Sometimes must wait until 2-3 minutes for a ladder game.

They should combine us with taiwan, china, korea to solve the prob.. Yeah, we do have NA access but the latency sometimes makes it hard to micro, and end up losing ur mutas..

sometimes always meet same player, combine with korea!

probably at ur lvl it will take more time finding opponent of ur wothiness? don't really face this issue with bronze silver, gold or plat atm.

there were times when i played with the same player 3 times in a row! LOL

5 mins searching for 4v4 game.

I almost fell asleep.

best record, 4 times played against the same player.. and every single time he dc so i default win.. LOL

only 4 times? meh...
my newbie fren played the same guy...16 times.& his opponent dc..
so now he's gonna vs silver players,which is bad for him though

meet same ppl few times not big deal......GM player meet others GM(same player) alot alot times in ladder

big deal for me. I only have 1 build in TvP and 1 build in TvT (recently TvZ too as I only use Mech now). But do not meet same player often bcos I will check the replay after every game to watch my mistake in the game earlier b4 proceeding to the next game.

Btw, SEA already is a combination of so many country maybe consider Max d

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Added on November 17, 2011, 9:10 amwtf? since when I got a buffalo in my sig?

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Nov 17 2011, 09:14 AM

well just think that u do BO7 with the player like on tourney, with this u sure no problem meet same player few times a row,

i also only hav single BO in every MU, just that i do it over and over again to polish it

must tarik dota players to play Sc2...

better dun

yes,please dun

later if it did happen, all do like this

such treat only cheese/rush king like ASC will see alot

already got players like this in starcraft....i seen b4.

so lucky~ i only meet BM player that only call u noob when he win

u guys laqddering during weekdays office hours ka? i pernah ponteng kerja skali and laddering direct meet same opponent 3 times in a row. if after office hours at best will only meet same opponent twice in a row. btw this season dunno y i dun even bother to play a macro long game. i rush3 or all in like mad in almost every game TvZ or TvP except for TvT a sit seems to be a siege tank vs siege tank fest currently. its a competition of who soft contain who... i just expect to get out of bronze as soon as possible and at least in silver i aim only to sharpen up my macro long game skils...

My funniest one is this guy who after losing said "so sad.. learn to play" then quit..

you havent seen mine yet, he still keep on babbling about shit after he left. and he check my profile and kacao me when im in game ..."hmmm...? silver ? that explains a lot" ...the best part? I was still in game with other players playing the game.


oh did i said he use his marines to shoot my forge and told me to "build cannons instead".

This post has been edited by FLampard: Nov 18 2011, 02:23 AM

That "abang" must be some champion player la.. XD usually when I lose, I don't blame anyone but myself for not playing better.. Cept for team games.. team games with stupid teammates..

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Added on November 18, 2011, 2:40 amIt's these kind of things which set the human race back 100 years..

This post has been edited by yuvster: Nov 18 2011, 02:40 AM

thats why team game cant reflect ur skill level. in 1v1 the btr player wins.

true, true...

walao like that u say meh~ play team gamer player all pro leh~ all got sick micro and sick mechanic

play 1v1 is for the future, bro. I once heard a saying, "In Korea, if you want to marry a girl you must beat her dad in starcraft 1st" (QN, 2011)

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why I feel SEA populations is dominated by Zerg. By playing full-mech, I forgot how to win against zerg d. Help me in TvZ, Kaiz

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Added on November 18, 2011, 9:56 amfyi, i just copy your sig for my pc spec.
I never knew sc2 graphic is so nice until I play ULTRA with my upgraded pc

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Nov 18 2011, 10:09 AM

ur T is more pro than me~ @@

too bad here is malaysia~ u wan marry a girl~ show her dad ur pocket full of cash

bcos u understand both T n Z, yesterday I saw in ndl chats u also play P with panda right? bcos u r the most qualified person "here" to comment on the other races as u really play 3 of them seriously. Is hazairi here? wanna ask him to TvZ as well. Gotta play more in SEA b4 this server shut down

yup he need TvP practise so i use P prac with he, of coz i play them seriously~ sc2 is serious business y o~ @@ SEA server gonna shutdown??

