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Chinese speaking "只要金錢可以解決的哪會是問題"(if money can settle one, is not an issue)This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 7 2012, 01:37 PM
Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Apr 8 2012, 11:17 PM) Yesterday met my friend who are in the mortgage field. I asked him regarding overprice of housing properties in KV. He told me that housing property price will fall at the end of this year or the earlier of next year. If I were you, I will ask him the second question "how many times you hv make the wrong predictions? Since when?", apart fr accountant and valuer, mortgage broker is one of the most conservative people I ever met pertaining to property mkt forcerst (in general). Anyway somehow one day they will predict correctly... |
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Apr 13 2012, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 13 2012, 01:06 AM) i salute the 2 of you for braving to post this as this thread can be intimidating with so many tigers and crocodiles. Dun worry, LYN property forum members are constitute a small portion of the total buyer population only, even 100% of the posts saying mkt will crash (or vice versa), do you think mkt will react accordingly? No it won't give much impact at all..Look at Summer Suites, Kinrara Residence and Temasya Glenmarie launching, so many negative comments prior to the launch, but the actual response is overwhelming, I estimate 95% of the house buyers in the mkt never use or heard bout Lowyat forum, our comment dun hv much influence to the mkt movement.this is where it counts but many will deny and ignore. but like some, i understand many investors, speculators and agents lurking in lyn, wanna "wan sek", so it is not easy to be polite and non offensive. esp in this general forum thread. the naked truth, however you hate it, is while a minority new launches get snapped within hours (and many chose to cite temasya and reed but somehow not others), it is foolish albeit intentionally to ignore the bulk of new launches and subsale that aren't getting the same hot, spicy and juicy response. many bolehsians rich, can buy all hor...? please la.... i do not think asking subsale prices will drop 30%, but 10-15% is likely. and please wait for yr turn to sell as no serious buyer will rush. newbies buying left right and center this year hoping to fart, pls wake up. May need to wait 3-5 years. i stand by my position - 1. bolehsians aren't as rich as many think; 2. inflation will not go on and on w/o drop in demand in anything; 3. anytime is good time to buy a home for own stay, but not as investment. Buyer decides to buy was due to :- 1. Personal needs 2. Investment purpose / long term passive income or short term appreciation gain 3. Effective A&P by developers I.e sales campaign, show house and sales incentives 4. Influence by friends, property talk, seminars or forum like LYN 5. Hedge against inflation / currency depreciation 6. Replacement as Insurance protection (instead of buying insurance policy, some choose to make installment to buy a property) 7. Corporate decision like business expansion acquiring land or factories 8. Special programme MM2H, or torism industry programme, many investors also switch to buy agricultural land for food cultivation 9..Wealth creation - Chinese has tendency to accumulate wealth by way of acquiring lands, property or tangible goods to pass it down to the next generation. Chinese has the character to show off how rich they are, this is bad indeed! This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 13 2012, 09:23 AM |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 13 2012, 09:23 AM) I agree with most of your comment. I welcome negative comments too as it maybe right because everyone has a blindspot or blinded by the herd mentality. But I do think that unsubstantiated comments are harmful. Do you believe Orchard Road in Singapore is a high risk area because it has flooded twice? Precisely, it is indeed too hard to understand property market, it is not 1+1=2 equation. It is not you & me can't afford, he & she can't afford, that's why the price will drop. I know the fundamental of Malaysia economy is not improving since 2000, and it is getting worse till now, but would the bad economy lead to property mkt crash? I dare not say so. I learn it fr China experience, I had been observing China property mkt for so long, when the whole world say China property mkt will crash right after Beijing Olympic, and solid statistic data and indicators did show that China mkt cannot sustain any longer after 2008, but the fact is it didn't happen. The correction is delayed 4 years!! (only happen in 2012), for those who waited the mkt crash in 2008, will the they benefit fr the current mkt crash? The answer is obviously not. If purely based on economy indicators to judge a buying decision could be wrong. If I really want to predict the property mkt based on fundamental issue, then I must say, our Malaysia mkt crash shd hv happened by end of 2010! The mkt correction will come but it will be delayed. This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 13 2012, 09:46 AM |
