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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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post Feb 5 2012, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Feb 4 2012, 11:06 PM)
Investing in gold is a long term thing or a short term? Is it the right time to buy in now?  sad.gif
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Unfortunately we are in a secular bull market for gold and silver. If you care to look at the charts, it has been rising steadily.

However, there is volatility at present with wild swings in prices. The only catch is that how wild these swings are, no one can predict with certainty.

The eventual outcome of the currency wars would mean that gold prices will go beyond what it is now, so, in a nutshell, it is the right time to buy, but I do hope that you can catch the downswing of these prices when you enter.

There are premium newsletter subscriptions that have some claim to be able to predict market moves, but then again, these newsletters cannot predict the volatility in between.


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post Feb 5 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 3 2012, 11:46 PM)
Ya, most stable from 1980 to 2004, same price throughout.

Industrial use of gold is minimal, most gold ended with gold bar, jewellery only.
Industrial demand is not the driving demand for gold.
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yup. agreed. mostly the national bank do keep reserve the gold bar for future use.
Y GBP is > MYR etc.....

Gold reservation. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 5 2012, 10:28 PM

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i think Gold is the best bet compare to FD. money value can shrink if the govt of the country has loads of debt and keep printing money out for profiteering the few. if u look back , malaysia ringgit had lost out to singapore, australia and probably other coming up nation like china .u won't be surprise that RM had never been a strong currency and they never will because the government don't have that vision to reduce their debts, maintain, defend etc it's tower.. play too much tower defense game lately. so after 10 to 20 years and still keeping them in FD, your RM 100K today is just about half of it in the future as other things start to escalate like commodities that are scarce. Land is scarce thus getting more expensive.

i let the expert or financial guru to continue from here , i might be wrong .

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post Feb 5 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Feb 5 2012, 10:28 PM)
i think Gold is the best bet compare to FD. money value can shrink if the govt of the country has loads of debt and keep printing money out for profiteering the few. if u look back , malaysia ringgit had lost out to singapore, australia and probably other coming up nation like china .u won't be surprise that RM had never been a strong currency and they never will because the government don't have that vision to reduce their debts, maintain, defend etc it's tower.. play too much tower defense game lately. so after 10 to 20 years and still keeping them in FD, your RM 100K today is just about half  of it in the future as other things start to escalate like commodities that are scarce. Land is scarce thus getting more expensive.

i let the expert or financial guru to continue from here , i might be wrong .
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Agreed. dun hold the piece of paper. it's worthless outside the malacca straits country.
gold is good to defense value shrinkage. unfortunately there is no interest if we do saving it.

recently, properties are increasing the value. my apartment bought 10 yrs ago in 80k, last 3-4 years value is 100k.
these 2 years can go up to 150k or higher.

invest earlier , the better return. biggrin.gif so do for gold and property.

FD is a joke. especially RHB. we need to renew the FD every 3 years, else they wont provide further interest > 3 years if there is no renewal.
one more good thing is.... u cant renew it earlier.
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post Feb 5 2012, 11:06 PM

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i heard that most Vietnamese are keeping dollars and gold under their pillow rather than safekeeping it in the bank because they don't trust the bank system. we might ridicule them but they have a reason for it.. once in awhile they will take these gold or dollar out and smell it..it sort of like achievement or sense of belonging which will promote their motivation to work hard. they said if they keep in the bank, it's like sending a child to orphanage.
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post Feb 6 2012, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(turion64 @ Feb 4 2012, 03:14 PM)
UOB follow which chart? spot gold or comex?
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anyone?
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post Feb 6 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(CoupD'Etat @ Feb 5 2012, 10:41 PM)
Agreed. dun hold the piece of paper. it's worthless outside the malacca straits country.
gold is good to defense value shrinkage. unfortunately there is no interest if we do saving it.

recently, properties are increasing the value. my apartment bought 10 yrs ago in 80k, last 3-4 years value is 100k.
these 2 years can go up to 150k or higher.

invest earlier , the better return. biggrin.gif so do for gold and property. 

FD is a joke. especially RHB. we need to renew the FD every 3 years, else they wont provide further interest > 3 years if there is no renewal.
one more good thing is.... u cant renew it earlier.
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Not only gold, a lot of hard asset can also, properties, silver, copper etc.

FD is not a joke for 24 years compared head to head with gold, it won with miles ahead from 1980~2004.
While if one invested in properties in Japan earlier like 1980's or US during 2006-2007, FD still won miles ahead.

