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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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SilverfoX
post Jun 5 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jun 5 2012, 04:25 PM)
Paper gold can convert to physical gold. So to me, there is no difference. Paper gold save me a lot of trouble for keeping it safely. And it is cheaper too

If we talk about inflation, I dont think gold is a good hedge against inflation. Look at the US$ price over the years :

1975 US$150+
1980 US$600+
1985 US$300+
1990 US$300+
1995 US$300+
2000 US$200+
2005 US$400+
2010 US$1200+
2011 US$1500+ (highest US$1900+)

http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf

It goes up and down. If you bought in the early 80s and sell in the 90s, you actually lose a lot of money ! Only in recent years, gold made a lot of gains

I treat gold as a high risk investment. I think property is more of an investment hedge against inflation. Malaysia property prices steadily goes up with some minor adjustment along the way. It has not come down drastically before (yet ?  biggrin.gif )
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Gold is a lousy investment with unpredictable returns. Its like gambling, you need luck.
I buy physical gold as hedge against crisis. ie when there is a war, collapse of monetary system etc. I only buy 1 oz bullion coins, easy to store, easy to sell. I only buy with money that I can afford to lose i.e around 5% of my total networth.

Paper gold is useless in crisis.

Just my 2 cents.

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post Jun 5 2012, 07:14 PM

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gold is small investment

how many ppl can afford buy property for investment doh.gif
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post Jun 5 2012, 09:01 PM

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Oh no..not again.debate about gold can hedge inflation, paper gold vs physical gold..
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post Jun 5 2012, 09:04 PM

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Unpredictable will be those investments which actually drove people to suicides before.

Gold has the potential to make people loose money, but never bankrupt or near bankrupt. Unless your gold got stolen la.
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post Jun 5 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Jun 5 2012, 07:14 PM)
gold is small investment

how many ppl can afford buy property for investment doh.gif
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Bro, have you heard of REIT arr ?


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post Jun 5 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 5 2012, 05:00 PM)
Gold does not?

Gold was USD 500 in the 80, now USD 1600.
But a cup of tea that cost RM0.30, now RM1.20 
A bowl of mee, that cost RM0.50, now Rm4.00

How to explain this.  whistling.gif


Added on June 5, 2012, 5:03 pmA 500 FD in 80's after 30 plus year compunded, also become around 1600
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You forget the income part


Added on June 5, 2012, 11:05 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 5 2012, 05:09 PM)
Money devalued?

A FD 500 also become 1600 after 30+ years, same gain with gold price!

Based on my example given is to point that gold can be a poor hedge against inflation.
Unless one bought gold in the early 2000, or prior before gold surged from USD300 level, after "hibernating for 20+ years.
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If the price of item has higher inflation rate than the interest rate of FD, then that is why money devalued.

This post has been edited by doraemonkiller: Jun 5 2012, 11:05 PM
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:47 AM

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Now gold myr 165.85 per gram
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:33 AM

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damn.. if reach 160 i straight masuk 20 g liao.. cannot hope for 15x anymore
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:42 AM

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wonderin shd i sell it mmmm
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post Jun 6 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Jun 6 2012, 11:33 AM)
damn.. if reach 160 i straight masuk 20 g liao.. cannot hope for 15x anymore
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jun 5 2012, 11:03 PM)
You forget the income part


Added on June 5, 2012, 11:05 pm

If the price of item has higher inflation rate than the interest rate of FD, then that is why money devalued.
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If a 500 FD, now become 1600, while the price of item has higher inflation, it means devalue, so does gold. mad.gif whistling.gif

Because Gold was 500 in the 80, now become 1600.
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:08 PM

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Hello London!

watch the trend, London's stock market was closed the past 2 days, and back into action now...


Added on June 6, 2012, 4:09 pm1630 easily break...


Added on June 6, 2012, 5:00 pmI kinda hope this guy's comment doesn't comes true that it will leap up to 1682 in a single bound; as I planned to buy a bit more before it goes above 1650 & exit 1750...

"Once again for perspective's sake, gold is hugging up to its 50 dma ($1,623.98). Once it punctures that paper ceiling at $1,630, 'twill run brave and quick for $1,682."
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nodoube
post Jun 6 2012, 07:11 PM

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i will say best shoot $1650 for today....
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post Jun 6 2012, 08:18 PM

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post Jun 6 2012, 08:26 PM

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come on gold....go up to 1650.....

This post has been edited by nodoube: Jun 6 2012, 08:27 PM
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:48 PM

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Gold is up !! Good .. look like buying gold when it was below 1600 was a good move for me... ehehehehehehehehhe $$$$

Never wait and wait for it to go down too long or end up buying it at a high price .. lol !!


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post Jun 6 2012, 10:12 PM

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WintersuN,
Dont wait, buy when it come down to RM165 (if we are lucky to still see RM165). RM160 is just 20g x RM5 = RM100

It will shoot up to RM180 around 15th June. Dont miss the opportunity because of RM100

The upside looks very good this 2 weeks.

Just my opinion.....
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Jun 6 2012, 09:48 PM)
Gold is up !! Good .. look like buying gold when it was below 1600 was a good move for me... ehehehehehehehehhe  $$$$

Never wait and wait for it to go down too long or end up buying it at a high price .. lol !!
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jun 6 2012, 10:12 PM)
WintersuN,
Dont wait, buy when it come down to RM165 (if we are lucky to still see RM165). RM160 is just 20g x RM5 = RM100

It will shoot up to RM180 around 15th June. Dont miss the opportunity because of RM100

The upside looks very good this 2 weeks.

Just my opinion.....
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i think u r right.. tomorrow maybe go open savings in uob then c the gold price tongue.gif

then when got the feeling can enter gold from savings account

wat u think?
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Jun 6 2012, 10:35 PM)
i think u r right.. tomorrow maybe go open savings in uob then c the gold price tongue.gif

then when got the feeling can enter gold from savings account

wat u think?
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If it comes down to 165, you will see me at UOB too tongue.gif

But gold price is going up now as we speak, so I think tomorrow uob price will go up too. Maybe no more 165 this week, but will touch 170 level. Wait for monday next week and see how

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