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V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry
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ChanK
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Apr 12 2012, 09:58 AM
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our MCA top leader son said that, he only come in to help out us to sell our nests...after that whether the local dept let u to keep operating or not is up to THEM, he cannot help.
and he assured that no monopoly in this industry..
and datuk liow also no sight of him liao..as agri dept is in charge now.
Datuk ong already helped us in keep pushing our PM to help us.
So, ordinary farmers are again been strip naked n exposed to the big C, the big M, and now the BIG SC controlling the whole bird's nest market.
still got hope or not.......how i wish i can still said got hope !!....still can see the light guiding us at the end of the tunnel.....
with the strict guidelines to get the licence....all the ah ma n ah sun n ah pak processing plants in kampung will closed shop. all small time players will closed shop. so, left with the 8 or 9 or maybe some powerful individuals or groups will managed to fight for their own licences will be able to sell bird's nest in china.
This will cause a major major problem to ordinary farmers, it means, the prices will not be back to the same old level.......
but one thing the Top Leader MCA son did successfully, he just chase away many high core MCA followers to vote for the opposition for the rest of their remaining life.....
1Malaysia boleh.
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ChanK
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Apr 12 2012, 04:53 PM
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what else can we do except stay optimistic.
the way buyers nowadays buy nests are so selective that we will get only reasonable price for white, no feathers nests ( tht is not even half the price we use to get for super). the rest will be either u eat it urself or sell to them at low low cutting throat price. why is that happening...as buyers know what we will face just liked indonesian farmers when their nests are not allow to sell to china due to bird flu n have to sent the nests to malaysia and all the extra costs are been transfer to the farmers there n now their costs are even higher as they need to sent it to vietnam before heading to china.... we are facing the same dillema, with only few buyers are allow to export, with less buyers...just really hope that an association will come out n get a licence and will provide services to small timers to export bn to china...but then again....it will cost them money to do that n where to cover that extra expenses?...farmers.....sai hei....dui lah...
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ChanK
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Apr 13 2012, 07:07 PM
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finally tan sri cheng voiced out for us...lets see how it turn out... but, even if sai hei also need to say it here... for the future of our kids (including our birds), rm10 is all it takes to help them out : http://www.savemalaysia-stoplynas.blogspot.com/they need fund for legal action to stop it.
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ChanK
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Apr 14 2012, 03:41 PM
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one of my friend cried when he sold his nests to collectors few days ago at average rm1.3k a kilo for corner nests. he asked when all this will goes back to normal.
i told him and everyone is telling all that all these nonsense can stop by only
changing the govt this time.
i am scare of this going to happen n also my friend too...but then we think....diao....change also die, no change also die....
die die lah!!!...pui!...change. we make our mind to change side every five years then we don't side only to one party, thts what we call
1Malaysia.
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ChanK
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Apr 16 2012, 11:12 PM
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When a pioneer told the same story about our present associations problem and never depended on them....but his advices was unpopular to many....orang sudah buat, apa u cakap nih? siapa mau monopoly...mana ada monopoly?.....when winds blow...there is always a reason....and it is all too late to blah here......just prepare to be squeeze n juice out by them..these goes to both town or agriland farms...the nightmares is just baru start nih....
this is why many towns u see no new birds anymore....why?
once i approach a farmer n questioned him what he did is wrong, he ask me, so, since u are so compassionate with beings....are u a full vegetarian?..u eat meats or not? u eat eggs or not? ohh....u eat??....so, u are selectively compassionate is it? the birds show u the money so u show humane with them n chicken eggs or meats don't show the money n u can eat them n feel good about it? i shut my mouth....he is right.
chitchai, there is no fixed price in bn now....whoever desparate will sell it low, n whoever can hold it will get a better price. if u can hold, u hold...else, expect them to quote u the same old price for old stocks...they know which is old stock n which one is new.
got extra money just buy agri land...sure untung one....even bukit also can...( except the govt forcefully take back lah...hehehe). u will be surprise even bukit beruntung land prices are shooting up too...don't play play..
