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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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northface
post Jan 22 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jan 22 2013, 03:44 PM)
That is kutu. Use pesticide called Fendona SC. Yellow bottle. Works nicely since previously we have this problem as well.
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I've been using Fendona since a year ago, every 2 weeks I spray. So if that's what you're saying shouldn't have this problem ma.
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post Jan 22 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jan 22 2013, 06:27 PM)
Wah weird. Do you sample of your nests? Need pictures to see eh.
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Aiya no camera with me, tomorrow i'll post a high resolution pic.
Anyways, it is along the back part where the BN sticks to the planks, the 'U' shape border.

A lot of very very TINY black dots, if don't pay attention also won't notice, they say that's called lumut.
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:56 PM

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Happy CNY to all the sifus here.

Hope you guys had a wonderful CNY with your families. As for the BN industry, everyday the stockpile of BN at my home grows bigger lol, don't know what to do with it.


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post Mar 9 2013, 04:28 AM

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Open roof like this, when rain where the water go?
Go all over your BH?

Something to think about.
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post May 10 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(sgmati @ May 3 2013, 04:28 AM)
Hi all.
I have 1 kg of bn. What will happen if I put all into washing machine and wash?
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After a long day of work, try crawling into your washing machine for a wash instead of taking a shower.

Then tell us what happened rclxms.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(tigerwui @ Jun 6 2013, 12:06 PM)
Hi all Sifu, need help badly due to my BH already 2 yrs & 10 months but only have 70 nests. My BH is single floor 20'X60' and using monkey house type. Is this type of partition good? Should I maintain or renovate the roving area?
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Maybe it is the dimension of your drawing, if your BH is actually to scale with such a design you're lucky you even have 70 nest inside.

The bird fly in, need to emergency U-turn, then U-turn 2nd time to get into nesting area.
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post Jun 10 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ May 29 2013, 02:19 PM)
LOL.... many of us tried chasing the owls away.  Some even to the extent of hiding inside the BH and trying to scare the owls.  Scarecrows inside and outside. Flash guns fired as the owl attacks, auto lights and lights on all night.  In the end the owls get smart and ignore the humans or come when they humans are not there.

Owls can hear and see very very well. A rat at 100m is no problem. It can detect if it is a real live human or just a sound. All it takes is time and they'll have learnt. It also recognises people and vehicles.  Nowadays I never get a chance to go near one when I carry a gun. They'll fly when my jeep arrives, but not my other car. They will not take a bait when I have a 'invisible' net above, but take it when the net is not there.

So far electrocution works and it does not kill them. Owls learn very quickly.  I have had times when electrocuted owls return but avoid stepping on the wires.
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Sifu Tuckfook.

Big problem, I have this owl that keeps coming back now I'm lost on how to deal with it.

First I nailed 2-3 vertical beams over my entrance hole, this prevented it from coming in for 1-2 months.
Now it is coming in again. Omg it probably stayed inside the BH like 2 weeks and ate at least 100 birds... heart so pain. cry.gif

Any sifus have suggestion what to do with returning owl.


My entrance hole already has high voltage cables to zap them but seems like this owl has learned the trick around it too.

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post Jun 10 2013, 12:11 PM

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And to bro Tiger,
Attached Image


Maybe shorten the 11 ft long partition, and shorten the 7 ft. long partition a little bit as to make the flight path of the birds easier.


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post Jun 14 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:14 AM)
Hmmm
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jun 14 2013, 11:14 AM)
Hmmm
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Nice pictures, but seems a little cruel.

That's a supersized mouse trap rclxms.gif
And not practical where do you even find something like that?
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post Jun 14 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(swift4ever @ Jun 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
It's practical if you catch them alive and set them free elsewhere. It's not if they starve to death when they are trapped If I may add. This trap was proven effective even set inside the premise.
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Where to get a trap like this?

Doesn't look like a mouse trap, looks like a trap hunters use to trap small mammals modified.
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post Jun 24 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 22 2013, 08:12 AM)
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...8554&sec=nation
9 companies approved!
Hope good days are coming.
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I heard someone saying that nowadays even if you want to sell your raw BN, you need to give a registration number of the BH that it comes from.

Is this true??
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post Jun 24 2013, 04:27 PM

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A person that owns lot of BH. He says that big BN factory in Puchong will buy raw EBN paying up to $1800 to $2000, but the EBN you need to provide the registration number of the BH it comes from.

