oils are only highly refined mineral oils or what is known as "hydrocracked" oils. Pls read info @link me posted earlier : http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/images/...ICS%20v%202.pdf
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post Nov 26 2011, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 12:14 PM)
....if u want better pickup/light engine/easy to rev...buy oil that contains "ester and PAO"
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Such oils are TRUE synthetics... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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post Nov 26 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 01:56 PM)
FLX recommend use 10w-30
u can use 10w-30 no prob...long term use also no prob
as long as u dn't go lower than that
10w-40 is best of both world...light and engine protecting..of course not as light as 10w-30
you're lucky they didn't use 10w-50...that one is real thick oil that old car use to protect engine...and pickup totally no power
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How abt Mobil 1 5W50? True Fully Syn oil.
Me still hv 1 bottle leftover kept for my old ride? Was using it since that ride 1 yr old ie after warranty that time. Bearings & compression still good after 200+k Km. tongue.gif

Anyone using it? For BLM/FL?

Me thinking of using it fr 10k Km ... Comments, pls. TQ.

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post Nov 26 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 02:09 PM)
XW50 i think members here will say too thick
pickup no power + high FC..they will rage
but true..constantly use it will make the engine long lasting
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Somehow feel with AT one also kenot expect great diff in pickup due2 slight diff in viscosity.
Moreover true fully syn oil provides better lubricity compared to ordinary/hydrocracked oils. True?

So, besides better protection, one wld possibly wld get similar pickup, FC & gen performance cos better oil?


Added on November 26, 2011, 2:18 pmps. A good multigrade oil wld not reach its thickest grade if engine not stressed to that level, correct?
And if so stressed, it wld give much needed protection & not be too thin?

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post Nov 26 2011, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 02:20 PM)
not so sure cuz i've never use fully syn be4
but from what i know...the same grade 10w-40 semi syn and fully syn
the fully syn will feel lighter
i've never use so cannot comment
but my blm 1st service...the SC poured in 10w-50...i can tell u...the pickup sarks big time, car feels heavy
FC dunno cuz that time haven't start calculating FC
thn 2nd service onward...all along use 10w-40..feels way better
currently using ones with molybdenum...its feels way better than be4....so quiet and so smooth
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Re moly in those oils, it definitely results in quieter engines. I've used a moly additive in oils for a much earlier ride b4 oils with moly pre-added came in2 our market.

The only prob that may arise is...clogging of oilways after prolonged use cos moly is a solid suspended in the oils.
Any certified long term research materials on it?
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post Nov 26 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 02:39 PM)
yes..i read the forum...some old thread say that it will clog the oil filter
but recently someone uses it on a honda....no clogging happen already
now even eneos have it...should be ok
and that also a reason why ppl say eneos is good...becuz it contains moly in it as well
if u add revo addictives into it...thn it will have all the good things...moly, ester and PAO...
quiet, smooth, light, easy to rev, faster pickup
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Tks 4all yr responses/comments, Bro!! notworthy.gif

Yup, probably those guys hv refined the moly compds to such a fine state, thereby eliminating possible clogging. Nano-particles? tongue.gif

However hv yet to see those oils yu mentioned, easily available up North here. sad.gif


Added on November 26, 2011, 2:53 pm
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 02:48 PM)
center top should have sound
and right hand side of steering sound have sound as well..i know cuz i always press there
i only use 1 hand...right hand to drive only
go to SC and ask them adjust for it for u next service

the steering vibrate is normal...cuz the horn cover isn't attached to the steering..hence will vibrate when hit very rough and bumpy surface
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Yup, horn shld work as is.

Vibration is fine type...no sound wan. So, ok lo. Like previously mentioned (@peet) as long as safety is not compromised...? tongue.gif

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post Nov 26 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 02:59 PM)
what oil?...the 2 oil i mentioned is easily available
even automotive garage here in LYN also got ppl sell ah
liqui moly and eneos
if u scare to use liqui moly(germany) thn try eneos(japan)
i use liqui moly all becuz it not only have moly...i also want the MOS2 addictives in it
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Oils are bulky heavy items. Gonna b costly 2send fr central to north, rite?
Sorry, Bro, but moly = MOS2 (molybdenum disulphide), correct?

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post Nov 26 2011, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 03:16 PM)
i thought you're in KL or selangor area
but i think any state/place also got sell one...u have to search around or ask around
liqui moly would be harder to find but u can ask liqui moly FB page there got a e-mail address..u can ask them where got sell in your place....its imported so its harder to find
but i dn't think eneos is hard to find...many workshop carry it
when u drive by a workshop at roadside or shop...look at the top of the shop...there should be a signboard saying eneos with logo thereC

i think also cuz when i go to the shop there..they got sell 1 bottle 1 bottle(small 300ML) MOS2 addictives
i think thats the moly
cuz i heard some ppl...they use normal oil...thn they pour in that small bottle of MOS2....almost same effect
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Tks a meg, Bro, 4all good suggestions! thumbup.gif
Will do when free 2roam. brows.gif

Re small bottle of MOS2, dat's wat me did 4my much earlier ride. However, also very rare arnd these parts now!
Can only find lots of local-made products these days... Protectionism? sad.gif
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post Nov 26 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 04:15 PM)
those liqui moly oil, MOS2 addictives and ceratech
only shop that carry it will have it..cannot find in those spare part shop...
...and somemore liqui moly products are imported....not made here
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Yup, dat's MAIN prob! tongue.gif

And yup agin re being imported adds 2prob of availabilty! sad.gif

Tks 4time & info, Bro! Appreciate it! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Nov 26 2011, 05:18 PM)
my car running with shell ultra, can anyone pls confirm does this oil contain PAO,esther or moly??

will try eneos nxt service..really that power??
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Definitely NO moly!
Labels also not mention re actual contents...so kenot confirm if got PAO or esthers. rclxub.gif

Anyone can?
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Nov 26 2011, 05:49 PM)
aiseh..wasted $$ on shell ultra, hmm..btw any recommended oil with ester or PAO.

btw any engine oil addictive i can add in (ester/pao)??
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IMHO NOT really wasted cos Shell Ultra FS still good FS oil!
Acc2 Bro MR_alien, got additives available. Juz need 2find stockists.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2011, 06:02 PM)
no recommendation..any oil that contains those will be good
what brand...those expensive ones....motul..etc
motul is Ester
Amsoil is PAO
Redline is Ester
Mobil 1 is PAO

from what i searched
Group V oil - Esters
Group IV oil - PAO
Group III oil - hydrocracked - castrol...i think petronas and shell fall into this as well

read the label...if the oil have this..they certainly will include it in the label of the bottle...

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Info re whether Mobil 1 uses PAO base oils here. Q&A by Mobil >>> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO..._Base_Oils.aspx

A slightly diff worded answer for Mobil Extended Performance oils here >>> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO...l_Question.aspx

So...? whistling.gif

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post Nov 26 2011, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Nov 26 2011, 06:31 PM)
that doesnt answer the question ya  blink.gif so still is a question??
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Juz confirms that the Ext Perf oil does hv some PAO in it altho not all is PAO... tongue.gif
So final decision rests upon the User...as alwaz! It's a Biznes World after all said & done! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(daMieNyuZry @ Nov 27 2011, 05:36 AM)
waahh.... v17 sudah...reporting in...


Added on November 27, 2011, 5:49 am

i wonder if i can trade in my 3 months old Saga FL to that FLX S.E? hmm.gif
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How much do yu think yu gonna get 4yr FL? (Std/Exec?...Auto/Manual?) tongue.gif

ps. Good Morning, Everyone!! How's wkend?

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