All the local authorities are against town farms for ONE N ONLY REASON....they don't want to receive any complaints about farms from residents...as they need to clear all files n closed it instead...complaints keep coming n piling...what u want them to do? of course they want u down!!....i mau datang pagi, minum teh..10am pergi makan nasi lemak dan teh tarik lagi, petang makan lama sikit...lagi syiok kalau boleh balik rumah tidur sekejab dan tunggu pukul tiga minum teh lagi sama goreng pisang n pukul 5 tepat balik rumah....if u also u want like that lah....don't blame them.
so, why the associations refuse to stop all this nonsense? to shut the sound? because some of the committee members have new farms in town that they need to use sound to attract birds loh...who is right? who is wrong?
tidur lah...
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ChanK
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Apr 18 2012, 10:03 AM
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uncle ww, u are right in ur view point n my friend is right in his own view point. if everyone believe in cause n effects then this world tak jadi begitu kelam kabut le. if our politicians n officers believe in causes n effects, they knew that the effects of corruption is when they die they will reborn as cow for many many life until they repay back all the money they siphone from the rakyat. kalau u tau ini adalah effects, u tak berani makan duit lah... and if farmers believe in causes n effects, they will not dare to steal bn that still used by the swiftlets or kills swiftlets as by stealing the bn, next life u will have the effects of peoples keep stealing from u. and by killing, next life u will have alot of sickness. unfortunately, whether u believe it or not...causes n effects still follow u forever....but peoples don't worry about causes, they only worry about effects.... dui lah.....by the way....can any ah long borrow some money to us, poor farmers to buy the RFID chip kah?.....but still why need to tract farms when nitrite is naturally existed in the first place and most of the unnatural n exceed nitrite level comes from the processors? why forcing farmers to buy RM4k a unit to tract what? why selangor bn association never raise this question n blur blur go n accept? good business leh, RM4,000 a unit, 60,000 farms = 240,000,000.00
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ChanK
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Apr 19 2012, 11:08 PM
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hahaha....chitchai....
one of my friend trying to sell his nests last week..n the collector come and said that ...wah....i never see such nests before leh....my friend ask...so, is it good or what?...the collector said....u know ahh....if yellow or pink still better but ur nests color are orange lah...so arr....i can only give u 1.6 for this...
hahaha....i guess thts what u call golden....but buyers got their own color tone chart...gold mean orange....hehehe...
come back to the cow thing...i think they just way too good for their kids..as they are trying to siphone enough money to maintain his/her childrens lavish lifestyles n also for their cucu, cucu punya cucu...but they should really instruct their great grand children that the whole family group must be vegetarian after he die...else....can u imagine....they use ur dirty money to buy that beef ( you ) n eat it ( you )....oh shit...cannot imagine that to happen....guess...end of the story of cause n effects before everyone in this forum start to vomit...
the demand of nests are picking up as buyers knew that next round of nests will be heavy with feathers..they are offering rm300 extra for cup nests.....but the price is what we sell broken nests last year....
sop..sop.....
Added on April 19, 2012, 11:11 pmn one of friend change his driver lah...
he said ahh...pui...this guy every morning also drunk punya...for sure he will very soon take me to holland...so, i better change this driver lah....at least ahh...if don't change, sure die ( 100%) but if change ahh...50% chance to survive...so, change or not?
but seriously, we need to take up the suggestion from Hai-O group to set up a protem to tackle this issue, if we can tie up Tan sri Cheng of parkson group, Hai-O and etc that have strong link in china to protect us from the sharks...then we have a tiny hope to survive.
spread the words before too late...
This post has been edited by ChanK: Apr 20 2012, 08:59 AM
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ChanK
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May 3 2012, 08:36 PM
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Anything to do with 1 means one! What it means? U know I know lah....ah sum or ah pak also knows what it means...it means only one lah....no two or three or four or five...it means 1. 1 only. If two then 1 is not really meaningful Liao.
Wah...kohl oh!!!! This is really good news lah....not tsunami....it is life saving to ordinary farmers....at least it is not only one....at least got two lah...in not very future got three.....Vietnam.