First time I heard something like this too.
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post Jun 24 2013, 04:43 PM

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I forgot the name of that Puchong factory. That's the one that was already operating since like 2 years ago, and have bus loads of tourists from China visit their premise daily.

Rumored to be owned by some MCA bigshot. They probably have all the approvals needed.
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post Apr 1 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Mar 30 2014, 11:14 AM)
This MH370 problem has created lot of anti Malaysia feelings in China but I really don't understand why this has to be. It got nothing to do with us, the raayat of Malaysia and Malaysia as a country.
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That's what you call nationalism. In fact the Chinese government seem to turn a blind eye to such irrational wave of nationalism as it diverts the attention away from other pressing matters.
Same can be said for Malaysians in general that get very defensive when our ministers/government are lambasted for their inept performance in response to Flight 370's disaster.

Haven't been reading this forum for a while now but my 5x BHs are still up and running. Nests count have gone up but haven't been actively harvesting them. I just let my BH grow now, only harvest every 2 months or so because of the low EBN price.

Went to Jalan Pasar to look for some replacement twitters/chicken humidifiers, surprising to find those electronic shop like Darson that used to sell A LOT of BH related equipment stopped selling most of their products. Just shows you how bleak this industry has become.
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post Apr 18 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Barber @ Apr 16 2014, 12:09 PM)
Hi  Northface , sounds like ur from Teluk Intan ,
Free for "Yum Cha" pls check me up.
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Thanks for the invite sifu Barber but my BHs are located in Pahang and NS mainly, and I stay in KL .

Feel free to come yum cha when you're in KL biggrin.gif
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Rangnok @ Apr 21 2014, 05:03 PM)
Bird Nest House For Sell (On NON - BUMI Agricultural Land)

a. Pahang, 2.5acre, 28 x 100 x 2.5sty, min. 3500 nests
b. Terengganu, 1 acre, 30 x 120 x 3.5sty, min. 3500 nests

Should anyone interested, please kindly let me know thru' whatsapp or line or wechat at +66899678779. thanks.
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Last time when ppl value each nest at $800 to $1000 these BH can easily fetch 3 to 3.5M
I wonder whether ppl will pay 1.5M for these now.


Sifu WW do you know how much ppl value each nest in a BH nowadays?

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post Dec 2 2015, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(kel888888 @ Nov 30 2015, 10:40 AM)
As from a friends. 4 inch interval of wire at the entrance. Not steel bar. (Because the owl can crawl on the steel bar). This only apply for new comers. For those  had experience  in your bird house. Have to kau tim first
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For Owls I have tried before,
- Spotlights at entrance
- Bars spaced around 5inches apart at entrance hole
- Metal spikes

They all FAILED. However over last 12 months I have caught over 10 owls total in my BHs. Very headache, sometimes it is a like a whole damn family come, 3 owls living in the BH basically each taking up 1 storey.

The only fool proof method I have now is setting trap inside the BH itself, the problem with trap is you can only you hope catch it soon enough before all your swiftlets are eaten by em owls. 1 of my BH suffered serious decline in nests because the family of 3 owls basically devoured all the swiftlets. cry.gif

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post Dec 2 2015, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Nov 14 2015, 11:37 AM)
Owls are the most difficult problem other the the human ones .Light at the entrance don't work all the time cos some owls are used to the light and will fly in. even using bars to prevent them from entering doesn't work as owls can still crawl in. Spikes don't work too and all from my experiance with OWL.

I am trying to solve mine and even having trapped many, there are more coming and only last week, 2 more and I gave up trying to solve it at agriland. Weather and climate have cost decline in the number of new nests and human factors are the other problems causing the shortage of nests and if anyone can give assurance to the increament of nests within a time frame, I can give him double  his fee or nothing if it didn't work or pay by the number of new nests at Rm50/nest
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Sifu WW agri land BH for me in Bahau area is a nightmare, last month caught 2, this month see 2 more inside but they lari before I could hit them with a broom.

Combination of owl+haze+natural habitat, past 1 year my BH totally no improvement nest wise, really depressing.
Right now only reliable method against owls are traps, but it takes some time and you can't be there watching 24/7
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post Oct 9 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(coolandy @ Jul 31 2020, 09:50 PM)
Hi all, I haven't visited this thread for a long long time. Thanks for keeping it alive.
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Same here, amazing thread still alive and master WW still giving sound advice!

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