SEA aint gonna stop with u here, so tonight what time? I really need your comment on my TvZ.

i everynite got on9~ @@

best way to improve TvZ~ practise with MnMKoros~ too bad he is now at sg for amonth

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Nov 18 2011, 10:27 AM

whats ur problem wif mech TvZ? BL timing or roach infestor or mutaling?

generally i find mech tvz need a very fast 3rd CC...if not very hard to transition to late game if you muster up a army 1st only build cc...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C48KY3TC

apart from my late viking, I don't know the problem why I cant just beat zerg using mech. Usually I got adequate vikings to deal with BL. But the transition of BL to Ultra to Zergling to Roaches and back to BL + Ultra are hard to deal with. I saw pro play, ghost is heavy utilize but I just wonder is sc2 mech army so weak? Ghost are hard to micro too, I often misclick the snipe.

Sometime I try very early 3rd, but the problem still as I cannot deal with the transition of different zerg unit.

Now I have come to the point that I wanna give up mech on TvZ d, just silently going back marine + tank. (yup, marine is so OP)

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Nov 18 2011, 12:42 PM

good thing~ u tonite use mech i use zerg u not good mech vs zerg
i not good zerg vs mech we prac~

mech TvZ?
see IM.Happy...
the best mech user in TvZ for KR...
i would say he is a better mech player than MVP jz tat since he cant mech in TvP, he cant go far (see his recent GSL games, beat DRG and terran then lost to 2 protoss T.T)

ps: big Happy fanboy cause he got the awesomez mech

count me in too...if im playing tonight i'll pm you guys. (low chance tho)

anyway ghost is btr than viking due to the BL > Ultra transition...but vk easier to micro of course..

you will see how easy zerg beat mech as map grew larger(same as bio in TvT) but my mech noob until I lose to zerg on XnC.

8.30pm? see ya tonite


I'm a big fans of IMHappy too,only slightly less than slayers... mech-afficiando terran

whats ur name & characther code in SEA?

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Nov 18 2011, 03:20 PM

MECH OP

Zerg OP...

but 3 of our game also never reach the stage i mentioned. The transition between zerg unit. 1st two game I got completely overwhelm by you, 3rd game I pulak 1 push win d. Never reach the stage which I always got problem deal with.

Btw, comment. What I need to improve in the mech TvZ? More harassment? build order? 3rd timing? or position?

You say that, I say Ghost super OP.. Ultralisks? No problem. Brood Lords? Pfft.. Check out that replay of Happy vs Lalush, the game took oh so freaking long and the Ghosts were just killing Ultralisks like they were flies.. Though I've got a few qualms on the way Lalush was playing..

thats the problem of z~ engagement wrong then everything gone bad eventhough ahead in drone despite u burn 3x drone and cannot let terran parking siege tank outside base~ position is important and dun turtle too much like game no1 u turtle n die in the end, 2nd game u spotted my roach using ur hellion at my hatch u should prepared for that attack

3rd game i were trying to do bl but GS were not done in time n u were outside my base~ so GG

p/s if u collect ur tank around 3-4 and 7-8 more hellion and attack me after u burn my drone i would gg coz zerg will drone drone drone unless he go all in

after game no1 vs quest i know why i dun like rr against terran and prefer bane bust~

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Nov 19 2011, 08:36 AM

apparently kaiz n me r trolling each other only la.

do u mean not turtling too much against zerg? I sort of understand this point and I usually will try to gain as much advantage position in TvT but zerg is very good at counter attack. how to solve it? unsiege my tank and move around with sensor tower? This have been 1 of my problem too, once the mech army move out, is hard to come back and usually force a base trade scenario when z not confident to take down my army.

about the attack after drone burning, erm. really good idea. might try that next time

move out by siegeing tank 1 by 1 into zerg base~

Lolz.. I think going damn off topic now XD

hahahaha bcoz we were having some friendly sparring last nite

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Nov 19 2011, 11:53 AM

yesterday night certainly one of the best starcraft night for me. Is terran night yesterday. haha.

