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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Feb 2 2012, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Seremban_Guy123 @ Feb 2 2012, 08:40 AM)
I disagree with your statement here. if the profit
just 11%, probably developer will not launch this project.
In my opinion, they should gain at least 30% and above
for each project.
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Yeah u hav a point here. But 30% for a project which need 3-4yrs or at least 1 yr planning + 2 yrs building it, u stil need to break it down n end up 30% / 2yrs@3yrs@4yrs.
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post Feb 2 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(oldman8088 @ Feb 2 2012, 05:24 PM)
if only 11% for 3 years, better put all money in bank for FD. Developer no need taking the risk to doing business.
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They earn 11% on de total GDV which might b taking bridging loan fr bank, or downpayment to kick start a project. They dun put in let say 90mil to build a 100mil project. So its a lucrative margin even with onli 11% per yr. Of cos they r taking a huge risk for a project let say need 1 yr planning to getting approval, 2-3 yrs to build n another 24mths of defect liability. I think even dev making 20% or above per yr, they stil deserve it. Its really not an easy job to do. Of cos their bosses r not doin it la, they pay to prof to carry out de job. Actually any john doe can do it s long s they hav de $$$ and daring enuf to take de risk.

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post Feb 4 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 4 2012, 09:32 AM)
Ya I believe developers hv low nett margin...
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Dev hav record margin due to record launching. Not bcos of high margin per project launced. If u divide total income over total project launched, then its not too high the margin. If they do not plan to launch s many project s last 2 yrs, their share value might dilute a bit due to next financial yr with lower net income. M2C

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post Feb 4 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(kengwei @ Feb 4 2012, 07:18 PM)
lo..22%-60%? your calculation got problem la..how can u directly add up the percentage..

lazy explain..u calculate again lo..sorry..
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Actually its quite complicated. 50% per project is achievable but yearly profit is definitely lower cos u need to divide into how many yr til completion. If one is assuming 60% per project, there might b many others giving up their business but onli do wat dev r doin.

Bear in mind total revenue is based on their collection on progressive payment which is not total gdv collected within the yr they launch a project.
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post Feb 11 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(peet @ Feb 10 2012, 11:30 PM)
Maresia cabinet minister earn RM250 mil.  rclxms.gif

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-ma...-m-sian-scandal
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Its a shameful way for the rakyat of malaysia to tok bad bout wat our ministers hav done to our country. Its disappointed tat v dun feel proud of them / the way they run the country. Anyway just hope they ll b punished gao gao by their god. Kononnya SUCI!!! PEI


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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Feb 11 2012, 01:21 AM)
my previous job requires me fly to HK frequent, i can confirm that a restaurant waiter get +/- HKD12k a month.
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Yup most of them earn more than tat figure. I can confirm tat too cos I hav biz partners there.

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 11 2012, 11:06 AM)
HKD 12K hard to survive in HK lah..you need at least HKD 20K
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HKD 20k can survive onli. Kenot buy house. If buy house, de house would b extremely small to hav for family or in secluded area.
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post Feb 12 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(iamWill @ Feb 12 2012, 08:09 PM)
So many condo will be ready in few years. Who'll be renting or staying anyway?
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Somehow I blif by the time all r ready for vp, investors might need to hold on to it for 6-12mths b4 getting tenants. For flippers maybe need longer time to sell. But after all, most units shall b occupied due to urbanization. IMO, KV stil hav the opportunity to grow in population.

Of cos there r many out there hoping for a crash in prop prices, but it ll definitely won't do any good to our Econ. I would prefer Econ to grow steadily together with prop prices. Yield might b lower but stil worth investing cos keeping $$$ in bank ll onli get u interest but no capital appreciation.

Let's assume nett rental yield after taxes n expenses has onli 2% left, but capital gain over 10 yrs might double up. Of cos tis calculation is onli applicable for fully paid props la.

M2C.
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post Feb 14 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Feb 14 2012, 01:32 PM)
not the group of KFC staff....
Oh I like this. Those idiots need a good lesson in life.
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post Feb 28 2012, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(ayha2009 @ Feb 28 2012, 05:29 PM)
Good one!
Reasonable to ask for property price correction and not crash.
I think all agreed that the price shot up too much.
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I personally think tat prop prices here r stil managable. No doubt salary for fresh grad stil not fantastic, but 1 hav to agree tat if u work hard n smart, u ll b paid handsomely.

