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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V17, Saga FLX SE 1.6 -> PRESSURE YOUR PEERS

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MR_alien
post Dec 1 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 1 2011, 04:27 PM)
No need maintenance la, mine clocked 53k haven't service once.... laugh.gif
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need...just that we dn't know when only..cuz no sign like disc type
and we dn't know anything abt it either...inside is very complicated..alot of spring and stuff
mine clocked 75k...and i dn't care abt it already ...lazy to care abt it..many problems
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post Dec 1 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 1 2011, 04:48 PM)
I dun see any complication...just a simple structure only....spring is to pull the brake shoes away from touching the brake hub during cruising, and the pump between the brake shoes is to push it towards brake hub during braking...i saw alot of drum brake changed before, and most of them is brake bump leakage...

Whats your problem actually? maybe you are the unlucky one...anyway dun expect drum brake too much, just when you pull handbrake the car can stay stationary at slope is more than enough...
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i see them open b4 as well
when they open the cap..it looks simple..1 spring and some part and they opened it somemore inside
lots of small parts inside
and the time and work involved to fix it is a lot
lots of time = high labour
lots of part = high maintainance...need to replace alot of part
last time when its be4 20k..i claim like 3-4 times from SC already
they fix...ok..after like 1 week..its back...and it repeats
got once they changed the shoes...discovered that makan 1 side only...lucky its free cuz they have "1" spare shoes..not "1 pair"
until now still makan 1 side
how i know?...when i change my abs...they jacked it up and i didn't know they pulled the handbrake..i got nothin to do thn go spin the wheel
the left wheel can freely spin...the right wheel is locked...thn i go see..the handbrake is on
useless piece of stuff...now i dn't use it already...even on slope its useless
oh..and the handbrake lever is loose2 one...i ask them to tighten it...after awhile..loose back...loose as in can move sideways loose

ps: changing a brake pad for my disc only takes less thn 30 min
asking them to fix that dam drum brake at SC will cost u AT LEAST 2 hours
open it is easy...putting it back is the hard part...every small part has to go back where it belongs...
some need the screwdriver to pull it into place....sometime i see them use hammer...lots of parts

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post Dec 1 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 1 2011, 05:14 PM)
Then you really unlucky lo...i try to spin my tyre during jack up, both tyre also lock, at slope also no problem...i bet something wrong with your drum brake hose, force distributed unevenly or even one of them is blocked...
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not sure...claim from SC many times already
ask..somemore they say its normal
mean all along this 4 year..my drum brake is makan 1 side
the left side shoes is brand new all along

not just me...i've got a member here...sabah's saga driver also PM to complain abt the drum brake/hand brake...asking me for advice on how to fix
his case is he always go to his uncle's hse...his uncle's house no parking, need to park abit away and its a slope
and even on full pull...it will always go back
and somemore his car is manual...no "P"
if not wrong...he change his cylinder to a bigger one

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post Dec 1 2011, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 1 2011, 05:21 PM)
Yup, just do not simply claimed drum brake is suck becos your own bad experience on that...most car i saw <1600cc also use drum brake behind, and we have to accept it...

Like Zeone said, find a experience mechanics to fix your problem, there are alot outside, why insist must go to SC? even repair outside only cost you once only, rather than you go back SC wasting time and energy and with frust outcome...becos for sure now this is isolated case, if the drum brake really that bad, alot of us sure suffer and complain adi...


Added on December 1, 2011, 5:24 pm

Interested to know more about your theory, can elaborate more?
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maybe will find someone to fix it soon
but in sabah...not so sure which mech is skillful in this kind of stuff
and its not gonna be cheap as that saga driver that PM me say
its bad...and it's not just me that say that
last time when i go my SC...2-3/10 car being jacked up just to fix their drum brake...all claim warranty one
i know cuz i always go back there and see and chat with them
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post Dec 1 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 1 2011, 05:29 PM)
This case is different with urs, at least not brake one side...somemore for manual car you can always put into 1st gear when you no confident on your handbrake...
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mine might be makan 1 side
but if i pull it long enough...it still makan...mean the car will stay still but only minor slope(really minor)
mean the right side is holding it ALL
LOL
i just checked back the PM he send me
he said the cylinder is jammed
to fix it...need to repair the cylinder
RM25 per cylinder(both jammed as he said the mech say)
RM18 for a bottle of brake fluid
RM90 for 2 hour labour
after that pull 2-3 times ok already but after 3 week...the number increase to 4 thn so on......
and that mean its not permanent..always need to fork out money to fix it
so its not cheap/time saving...like disc brake
thats why i say disc brake is better

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post Dec 1 2011, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Dec 1 2011, 06:02 PM)
Base on my experience, drum brake failure are due to:

1. No proper bleeding? air trap may cause brake will be uneven.
2. Brake hose clogged?
3. Using cheapo brake pump? always leaks.
4. Wrong assembly of the brake pump kit.
5. Using wrong DOT brake fluid.
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1.2.5 is not a problem when i see them fixing it
only left is 3 and 4 only
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post Dec 1 2011, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 1 2011, 07:10 PM)
3? Cheapo brake pump(cylinder)?
If so, then it's vendor's poor QC for that batch of Sagas... sad.gif