I think can ask hazairi to change the title of this thread d, to keep us not to off-topic so much. Ha, change to sparring invitational thread

delete

This post has been edited by johnsonng88: Nov 19 2011, 12:44 PM

for the 3rd game in shattered, its more like ur 1st blue flame run by won you the game (killed 30 drones in early game). if you play mech like ur style (very defensive didnt even try to push until 200/200) you need ur 3rd and 4th CC super early. dont need to fly them over until you have enuf defensive unit, just build in base and fly over when you feel comfortable. my timing is normally, once i set up my 2nd base, i build a new CC. once i fly it to 3rd base, i build 1 more new cc. even if i need to skip a round of production. and use the gas for upgrades. because OC scales btr the earlier you build without dying. and you definitely need a starport way earlier for raven once you see heavy roach ( because it means infestor + burrow too).

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Added on November 19, 2011, 12:50 pmfor this, build a wall of supply depot out of ur natural and all ur new reinforcements park behind the wall. siege them up. you dno how effective is a wall of supply depot until you use it although hp low. wif good reaction, the wall wont die unless a bane bust.


for kaiz bane bust in game 3, i should have sensed it after i saw 20 lings so early. but kinda feel floaty didnt sense it. (((

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Nov 19 2011, 12:50 PM

u got watch my 1st and 2nd game meh vs jeff?

only 3rd, so i comment on that one only lol

I see, then i gotta start my third cc earlier d. But those annoying mutalisk can end the game if I didn't rush to thor as soon as early zerg rush ended. Contradict la. Mech too much thing to consider and must prepare any of those threat 2 production cycle earlier. Yet I like it.a

if he go muta, then you must get 2 thor out. normally can tell already by the hellion run by, if he use mineral heavy stuff to block (spine, chamber, queen, ling) but having 3-4 gas and lair, means muta incoming. but kai played roach heavy. the more roach you see = later muta will out...

bcoz how come u know shattered is our 3rd game lolz?

i play roaches coz can a move lol

cuz jeff said in previous comment

Roaches suck.. The attack speed and attacking range is so retarded that marine can kite them like nobody's business..

research roach speed and spread creep properly

Hehe, I'm just finding an excuse to QQ.. I just need to learn how to use Infestor..

Infestors are so gooooood T_T but there's a small timing window for the terran to punish you when you're teching up to infestors

infestor IMBA

I just watch back the replay of our latest 2 games. I feel is the unit composition u make that cost u the game bcos my banshee harass aint dealed heavy damage also.

Game 1, my army just got 3 Siege tank but thor n hellion heavy. you should go for mass roaches

Game 2, my army mainly siege tank then u shldnt went for roaches d. Siege Tank see roaches as cereal. Make muta n zergling instead if BL is not in time.

well today too much tvt at ladder~ so my brain abit dead when playing with u~ @@ cant think properly

I'm trying to cope with Hellion harass when playing as Zerg.. Any suggestions?

1 hr long TvT? that is fun. my brain feel dead too after that fun time


get 4 roaches and camp that near your entrances

all my tvt 30minutes ++ got 1 game even worst i contain my opponent for 10 minute then i lost when i 5 base he 3 base~ bcoz i marine tank viking he viking tank bc =.= FML wasted my 53 minute for nothing

fuking BC's

I LOVE HELLIONS

u got ravens? that is a wonder unit in TvT. But TvT very harsh, I just play at 1hr 7 minutes long game this morning. It looks certain at some point that I gotta gg but I just defence relentlessly without gving up and at the end, the mineral run out on his side of the map and he have to GG. I'm sure he couldnt play anymore starcraft for today.

actually meeting the same people over and over again in the ladder has a good side, u get to different build against the player because your opponent would expect u to do the same strategy..hence improve your skill when u play in a best of 3 matches or tourney which your up coming opponent might know your strategy by looking how u deal with your previous opponent

holy shit you guys can play such long hour tvts? because of the long draw out macro games which tires me off, most of the time i just do 1 base all ins (different versions ). only when i feel like entertaining myself, i play a mech based macro game lol.

napoleon once said "fighting the same enemy for too long, is like teaching him the art of war"

So, this thread had became TvT discussion.

