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C-Note
post Nov 16 2011, 12:44 AM

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isit safe to remap? won't damage car in the long run? Why 2.0 cant remap?
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 16 2011, 12:44 AM)
isit safe to remap? won't damage car in the long run? Why 2.0 cant remap?
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Can. just that ROM not ready yet
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(lazyboy666 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:43 AM)
ya man...damn potong stimm...

anyway thank kenny. it really worth single drop. can't imagine if we can do proper dyno to it too. stim weeiiii!! stimmm!!
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Upgrade exhaust system and intake filter only do Dyno graph.. Then stim high somemore.

But PLS drive safely even highspeed ya. Must remenber to re-learn stopping power arhhhhh....

I feel hard to catch stopping power now compare before remap. Because dulu rpm only 4k start fly. Now short distance pun boleh fly oh.
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 16 2011, 12:41 AM)
Hehe went test drive just now, found something.

For 2.0, do we have a RPM limiter? Cz when I'm on 6th gear RPM hard to go beyond 4k. Can see it stays there while speed climbs slowly.

SO this re-map will take this off and no speed limiter? Hehehe
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"6th" gear or any top gear in any gearbox are known as the overdrive, its design not to rev hard or high, to save fuel and the engine, which also gives the engine + gearbox breathing room as this is the top limit of the gearbox.... else your engine kaboom and last only 2 F1 race weekends like the F1 cars....

So rev it hard at lower gears, not at the highest overdrive gear....

This post has been edited by Poadster: Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:45 AM)
Can. just that ROM not ready yet
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Waiting patiently!! drool.gif

By this week?? drool.gif drool.gif
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 16 2011, 12:44 AM)
isit safe to remap? won't damage car in the long run? Why 2.0 cant remap?
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Will only damage your right leg.

I feel the power already.
I have to press brake harder now.
ABS season for me again.
Have to relearn "cara memandu berhemah"again.
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Nov 16 2011, 12:46 AM)
"6th" gear or any top gear in any engine are known as the overdrive, its design not to rev hard or high, to save fuel and the engine, which also gives the engine breathing room as this is the top limit of the gearbox.... else your engine kaboom and not last 2 F1 sessions like the F1 cars....

So rev it hard at lower gears, not at the highest overdrive gear....
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So if want to test max speed. Put to 6th gear? or 5th will do?
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 16 2011, 12:46 AM)
Waiting patiently!!  drool.gif

By this week??  drool.gif  drool.gif
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I will get it ASAP. tml will send pm to u guys on payment (early birdy only)


Added on November 16, 2011, 12:48 am
QUOTE(Pip_X @ Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM)
Will only damage your right leg.

I feel the power already.
I have to press brake harder now.
ABS season for me again.
Have to relearn "cara memandu berhemah"again.
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Pip.. how was it? Worthit?

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Fucuking worth it!
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 16 2011, 12:48 AM)
So if want to test max speed. Put to 6th gear? or 5th will do?
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Rev hard till 6000 rpm (or 7000 for the remap) at 5th, then paddle to 6th, and take her roll down hill (if you wanna get it past 205)....
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:51 AM

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someone in this forum told me personally he dun dare to remap cos it will spoil d ecu.bt i think this remap is juz like root ur phone with another cooked up rom.so i think it wont spoil d ecu.bt will spoil ur engine or gb if u dunno hw to control ur car...so i took up d risk to reflash it..am i right kenny???
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Nov 16 2011, 12:51 AM)
someone in this forum told me personally he dun dare to remap cos it will spoil d ecu.bt i think this remap is juz like root ur phone with another cooked up rom.so i think it wont spoil d ecu.bt will spoil ur engine or gb if u dunno hw to control ur car...so i took up d risk to reflash it..am i right kenny???
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Wrong. it wont spoilt..
This is just basic remap to optimise..
I already explain to them just now.
Going extreme yes u might spoilt it.
This ia veru conaervative mapping
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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Nov 16 2011, 12:51 AM)
someone in this forum told me personally he dun dare to remap cos it will spoil d ecu.bt i think this remap is juz like root ur phone with another cooked up rom.so i think it wont spoil d ecu.bt will spoil ur engine or gb if u dunno hw to control ur car...so i took up d risk to reflash it..am i right kenny???
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Yup... its like jailbreak / root the OS....

