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 Working in Singapore v9, How to save 100k in 3 years to buy HDB?

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post Dec 20 2011, 12:10 PM

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I bought my place 3 months ago, renovations started in Nov, completing in 2 days' time.

I got a good deal for my place, i paid 300k (incl. COV) for a 3 room HDB in Commonwealth, 8 mins walk from MRT.

The downside, small. sad.gif

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post Dec 20 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(etyms @ Dec 20 2011, 12:13 PM)
Ivan, do u have any properties in Msia? I heard we cannot buy HDB in Spore if we hv any prop in Msia rite? I hv 2 properties in Msia... not sure have to sell or not..
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Yes you cant. To purchase a HDB unit, they will get you to sign a declaration that you do not own properties overseas.
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post Dec 20 2011, 12:24 PM

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even if your PR application gets rejected, it's not the end of the world.

my wife's PR got rejected the first time she applied. but then she wrote an appeal letter to ICA and few months later her PR application went through.

you can get the appeal letter format from the ICA website (though I cant seem to find the link now hmm)

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post Dec 20 2011, 12:33 PM

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sorry bro, i have no kids so i cant really share any relevant experience.
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post Dec 20 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Dec 20 2011, 01:01 PM)
U mean u paid S$300K in cash to buy ur home or the home costs S$300K? Anyhow, your area is Commonwealth, so it is a good deal!
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my home costs 300k. if you throw in reno cost, that's another 30k.

QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 20 2011, 01:42 PM)
Dei,

600k condo
60k downpayment
540k loan
BLR - 1.95% (which is what I'm paying for my property in KL) over 30 years = rm2,785 a month.

Besides you're not comparing properly. Your 2-3 room hdb for $1.5k to $1.8k, where is it located? City center? Or outlying areas that need a 25-30minute MRT ride? Greater KL area small 1000sqft condo like Sri Petaling, Seri Kembangan, all these still rm300-400k la.

In any case I use your figures, sgd 4.7k - sgd1.8k (for rental) - sgd 1.5k (for transport and expenses) = potential savings of sgd1.4k = myr3.4k. small increase in savings, big decrease in standard of living (crowded mrt, no more swimming pool, gym and tennis court at the ground floor, no more car to go out on weekends, etc).
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actually, before i purchased my unit i was renting a 3 room HDB in Commonwealth (10mins walk from MRT, 20mins bus to city center) for SGD1600.

and i think your definition of "standard of living" may differ from others. well, at least it differs for me - i wouldnt call having a lack of car during weekends and no facilities at my HDB a "drop of standard of living" given the fact that it's so much safer here, my purchasing power is bigger, and i can still go back to malaysia any time i want.

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post Dec 20 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 20 2011, 02:07 PM)
so u use around 100k cash /cpf ? 20% dp = 60k cov = 20-30k + reno?
commonwealth quite develope, your block more than 15 years ?
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i had to fork out 85k in cash for the initial 20% and COV. And later on fork out another 30k for reno. The 80% is from cpf.

and yes, commonwealth is a mature estate. my block is 40 years old. here's hoping for a end-bloc in 7-10 years' time! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 20 2011, 02:09 PM)
Fair enough - anecdotal evidence and subjective weightage of what is and isn't important will differ among all of us so the argument will go nowhere - we'll all just agree to disagree.

If you're interested in some objective numbers though, do check out UBS' prices & earnings survey: http://www.ubs.com/2/e/medlib/wmr/pdf/Prei...ehne_2011_e.pdf

Including rent, Singapore prices index is 2.42 times higher than KL. isn't one possible conclusion from this is that if you come over on anything other than a 1:1, you will actually be worse off?
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dont get me wrong, i'm just pointing out that different people may have different reasons for making that decision to come over to sg. i hate not having a car during weekends as much as you do laugh.gif

QUOTE(etyms @ Dec 20 2011, 02:38 PM)
By the way where is commonwealth? Woodland?
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commonwealth is on the green line, between buona vista and queenstown. considered to be a sub-zone of queenstown district.
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post Dec 20 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(etyms @ Dec 20 2011, 02:52 PM)
My budget is around SGD400K to buy HDB so which area I should look at?
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I would say it depends on your needs. Where are you working? How many rooms do you need?

I chose Commonwealth because it's near to where both me and my wife work, and it's convenient to get to town. biggrin.gif

The fact that my place is decently priced and has end bloc potential is a bonus tongue.gif

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post Dec 20 2011, 03:32 PM

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20% of valuation price must be paid upfront in cash, with max 15% coming from CPF

COV paid upfront in cash

lawyer fees, stamp duty, etc depends on your property price. there's a formula to it. but not so much lah until 20k (unless you're buying private) sweat.gif

oh, not to mention agent fee (1% of purchase price), valuation fee (SGD150 i think).

then you will have reno cost, furniture cost, moving cost.....rclxub.gif

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post Dec 20 2011, 03:44 PM

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yes hdb is also subjected to end bloc.

they call it selective end bloc redevelopment scheme (SERS)
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:41 PM

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new rules. now it's 20%.
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post Dec 20 2011, 05:52 PM

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to be honest, i dont want to settle down in singapore (ironic, since i've bought a property here).

i'm looking at being here maybe for the next 10 or so years, then i wanna move elsewhere. we'll see...
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post Dec 21 2011, 09:15 AM

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take note that if you've only worked for less than 6 months, there will be a penalty that you will have to pay if you change companies and reapply the work permit.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(alvin227 @ Dec 21 2011, 10:42 AM)
mine to share with us what're the penalty? I understand that the work permit is taking care by the employer hence we don't apply work permit ourselves.
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sorry, my mistake, not a penalty.

if someone works less than 183 days in singapore and then leaves the country, they will have to pay tax at a higher rate to govt.

if you change companies, there's no penalty.
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:34 AM

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Unless you want to sell off your overseas property, dont think you can.

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10321p.nsf/w/...me?OpenDocument

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post Dec 21 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Dec 21 2011, 11:41 AM)
sweat.gif who will admit bro ? just let u know, they not able to check
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you wanna take that risk? sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(etyms @ Dec 21 2011, 11:54 AM)
From the website look like after completing purchasing the HDB we have to sell off our overseas properties within 6 mths. Why after completing purchase but not before purchase? So meaning we still can purchase HDB if we have properties in oveseas but after that we have to sell it off?
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sure seems like it.

btw completion of purchase normally is around 2 months after you sign the OTP

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post Dec 21 2011, 02:12 PM

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cars are not a priority for me now, they are so expensive!

or rather, the COE is so expensive! shakehead.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 03:23 PM

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no worries. dont plan to get a car any time soon. dont see the need for one at the moment.
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:32 AM

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Ok, I think the flaming has gone on long enough. This is the internet, everybody is entitled to their own opinions, and everything should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Please stop.
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post Dec 30 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(heavenhell @ Dec 29 2011, 11:07 PM)
Anyone stay near jurong west? Wat network provider u guys used? Im using singtel but the reception in my room so freking sux. Most of the time oni 2 bar signal only zzz. Only when inside or near jurong point then can receive almost full bar signal.
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are you by any chance living in the lower floors? I've noticed that if you do, the signal reception tends to be weaker compared to those living on the higher floors.

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