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SiewKaiz
post Nov 19 2011, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Nov 19 2011, 10:37 AM)
do u mean not turtling too much against zerg? I sort of understand this point and I usually will try to gain as much advantage position in TvT but zerg is very good at counter attack. how to solve it? unsiege my tank and move around with sensor tower? This have been 1 of my problem too, once the mech army move out, is hard to come back and usually force a base trade scenario when z not confident to take down my army.

about the attack after drone burning, erm. really good idea. might try that next time biggrin.gif
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move out by siegeing tank 1 by 1 into zerg base~ tongue.gif
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post Nov 19 2011, 11:42 AM

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Lolz.. I think going damn off topic now XD
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post Nov 19 2011, 11:53 AM

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hahahaha bcoz we were having some friendly sparring last nite

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post Nov 19 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Nov 19 2011, 11:53 AM)
hahahaha bcoz we were having some friendly sparring last nite
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yesterday night certainly one of the best starcraft night for me. tongue.gif Is terran night yesterday. haha.

I think can ask hazairi to change the title of this thread d, to keep us not to off-topic so much. Ha, change to sparring invitational thread
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post Nov 19 2011, 12:43 PM

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quest_5692
post Nov 19 2011, 12:44 PM

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for the 3rd game in shattered, its more like ur 1st blue flame run by won you the game (killed 30 drones in early game). if you play mech like ur style (very defensive didnt even try to push until 200/200) you need ur 3rd and 4th CC super early. dont need to fly them over until you have enuf defensive unit, just build in base and fly over when you feel comfortable. my timing is normally, once i set up my 2nd base, i build a new CC. once i fly it to 3rd base, i build 1 more new cc. even if i need to skip a round of production. and use the gas for upgrades. because OC scales btr the earlier you build without dying. and you definitely need a starport way earlier for raven once you see heavy roach ( because it means infestor + burrow too).


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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Nov 19 2011, 10:37 AM)
tongue.gif  apparently kaiz n me r trolling each other only la.
do u mean not turtling too much against zerg? I sort of understand this point and I usually will try to gain as much advantage position in TvT but zerg is very good at counter attack. how to solve it? unsiege my tank and move around with sensor tower? This have been 1 of my problem too, once the mech army move out, is hard to come back and usually force a base trade scenario when z not confident to take down my army.

about the attack after drone burning, erm. really good idea. might try that next time biggrin.gif
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for this, build a wall of supply depot out of ur natural and all ur new reinforcements park behind the wall. siege them up. you dno how effective is a wall of supply depot until you use it although hp low. wif good reaction, the wall wont die unless a bane bust.


for kaiz bane bust in game 3, i should have sensed it after i saw 20 lings so early. but kinda feel floaty didnt sense it. sad.gif(((

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post Nov 19 2011, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 19 2011, 12:44 PM)
for the 3rd game in shattered, its more like ur 1st blue flame run by won you the game (killed 30 drones in early game). if you play mech like ur style (very defensive didnt even try to push until 200/200) you need ur 3rd and 4th CC super early. dont need to fly them over until you have enuf defensive unit, just build in base and fly over when you feel comfortable. my timing is normally, once i set up my 2nd base, i build a new CC. once i fly it to 3rd base, i build 1 more new cc. even if i need to skip a round of production. and use the gas for upgrades. because OC scales btr the earlier you build without dying. and you definitely need a starport way earlier for raven once you see heavy roach ( because it means infestor + burrow too).
u got watch my 1st and 2nd game meh vs jeff?
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:10 PM

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only 3rd, so i comment on that one only lol
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post Nov 19 2011, 02:06 PM

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I see, then i gotta start my third cc earlier d. But those annoying mutalisk can end the game if I didn't rush to thor as soon as early zerg rush ended. Contradict la. Mech too much thing to consider and must prepare any of those threat 2 production cycle earlier. Yet I like it.a
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post Nov 19 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Nov 19 2011, 02:06 PM)
I see, then i gotta start my third cc earlier d. But those annoying mutalisk can end the game if I didn't rush to thor as soon as early zerg rush ended. Contradict la. Mech too much thing to consider and must prepare any of those threat 2 production cycle earlier. Yet I like it.a
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if he go muta, then you must get 2 thor out. normally can tell already by the hellion run by, if he use mineral heavy stuff to block (spine, chamber, queen, ling) but having 3-4 gas and lair, means muta incoming. but kai played roach heavy. the more roach you see = later muta will out...
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post Nov 19 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 19 2011, 01:10 PM)
only 3rd, so i comment on that one only lol
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bcoz how come u know shattered is our 3rd game lolz?

i play roaches coz can a move lol
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post Nov 19 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Nov 19 2011, 02:22 PM)
bcoz how come u know shattered is our 3rd game lolz?

i play roaches coz can a move lol
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cuz jeff said in previous comment
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post Nov 20 2011, 12:47 PM

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Roaches suck.. The attack speed and attacking range is so retarded that marine can kite them like nobody's business.. sad.gif
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post Nov 20 2011, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(yuvster @ Nov 20 2011, 12:47 PM)
Roaches suck.. The attack speed and attacking range is so retarded that marine can kite them like nobody's business.. sad.gif
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research roach speed and spread creep properly
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post Nov 20 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 20 2011, 01:41 PM)
research roach speed and spread creep properly
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post Nov 20 2011, 04:13 PM

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Hehe, I'm just finding an excuse to QQ.. I just need to learn how to use Infestor..
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post Nov 20 2011, 04:49 PM

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Infestors are so gooooood T_T but there's a small timing window for the terran to punish you when you're teching up to infestors
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post Nov 20 2011, 07:08 PM

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infestor IMBA
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post Nov 20 2011, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Nov 20 2011, 07:08 PM)
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I just watch back the replay of our latest 2 games. I feel is the unit composition u make that cost u the game bcos my banshee harass aint dealed heavy damage also.

Game 1, my army just got 3 Siege tank but thor n hellion heavy. you should go for mass roaches

Game 2, my army mainly siege tank then u shldnt went for roaches d. Siege Tank see roaches as cereal. Make muta n zergling instead if BL is not in time.
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post Nov 20 2011, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Nov 20 2011, 07:30 PM)
I just watch back the replay of our latest 2 games. I feel is the unit composition u make that cost u the game bcos my banshee harass aint dealed heavy damage also.

Game 1, my army just got 3 Siege tank but thor n hellion heavy. you should go for mass roaches

Game 2, my army mainly siege tank then u shldnt went for roaches d. Siege Tank see roaches as cereal. Make muta n zergling instead if BL is not in time.
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well today too much tvt at ladder~ so my brain abit dead when playing with u~ @@ cant think properly

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