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QUOTE(lynforum @ Apr 15 2012, 01:44 PM) yes, 2-3 yrs ago statistic show that that klcc n mk were b hit hardest in crisis due to high price. but nowadays many outskirts soho are as exp or more expensive, guess they will b top of d list if there is a crisis thus klcc n mk could b a safer bet now. Ni matter how MK is neither CBD nor LCG, it kenot match KLCC, the entire MK is too small, can be easily replaced by another medium size development (100-200 acres). MK won't sustain any longerThis post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 15 2012, 02:15 PM |
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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Apr 15 2012, 02:49 PM) My list of Most Strategic location1. KLCC 2. PJ Town Centre 3. Bangsar / Damansara Heights 4. Taman Desa 5. Seputeh / Mid Valley 6. MK / Hartamas 7. Ampang / Embassy Road 8. Bukit Jalil 9. Damansara Utama / Kota Damansara 10. Sunway |
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QUOTE(DeepValue @ Apr 16 2012, 12:03 AM) you mean to say if a foreigner wants to buy a property now in KLCC, they are paying 40% more because their RM is not the same as local RM? In any case isn't auction price transparent enough and stand as the 'real' value and not the silly asking price i notice of the properties listed in the classified of local newspaper. One more South Africa in BricsThat said there is no one unit which will be exactly the same even if its in the same building. However, I will be very worried if I am a foreigner who bought at 40% more, and now units in the building are auctioned at 30% lower than where i bought it at. I suppose Europeans, Chinese, Middle Easterns, americans and locals alike are waiting for another bull run in property? If the world is powered like a 747, on 4 engine, it would be Japan, US, China (BRICs) and Europe. Anyone seeing any bright spots? BRIC = Brazil, Russia, India and China.. B is not BOLEHLAND Added on April 16, 2012, 12:11 am QUOTE(lucerne @ Apr 15 2012, 11:11 PM) 13 is unlucky number for some ppl especially westerner. 13A floor = 14th floor (Lift / Highrise level)some ppl may think 13A is 14. yes, locals can enjoy up to 40% discount vs foreigner. especialy those buy many units and not good units. this is true case for my klcc condo. i hv the actual transacted price of foreigner vs locals of my condo. No. 13A = No.15 (House no), No11A = No. 13 This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 16 2012, 12:12 AM |
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QUOTE(PradaLee @ Apr 16 2012, 08:34 AM) A bit contradictory. If the bubble already burst, why do we need more curbs? Maybe you meant the bubble has already formed, waiting to burst? How to determine "burst"? it is very subjective too, I had said our mkt has experienced multiple "price correction" since 1997 (except 2010-2011), it just happen at different place, different mkt sector at different time. For one to wait for a real mkt collapse, IMHO it will only happen when it comes to mkt depression like wat happen in US in 1929. Are we heading to that? I dun think so. Even in 2011, I hv totally stop considering highrise as a good investment as I am quite sure the strata supply will reach the peak (over supply) by 2014, current number of strata property in KL is 303K unit, it will reach 750K-900K by 2015, which I think is too much unless we hv :-1) Booming in city population to 2 mil (by 2015) Or 2) Booming in foreign workers (expat)like Singapore 3) Booming in Torism industry (which I think it's still possible but definitely not under the regime of BN hoodlum) The above three are unlikely to happen This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Apr 16 2012, 09:08 AM |
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Apr 16 2012, 07:25 PM) Property price = RM 500k (deposit 10% means RM 450k) Say property price drop 100%Interest = 5% Duration = 40 years Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 2169.88 Say property price drop 20%, Property price = RM 400k (deposit 10% means RM 360k) Interest = 5% Duration = 40 years Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1735.90 Say property price drop 50% Property price = RM 250k (deposit 10% means RM 225k) Interest = 5% Duration = 40 years Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1084.94 Property price = RM 0k (deposit 10% means RM 0k) Interest = 5% Duration = 40 years Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 0.00 |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2012, 12:15 AM) Nobody knows what will happen, what may not happen. Shall we end this chapter fr now... Since this thread started from V1, we had people call for property price to plunge as well, and taking about bubble which is way years back. If look back, price surge more than 30-50% since this thread V1 started, instead of plunging. Don't get me wrong either, I am not saying price won't plunge, it may, it could, just listen and heard both side of camp arguement, while one shouldn't be affected by others comment, but your own judgement, but in the end of the day, no one knows the future. Just don't be over-optimistic that price is forever sky-rocketing non-stop, while also don't be too pessimistic as well, price won't continue plunge until zero one. |
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