But there are risk of hurting the engine in the long run (shorten the lifespan) as you are running it at the higher echelon of its performance band..... just like F1 cars can rev to 19,000 RPM but the engine cant last more than 3 race weekends....


Added on November 16, 2011, 12:56 am
QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:52 AM)
Wrong. it wont spoilt..
This is just basic remap to optimise..
I already explain to them just now.
Going extreme yes u might spoilt it.
This ia veru conaervative mapping
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Dude.... mapping is conservative, but the drivers arent....

Example:

Normal drivers can rev to 6200, but will average rev 4000....
Re-map drivers can rev to 7000, and due to improved performance, will now average rev 5000....
Thus lifespan will shorten..... its called wear and tear....

But most will not care about the wear and tear, they want the response.... see the happy and positive replies here.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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I think you remap to make the car a beast.

But you can always drive slowly, no one said having a beast means you must unleash the beast all the time.

In the meantime, those with 1.8 reflash dont tiong 2.0 yah.. Heheh
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:57 AM

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Haha.. poadster means it will cause faster tear n wear due to ur attitude of driving.. haha
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post Nov 16 2011, 12:58 AM

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Also, MIVEC timing kicks in at 2000 RPM, more wear and tear.... unless you shift at below 2000 RPM, but that defeats the purpose of power re-map... no??? brows.gif brows.gif


Added on November 16, 2011, 12:59 am
QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 16 2011, 12:57 AM)
Haha.. poadster means it will cause faster tear n wear due to ur attitude of driving.. haha
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Yup.... not the re-mapping have problem or it will cause ECU damage.... its a fairly common practice for improved performance in cars....

This post has been edited by Poadster: Nov 16 2011, 12:59 AM
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post Nov 16 2011, 01:00 AM

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Kenny, now MIVEC kicks at 2k rpm meh? I think no.
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post Nov 16 2011, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 16 2011, 12:56 AM)
I think you remap to make the car a beast.

But you can always drive slowly, no one said having a beast means you must unleash the beast all the time.

In the meantime, those with 1.8 reflash dont tiong 2.0 yah.. Heheh
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podster wanna tiong police car again after remap his..haha
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Nov 16 2011, 12:54 AM)
Yup... its like jailbreak / root the OS....

But there are risk of hurting the engine in the long run (shorten the lifespan) as you are running it at the higher echelon of its performance band..... just like F1 cars can rev to 19,000 RPM but the engine cant last more than 3 race weekends....


Added on November 16, 2011, 12:56 am
Dude.... mapping is conservative, but the drivers arent....

Example:

Normal drivers can rev to 6200, but will average rev 4000....
Re-map drivers can rev to 7000, and due to improved performance, will now average rev 5000....
Thus lifespan will shorten..... its called wear and tear....

But most will not care about the wear and tear, they want the response.... see the happy and positive replies here....  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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yea...agreed.
so, maintaining the car now is main priority. proper servicing on time, sayang 'her' more, feed 'her' more goodies...
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Nov 16 2011, 12:58 AM)
Also, MIVEC timing kicks in at 2000 RPM, more wear and tear.... unless you shift at below 2000 RPM, but that defeats the purpose of power re-map... no???  brows.gif  brows.gif


Added on November 16, 2011, 12:59 am
Yup.... not the re-mapping have problem or it will cause ECU damage.... its a fairly common practice for improved performance in cars....
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Ori mivec timing is around there.. the tuning smoothen the graph to deliver smoother power without the lag only

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