And I really respect you guys who can fight for 1 hour++, just for single match, or rather a couple of ladder points.

If I were you guys, there is 98% that I will leave the game once the game reached around 30 minutes.

I mech everytime except when those thief stole my gas, then I will 1 base all-in. if they stole 2 gases, I will 2 rax scv all in





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Kaiz, let's proceed "game 6" of our 'mech vs zerg' series. Wanna try a lil trick that I saw in the day9 daily

i think because most (at least for me) people dont really care about ladder points?

case in point: close to/over 1 hour 4v4's. LOL THE BC THOR/ULTRALISK BROODLORD/COLO CARRIERS MASSING

u also can play 1 hour long tvt just that u choose not to

It doesn't need to be TvT. Any matches that exceed 30 minutes, I automatically lose interest to go on. I will stare at the monitor for few seconds, then press Alt+QQ.

f10 n la, easier.

so hardcore..

omg... without thinking about server side problem I bought the NA version because it was on offer at $29.99 TODAY... Is SEA version much better?? @@ SEA version cost SGD$109 SO EXPENSIVE!!!

you're asking about this in this thread? i think the title is self explanatory?

NA server problem is the delay but the player population were way much higher than SEA server good luck on playing NA

btw if u buy SEA u can access to NA also

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Nov 23 2011, 10:51 AM

Yea I guess that is why SEA is expensive. I was waiting for promotional offer and it happened to be for NA version. Oh well.
I think VPN should solve the problem, as it solved mine for WoW ping.
Thanks for the info mate. :-)

Am downloading the 6.99GB installation files now. Whooping 6.99GB. =.=!

This post has been edited by shoduken: Nov 23 2011, 10:54 AM

i hope got promotion on TW server~

ooo.. i searched and found this on the starcraft forums.. they said you can get advantages days after u bought this na version, and ask for transfer to another region for free.. @@

link to the said forum & thread pls

any source on that~ i wanna know can change that NA into Kr/TW ma?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3968202/B...t_II-11_22_2011

search for "thander" he wrote something about teamliquid.net bought US version accidentally and can be changed to EU.

i also saw some said because of migration to another countries it can be changed as well.

i guess i'll try my luck :-)

what ive heard is eu and na are interchangeable for free

my friend got to transfer his SEA account to EU because he is going to UK to study. just talk to the blizzard guys.

ye my friend asked me to do the same when i was in the uk, he told me that i can call the blizzard by skype (free)

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Nov 24 2011, 12:26 AM

SO is it safe to buy that offer or not?, very tempting common common we have till monday, feedbackkk please from starcraft otai's

currently:
Pros:

Berry cheap

Cons:

- NA version
- potential of high lag
- ???

forget about SEA when custom games in NA is soooooo much better

good luck playing on NA~ the delay is killing me~ omg when i saw banelings rollover my marine tank coz of the 2-3 sec delay~ i feel sad despite my army is bigger

i have no problem playing NA...just that they are generally stupid i think...cant brain their logic. best is dun talk in game lol.

I feel delayed too on NA.

Pls be reminded that our submarine cable that link to US always damaged from time to time. I also don't understand the reason behind this. So when the cable is damage, NA server is unplayable. SEA server usually don't have this problem

aiya buy or not to buy,.....game is under rm100 :'(....your feedbacks are great keep em comin

just buy...
later can ask them chg u to SEA...& while changing region,ask em if u go SEA,can still play NA like the rest of us..

or u can just call em on skype..

i cant even land a FF which i effortlessly land usually...
after tat game, i decided nt to play on NA >.<
usually i smurf as random in NA last time T.T

to buy or not to buy, i guess buying then check with the support on changing account

buy sea account and u can still play in NA, and trust me if u play in NA only, u cant join any of ur friends who u meet playing in sea (which mostly all of us do play in sea) and u cant join any tourney in KL (which registration is free eg. fxopen, wcg). most importantly, the lag is killing most of us, unless u have 10mb or 20mb connection but it still doesnt guarantee lag free.

buy the box one here is the best option. U get box+ 2 accounts 1 for NA 1 for SEA

U guys made sense, purchase canceled