In Malaysia, more licences might issue as our big taikohs are going big in birdnest ....hai o, park soon, every green.
My friend Kena kick on duduk n ask to go back china....he said he also want to go back but no money as china is developed country n housing so expensive...he can only afford to stay here....third world country...
But he is saving money to make sure his children's will get a better future elsewhere....the world is big, see farther...that's my opinion lah.
This post has been edited by ChanK: May 3 2012, 08:38 PM
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ChanK
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May 4 2012, 08:10 PM
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Well,it is still good news to Malaysia farmers as we have other option to sell the raw nests. Till now,Indonesia still the biggest buyer of bn here...realistically, though Indo still biggest producer of bn....but they still need Malaysia nests to cope with the demand. Of course,if u sell this month,u will not get a good price as Indo are having good harvest n selling like pasar malam. Expect prices to drop few hundreds n more stringent selection....that's very much to supply n demand cycle.
Whether they going to sell directly or not really not very important n I personally think is good. Just like hai o n maybe parkson, if parkson going to see bn in all their dept stores in china which parkson is consider high end stores selling good quality products n I m sure they will attract a lot of wealthy Chinese to buy our Malaysian nests. Same goes hai o with their link in china,I'm sure they going to do well too.
It is still better than only 1 right?
But for sure kohloh will untung Kua Kua this time ...
Added on May 4, 2012, 8:19 pmIf u look back the future,10 years ago when farmers here are just harvesting small qty bn, Indonesia still come in n buy bn fr them...imagine that time they are big producer,that's why, they will still need us,n Thailand,n Vietnam n now Cambodia for supply....
Always remember, birds eat insects to survive n to feed their kids.....what is the supply of insects in Indo n Malaysia?.....it is getting less n less with development, clearing of forest for logs, clearing of forest for oil palm plantations....all this equal to lower insects supply....Indo nests are dropping n Malaysia will too.....
Unless all birds eat dust to survive then different lah...hehehe...
This post has been edited by ChanK: May 4 2012, 08:19 PM
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ChanK
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May 7 2012, 09:51 AM
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So sad, Malaysian processors are congratulating Indonesia for receiving their export permissions fr china....whats wrong with this country until even their own citizen not supporting them! Sad.
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ChanK
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May 8 2012, 03:04 PM
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Tak apa lah uncle ww...sarang tak laku boleh jual lain barang dululah.. Besides bird's nest, we can sell swiftlets guano as natural organic fertilizer to make some money lah... FOB price for guano fertilizer is rm1.80 per kilo !!! Instead of waiting Beatles to digest the bird shits,we can use EM1 to convert the raw shits into odourless guano in a week. Banyan untung oh.... Oh shit, now expose it here our govt will again mono the whole fertilizer market again.... 1guano or 1mal shits boleh....hei....sound not bad though.
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ChanK
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May 9 2012, 05:51 PM
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Name me one Malaysian tht becomes rich helping indo sell through malaysia......hmmm......
kohloh!!!!!.
Hehehehe..die lah kohloh, u Kena this time...
Btw, how many kg of the so called Indo nests are actually Indo nests?
The figure is fake one...
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ChanK
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May 10 2012, 06:38 PM
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Don't freak lah, bn producers same as bn farmers....see or heard are liked super rich or loaded with cash...mostly heard or see nice only..how many actually becomes rich in this trade? Mostly are rich in debts n imagination runs wild to think that one day they will also can becomes liked setiawan inspector or Chen or 20millions cucu family or Sarawak bird king .....imagine n hope only.....mostly earn enough to talk k among each other...meaning Shiok sendiri....hehehe....
Added on May 10, 2012, 6:47 pmA very funny situation last week, me n my friend Makan in a new shopping mall n my friend sailang his business n one of it bn...then he said he used to make this much fr bn....then he ask the panmee guy,how much he make a month fr selling panmee? He said rm80,000 a month only.....my friend liked stunned...hehhee...