Spider is rite tat if prop really crash s some wished it to b, I dun think there r many out there afford any good living s unemployment rate might b very high. Gradually increment over de time shall put lotsa ppl in good position maybe in another 10yrs??? High income nation is no doubt oso very important, but dun hope for it if de current govt is running de country tis way. V need to earn money fr other countries like wat China is doin for de pass 15 yrs. Not rolling our RM within our own ppl.

So govt might need to do sthg.
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post Mar 1 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 1 2012, 07:13 PM)
wow! page 80 already
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http://www.ovginvest.com/usa-property-investors-guide-pwall/

Lotsa B***shi*!!!
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post Mar 9 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Mar 9 2012, 09:27 PM)
haha...to start with KV got 8 Mil homeless residents ar? If plus with home residents, 8Mil...KV can handle 16Mil as at now?
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Haha those jokers r really silly. If they really think v need another 2mil of houses, KV ll be beta managed than hk. They never think b4 giving comments.
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post Mar 12 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(humble_tot @ Mar 12 2012, 07:03 PM)
well regardless of what he or other ppl sayin, am buying n just bot 1 last mth. my view is we can still buy for d right property instead of bbb. what i think is right now may turn out wrong but at least it is a calculated risk that i'll accept d consequence.
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Well said. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 14 2012, 05:40 PM)
this is not a joke, quite real.

some banglas already earning close to 2k a month, maybe can buy 150k homes soon.

while local fresh grads earning 2k yell at najiz to provide 400k homes. tongue.gif
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Its true, my bangla workers getting almost 2k/mth. No tax. Free accomodation by my co. If work late got extra allowance and meal. Fresh grads who r too picky when hunting for job ll end up poorer than a bangla.


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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 14 2012, 05:59 PM)
Opps... am I teaching you?

BTW, my tax return last year touches 6 mil gross
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notworthy.gif Its not easy to earn 6mil a yr as nett income. U r de man le.

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post Mar 15 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(noswear @ Mar 15 2012, 11:56 AM)
he tell you six mil gross...but din tell you whether what currency it is in....ie rupiah or 6 million gold bar?

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I suppose tax return of 6mil is wat he earns in a yr rite?
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post Mar 15 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 15 2012, 01:53 PM)
not surprise to me, if one sold all his prop holding (espeically shops) in one particular year can easily reach 6mil.
nowaday, one shop easily can earn more than 1 mil.  3-5 shops can reach 6mil liao.
own 3-5 shops is common today.

but why sell the shops when can earn more in future? If the location is good.
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But when u sell props, profit gained is suppose to b registered under RPGT, not tax return. I really salute our bro sebtismoney if he really made 6mil profit a yr for himself. If for corporation or big company, no doubt no prob.

Sori my Q sound silly. But really curious bout a single person making 6mil a yr. Is he uncle Lim's son. LKT???

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Mar 15 2012, 03:30 PM)
If you own the Palm oil plantation.. 1 acre=RM100k.. you sold 60 acre can get RM 6 million..
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60 acres for 6mil is selling price. Not taxable income. Furthermore profit fr disposal of CPO land is stil park under RPGT. Pls correct me if m wrong.
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 19 2012, 09:24 PM)
We have another fortune teller here.  rclxms.gif
Property Tsunami in the next 6 month? I heard this 2009, 2010, 2011, now 2012. Get bored already.

Even one get it correct one day (for sure, one day somebody will hit it) when property price drop time, so?.
Can a prime location property that 5 years ago that was 500k and now 850K, drop back to 500k?
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Prop price up or down, u ll b rich if u r well prepared.
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post Mar 20 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Mar 20 2012, 06:37 PM)
as long as we have strong demand, buyer have strong holding power, the price will remain stable, i have keep monitoring some properties in some area since many months ago, thinking to grab some good buy, but until now still can't see any sign of price drop, in fact; the demand slowly increase after cny.
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Boss, can share which loc ga. I'm trying to add some to the portfolio. Tq
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Mar 26 2012, 09:58 AM)
actually, Mont'Kiara property performs better than KLCC as well as Bangsar.
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Yes it is when v tok bout residential. No if referring to commercial. Bangsar commercial is far beta than either mont kiara or hartamas. Golden triangle is the best in bolehland for commercial.

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