Indeed, Apollo will be a huge upgrade compared to 1st gen -> 2nd gen. What more compared to your 2nd gen -> 2nd gen in your case.

But if Nokia Drive is important for you, then you might want to consider it because I don't think Radar can currently sideload devices and ChevronLive tokens have sold out.

Omnia7's size is actually about the same as my old HD2, which was a 4.3" screen. Some people call it inefficient use of space, I just find that you need to have a little bit of space to create a proper design, with proper width to height ratio to make Omnia7 really, really elegant.

Besides, HD2 is probably the 4.3" phone with the least 'useless space'. Even SII, Lumia 900 is bigger.

If I have a choice between Omnia7 and Lumia 800, I'll definitely go for the Lumia though. The hardware build quality is just too irresistible

The recessed buttons + capacitive buttons is kinda annoying though. Cause the buttons are so deep down, and the capacitive buttons are so sensitive, I notice most of the time I have to use my fingernails to press the start button if not my thumb will kena the capacitive buttons and activate Back or Bing Seach.

Maybe it's just me.

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Added on February 11, 2012, 12:52 amProud Windows Phone users

This post has been edited by xcen: Feb 11 2012, 12:52 AM

Get Lumia 800, wait for Apollo at the end of the year/Q1 next year

I think it's all about getting used to it. I used to have a SE X1 with 3.0" screen (WVGA), and I still can read stuff, browse web LOL! Good thing about smaller screen is one-handed usability. I don't contend that bigger screen gives more comfortable viewing experience though.

You'd be surprised how many people just buy a smartphone because it's the 'cool' thing to do. Nowadays phones are like fashion accessories, mesti ikut trend.

I have know countless of people who buy iPhone not for apps, but because everyone has one and they look cool with it. (They barely even know how to operate the phone.) They end up using Facebook, call and SMS only .

I also know a lot of people who buy a BlackBerry for the 'coolness' factor of being a 'business person'. Even though they're just students...

Hmm... The battery problem sounds very serious. Which apps do you have that are running in the background?

EDIT: On second thought, since this is a new phone, you might want to use it for about a week first and then repeat the test to see if there are improvements.

Usually the phone shouldn't drain more than 5% unless there are a lot of incoming messages/push notifications.

This post has been edited by xcen: Feb 11 2012, 04:32 PM

There are apps that continually update in the background. Like WhatsApp, and LiveTiles apps. You can go to Settings -> apps -> Background tasks. There you can see stuff that's updating in the background, you can go to advanced for those apps that you can't turn off the updating manually.

Rendering is actually not really Microsoft's fault. They have been trying very hard to follow web standards, but a lot of web developers only develop their webpages for WebKit, which can be found in iPhone and Android browsers. That's why a lot of mobile/touch optimized sites don't work as good on IE9, which is using the Trident engine.

Hmm... Good example would be touch.facebook.com and m.gsmarena.com

Try that with Windows Phone and iPhone, you will get what I mean.

I've been customizing Windows Mobile for about 2 years and Android for 1 year. Was never satisfied with it. When WP7 came out, kept trying to imitate WP look on Android.

Finally gave up, just went and bought myself an Omnia7 when the price was cheap. Never looked back.

It is the diagnostics app problem. Nokia has already fixed it in the firmware so you get the maximum 1450mAh so don't worry.

Thanks for the share.

I think if you see it in a purely OS perspective, I would say that WP7.5 is leagues better than iOS. WP7.5 has all the functions of iOS and maybe even more. Siri is a gimmick, don't get me started on that. People use that more as a game than for anything really productive.

Social integration is an even more useful feature that WP7.5 did tremendously well.

WP7.5's design has won many praise and awards but I ackowledge that different people have different tastes in design.

When it comes to ecosystem, iOS wins hands down simply because iTune is still better than Zune, and iOS has better and more apps compared to WP7.5. Will this catch up soon enough? We'll see later.

In terms of phone, I cannot deny that iPhone4S is better than Nokia Lumia 800. 4S has a faster processor, front facing camer, better back camera, higher resolution screen, and overall the build quality rivals Lumia 800. (They're both equally good IMO, but iPhone is so common that you don't have the feel of being unique anymore.)

But the hardware advantages of the 4S comes with a price, at RM2.3k, it's about RM600 more expensive than Nokia Lumia 800. You can buy another Galaxy Ace/2nd hand 1st generation WP7 phone with that amount of money already.

IMO the question shouldn't be 'which is the better phone' but 'which phone suits me best?'

Is front facing camera really used at all? I know I don't use them, at all.

Are apps important? I find that WP7.5 provides me with every apps I need EXCEPT for some local apps such as Maybank2U and cinema showtimes etc. But they can be substituted with web alternative, although they are not as nice to use.

Are YOU attracted to the Metro Design?

How important is viewing all social feeds and get timely updates to YOU?

How important is integrated Messenger/Facebook Chat/SMS to YOU?

How much do YOU use Windows Live Services from Skydrive to OneNote? I personally use Windows Live services to the almost maximum. I feel it's much better than anything Google could offer.

So start asking what do YOU want, instead of which is the one phone that is better and rules them all.

Hmm... That's weird. I'm using Google for my contacts too. If I have a contact with 1 mobile number and 1 work number, it will appear no problem to me...

You can text work numbers.

Especially when you consider back during the Windows Mobile days it was the king of contact management.

Being in an area that's between E and 3G will really kill battery life. 1 hour can drain 20% no joke.

Flash will never ever come to Windows Phone.

Flash will soon disappear from mobile devices forever.

Don't you guys think it's SUPER stupid for the SIRIM and whatever else sticker to be stuck on the back of the Lumia 800? It totally spoils the image.

Why iPhone doesn't have to undergo the same 'uglification'?

This post has been edited by xcen: Feb 18 2012, 01:43 PM