The panmee guy said very little Liao compare to his father shop that sell 4 times what he sell!!! N he said his income even less than his friend that sell wanton mee in kopitiam...the wanton mee guy can buy one new mercediz every month with his income...
How many farmers can make such money fr bn? .001%?
That's why very funny they want to mono this trade...oops....1wantonmee, 1panmee.
This post has been edited by ChanK: May 10 2012, 06:47 PM
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ChanK
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May 11 2012, 11:08 PM
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Of course true le...but same as bn, o.oo1% wanton mee n panmee make this kind of money loh...hehehe...have to explain it just in case we will be flooded wt panmee n wanton mee stalls just liked bird farms...
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ChanK
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May 17 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Cergau @ May 17 2012, 12:10 PM)  demand is not catching up wt supply.....
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ChanK
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May 23 2012, 06:19 PM
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Pui until no more air liur pun tak Ada guna...
All farmers are n will have their balls squeeze tight tight n dt dare to say a word...if u dare..squeeze u until u panggil mama pun tak Ada tenaga..
How good our future is...
For two days I Makan pagi in my kopitiam, first day I heard a group of ah sum n ah pek...wah u know ahh..all those red nests we buy n eat arr..all come from where u know? They use bird shits to ferment one lah...nai sing..some more buy so expensive!!! I tell u better don't eat whether it is red or white.
Today,another group talk abt bird's nest also, an auntie said to another group, u see the govt said check all those farms,I heard all the nests got ammonia one...u know ammonia?...poison lah...those who buy it are crazy..
These two days newspaper are reporting the RFID thing n this is what the consumers are talking abt....bloody h, got future or not?
Even now I don't dare to tell my new friend that I do farming...they will look at me liked I m kan shiong...black businessman..
Go n call any bn buyers now, they will,pui u n ask u to fly kite lah..
I heard farmers are now damn angry, frustrated n willing to do just anything to let out their steam...hope nothing bad will happen. But when u push all the crazy ppls into one. Orner,what will they do, god knows...
Added on May 23, 2012, 6:43 pmBy the way,they can wait for another year...or another 10 years as they only invested rm500,000 in their monopoly business n they have no loan to pay.
U die u die lah...
This post has been edited by ChanK: May 23 2012, 06:43 PM
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ChanK
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May 24 2012, 05:23 PM
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I make a small mistake,I apologise as u die u die lah....it did not stop there.. When u die, now, u can only choose one n only cremation company here to burn ur dirty body..the company has licence to do that legally n all this is to make sure that all the procedures are been follow...hehe...u die u die lah....but still.....u mati pun Kena Ada licence to die peacefully....ze mei... Every Malaysians nightmare start wt...1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1.......... Added on May 24, 2012, 5:26 pmAll birds without the RFID tag in future will be stop from entering legal birdhouse as when the bird enter the house n the scanner at inlet hole detect an illegal entity...it will trigger the fire gun to BBQ the illegal bird. Manganese main main ya!!!! This post has been edited by ChanK: May 24 2012, 05:26 PM
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ChanK
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May 25 2012, 05:02 PM
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Chit chai very good price leh...
U got developed country price while here we got third world country price..
Cannot envy lah...u have a very good govt indeed. At least ur leading govt dt saps habis n still leave some to ordinary citizens to make a living.
In Thailand u alway say sawadicup, here they say sapusemua.
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ChanK
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May 28 2012, 07:11 PM
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Prices drop rm200...imagine that!!!....now less than 2k..
While everyone shouting complaining to stop RFID, officer is rushing to china to sign agreement to push it before too late...it is final. The end.
Maybe we can ask our farm shifting specialist to move our farm to Thailand?. Then we might have some little hopes.
Added on May 28, 2012, 7:16 pmMany farmers are dumbing their stocks...this make the situation worst...can't blame them..they need it to survive...look around the market..it is drop dead..look at the shopping centres...all mostly window shopping...only eating place still got some buz...n that too they have to cut prices to survive.....
It is getting worst n the leaders don't care much except worry their stay in power will be very short n trying to walup anything they can grab....sad...very sad indeed.