Cash is not as bad as many think (yes keep cash forever is bad), cash let you to pounce and invest asset in bad time, or the asset price at distress time, capture opportunity, which can make your decent profit afterwards.

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post Feb 6 2012, 02:07 PM

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I blur blurly bought pamp swiss at the price of RM1852/10 gram on 18 Jan 12 without any knowledge of gold whats so ever coz a friend has been persuading for a long time. the market price at that time was RM1656.8. So when can i sell it with a bit of profit, say 50 bucks hmm.gif If i am to sell, the price would have to be minus 13% by his company

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post Feb 6 2012, 06:38 PM

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What company?

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post Feb 6 2012, 10:41 PM

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gold drop suddenly over these two days. wondering what is the cause?
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post Feb 6 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(goodiefish @ Feb 6 2012, 02:07 PM)
I blur blurly bought pamp swiss at the price of RM1852/10 gram on 18 Jan 12 without any knowledge of gold whats so ever coz a friend has been persuading for a long time. the market price at that time was RM1656.8. So when can i sell it with a bit of profit, say 50 bucks  hmm.gif If i am to sell, the price would have to be minus 13% by his company
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is this the real gold u r buying or just paper like shares?
by the way ,just saw in paper today that habib jewel is selling some new year dragon design by pamp swiss. anyone knows if buying from habib or UOB got any difference?
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Feb 6 2012, 11:14 PM)
is this the real gold u r buying or just paper like shares?
by the way ,just saw in paper today that habib jewel is selling some new year dragon design by pamp swiss. anyone knows if buying from habib or UOB got any difference?
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It's real gold..
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post Feb 6 2012, 11:39 PM

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why u need to pay his company 13% some more??? commision??

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post Feb 6 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Feb 6 2012, 11:39 PM)
why u need to pay his company 13% some more??? commision??
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Uh... I think so hmm.gif
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post Feb 6 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(goodiefish @ Feb 6 2012, 11:44 PM)
Uh... I think so  hmm.gif
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oh ! oh! u just got yourself in twillight zone... sad.gif
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QUOTE(stockerzzz @ Feb 6 2012, 10:41 PM)
gold drop suddenly over these two days. wondering what is the cause?
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ya was wondering about this too hmm.gif
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post Feb 7 2012, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(goodiefish @ Feb 6 2012, 02:07 PM)
I blur blurly bought pamp swiss at the price of RM1852/10 gram on 18 Jan 12 without any knowledge of gold whats so ever coz a friend has been persuading for a long time. the market price at that time was RM1656.8. So when can i sell it with a bit of profit, say 50 bucks  hmm.gif If i am to sell, the price would have to be minus 13% by his company
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Do you have the physical gold bar in your hands at all ?
Possible another Genneva scheme
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post Feb 7 2012, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 6 2012, 09:36 AM)
Not only gold, a lot of hard asset can also, properties, silver, copper etc.

FD is not a joke for 24 years compared head to head with gold, it won with miles ahead from 1980~2004.
While if one invested in properties in Japan earlier like 1980's or US during 2006-2007, FD still won miles ahead.

Cash is not as bad as many think (yes keep cash forever is bad), cash let you to pounce and invest asset in bad time, or the asset price at distress time, capture opportunity, which can make your decent profit afterwards.
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If you put in FD from 2001 to present, you lose value like aton of brick dropping down.
FD does not beat inflation.
From 2002 to present gold in ringgit terms gained 18% compounded growth
in USD terms gained 24% compounded growth

AND thats NO joke....... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 7 2012, 03:10 AM)
Do you have the physical gold bar in your hands at all ?
Possible another Genneva scheme
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No, the gold bar with me. I don't think he will cheat, he's a good friend. What i want to know is when can i sell it with a profit minus the 15%. I bought when the gold price is at 1656.8. Today i see is roughly 1720. By my rough calculation (don't really know how to calculate actually tongue.gif ) i can have a bit of profit if i sell above 1900?
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QUOTE(goodiefish @ Feb 7 2012, 01:10 PM)
No, the gold bar with me. I don't think he will cheat, he's a good friend.  What i want to know is when can i sell it with a profit minus the 15%.  I bought when the gold price is at 1656.8.  Today i see is roughly 1720.  By my rough calculation (don't really know how to calculate actually tongue.gif ) i can have a bit of profit if i sell above 1900?
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Do you have to sell back to your friend's company only ?

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