4? Wrong assembly...? Reflects on poor mech skills! sad.gif
So, alwaz safer & econ 2replace than service. tongue.gif

However, as previously stated, yrs is NOT hydraulic probs BUT mechanical brake (handbrake) probs ie when in park mode. Correct?
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not sure oh....i only knw the handbrake always have problems
and brake is makan 1 side
real problem is what..am not sure
i already give up long ago
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post Dec 1 2011, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 1 2011, 07:17 PM)
Pls don't give up, Bro...
Alwaz got solutions 4mechanical probs wan, ok? Juz need to get right guy to do correct diagnosis of prob nia.

Wish yu all the best, Bro! icon_rolleyes.gif
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might be fixing it
but need to find that right mech and $$$
or probably won't fix it cuz its not permanent
or might try it...if still like that thn give up
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post Dec 1 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 1 2011, 08:42 PM)
any review from Q8 and motul engine oil?
i saw some promotion rm99 only for regular svc car included labour charge
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all those are good and expensive oil
why got RM99?
better check properly
the oil itself is way more expensive than RM99 already
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post Dec 1 2011, 09:31 PM

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if yes...thn i'd recommend the Q8 advanced
the motul seem cheap...real motul is the V3000
truthfully say..even the petronas syntium already RM107-9 alone after price hiked twice

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post Dec 2 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 2 2011, 09:47 AM)
1 tank 700km godlike already. lol
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1 tank 700KM is in the hybrid zone already
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post Dec 2 2011, 08:34 PM

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i think its LHD export model
cuz if u see the aircon panel...there are 2 button instead of 1
but i think how they place the fog lamp button with the double signal there...more convenient
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post Dec 2 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 2 2011, 08:48 PM)
Noticed more things now... tongue.gif
More adjustments for selection of aircon vents operations...ours only open/close!
Yup, Proton shld hv kept dimmer switch as for BLMs & put Fog Lamp switch as in Export model.

Msians alwaz get lousy bargain wan...Msian car but less features for own ppl!! Also not at cheaper price, too!
We alwaz pay for our own cars 2b exported...4others 2enjoy @ our expense!! doh.gif
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yup....there more selection of aircon which is the 1st switch which is why got 2 button instead of one
previous export model also like that
which one is the dimmer switch?
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post Dec 2 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 2 2011, 09:07 PM)
Dimmer switch (rheostat) was where fog/spot lamp switch is now...tongue.gif
Previous BLMs can dim instrument panel lighting... wink.gif
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mine is BLM
u mean the 2 setting of headlamp is it?
1st is dim headlamp + instrument light
thn 2nd is full headlamp is it?
but fog lamp is a separate button


Added on December 2, 2011, 9:57 pm
QUOTE(frella @ Dec 2 2011, 09:47 PM)
how come here in fast & furious dun have proton tuah or pahlawan series talk?


Added on December 2, 2011, 9:55 pmi mean tered
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cuz they're concept car
no one makes concept car for sell

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post Dec 2 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 2 2011, 10:16 PM)
Nope. Not the headlamp switch on the lever.
If yu hv the fog lamp button, then yu don't hv the dimmer control. tongue.gif

It's in models that do NOT hv the fog lamps...
So then, in the same location as the fog lamp switch is an adjustable knob to dim the instrument lights. wink.gif

ps. It's shown in the User Manual...in my copy, that is...  rolleyes.gif
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oh...no wonder..haha
mine is with fog lamp

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post Dec 3 2011, 10:41 AM

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@Kaellis
use better tyres
and to be safe...only do it when its dry
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post Dec 3 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Kaellis @ Dec 3 2011, 11:02 AM)
stock goodyear tyre
lucky no other car at that time doh.gif
broken already, cannot push it inside anymore
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stock tyre is useless in wet...change better tyre
and since broken thn change new one lo...cheaper and faster
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post Dec 3 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(tyco_5009 @ Dec 3 2011, 11:32 AM)
Stock tyre goodyear not good?
My friend's BLM stock tyre was silverstone.he says silverstone no good, will skid..
Can i ask whats the use of carbon fibered hood?comestic purpose or somting else?very new here..jz got my FLX last wednesday.
And don worry i wont be asking bout FC,engine oil ^^
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stock tyre usually no good...they won't just give u a good tyre or sport tyre
those tyre are only for normal use...even normal use is still noisy
but still better than those NCT5
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post Dec 3 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Dec 3 2011, 11:58 AM)
Synergy M3 is crap. Kruizer I NS700 is brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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how much? brows.gif
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post Dec 3 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kaellis @ Dec 3 2011, 01:26 PM)
my front tyre change to michelin xm2 only back stock

no abs really scary sweat.gif

let see if tonite still brave to try that corner brows.gif

at 11.30PM not much car should be safe
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no ABS is the same for me
WTF...u go try again?....your thought is since bumper need to change..thn hentam sampai hancur is it?
HAHA

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