This post has been edited by ChanK: May 28 2012, 07:16 PM
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ChanK
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May 30 2012, 10:22 AM
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Good price. I will let go mine if offer this price but maybe the buyer saw my few hundreds grams so not interested...soap....its not easy to accumulate few hundred grams of bn...it takes 5 harvest just to collect 50 nests n that is a lot already....soap...n that is three months of waiting...soap....n 50 times climbing up n down ladder to collect it n risking our life as anything can happen during the climbing up n down..soap..one step mistake,we will fall down n hit our head....soap...
Soap....no more mood to talk abt bn anymore....soap.
Added on June 1, 2012, 6:00 pmALOR SETAR - Bagi menyelesaikan pelbagai masalah yang timbul dari perusahaan burung walit di Kedah, maka kerajaan negeri melaksanakan Program Pemutihan Premis Burung Walit Negeri Kedah Darul Aman.
Exco Kerajaan Tempatan, Bekalan Air, Sumber Air dan Tenaga, YB Dato’ Ir. Phahrolrazi Zawawi berkata, selepas program pemutihan dilaksanakan maka pihaknya dapat mengawal aktiviti perusahaan burung walit dan juga dapat memantau operasi industri ini daripada semua aspek termasuk perancangan, pemeliharaan alam sekitar, nilai estetika dan kepentingan awam.
Beliau berkata demikian semasa bercakap di sidang media mengenai melaksanakan Program Pemutihan Premis Burung Walit Negeri Kedah Darul Aman di Wisma Darul Aman.
“Program pemutihan yang dijalankan adalah untuk memastikan pengusaha mematuhi garis panduan dan bagi menjamin kualiti sarang burung walit yang dihasilkan.
“Melalui program ini pengusaha perlu mendaftar dan memohon lesen sementara dengan Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan (PBT) dengan bayaran RM180 berbanding kadar biasa yang lebih tinggi,” katanya.
Menurutnya, selepas mendapat lesen sementara ini, mereka perlu memohon lesen tetap untuk premis tersebut yang melibatkan dua kaedah.
Premis yang mematuhi garis panduan akan diberikan terus lesen tetap manakala yang gagal patuhi garis panduan pula akan diberikan tempoh lima tahun untuk berpindah.
“Garis panduan yang dibenarkan adalah rumah burung dibina di kawasan zon industri atau pertanian, manakala bagi zon kediaman dan premis perniagaan tidak dibenarkan.
“Kita tidak akan bertindak kejam dengan merobohkan bangunan itu tetapi akan meminta mereka memohon lesen sementara untuk tempoh lima tahun,” katanya.
Tambahnya lagi, kerajaan negeri tidak akan lagi berkompromi dengan pengusaha burung walit sekiranya mereka tidak mematuhi Kod Amalan Baik Penternakan Burung Walit Jabatan Veterinar, selepas program pemutihan berakhir 30 jun ini.
Pengusaha yang masih berdegil dan enggan mendaftar dengan PBT dan Jabatan Veterinar serta tidak memiliki lesen, maka mereka akan berdepan dengan tindakan tegas termasuk denda dan bangunan dirobohkan.
“Selain itu, disebabkan masih ramai pengusaha belum mendaftarkan premis mereka selepas pelancaran program pemutihan bermula 1 Julai hingga 31 Disember 2011 lalu, maka kita akan lajutkan lagi tempoh sehingga 30 Jun ini.
“Selepas Jun ini kita tidak akan teragak-agak untuk mengambil tindakan berdasarkan Undang-Undang Kecil PBT kerana sudah banyak kali kita bertolak ansur dalam garis panduan ini,” jelasnya.
Katanya lagi, dianggarkan jumlah keseluruhan premis pengusahaan burung walit di Kedah adalah sebanyak 1910 tetapi yang mendaftar hanyalah sebanyak 872 buah.
See, satu belumlah berlesai,lagi satu Sudah timbul....
This post has been edited by ChanK: Jun 2 2012, 08:57 AM
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