The thread was closed for a good reason.

Hey moe, that thread got nuked after a 'on again-off again' phase.
It's great for most of us to have this information discussed, shared and generally educate the general public. But then again not everyone is matured enough digest that info and I think there was a flurry of protest PMs to the mods fearing we would see newbies in the gym with syringes in their arms and blood out of their noses.

It all boils down to maturity, and not everyone is matured enough to make the right decisions.

Wow, chill man. They felt is was better to close it

ultimately, I think this is what we need to thrive for!

Good masculine body, good strength and  could eat what ever we want! 

OK as for diet cycle, I started with my weight training (as I posted previously), in July for 2 months...high protein and high fat, low carb; with shit load of cardio in the morning (1 hr) and weights in the evening. WIthin the months manage to reduce body fat from 22 to around 13%. my daily. calorie intake is around 3000-3500

After that, eat whatever I want, just being cautious on transfat, sugar and salt, and ensure enough protein in each meal.

Number of meal is pretty much unlimited, i basically listen to my body, 3 to 4 days in a week, would wake up like 2am or 4am to eat full meal.

two months plus later my body fat is still the same....everyone has different internal absorption and process, as you train longer with experience (4-5 yrs) you can easily detect your body need and go with that flow... (tweak, diet and exercise to maintain, or to increase or to reduce)

RIght now, I have restarted the cycle, with high carbo and high protein and moderate fat.

I'm just doing this to experiment and at the same time, to jerk the system, lets see, if it increases my body fat.

I think you need to realize that as your bw decreases, you need to adjust calories accordingly too. And trainees make the mistake of overloading protein way too much. For eg. minimum 1g/lb of bodyweight. I do this sometimes if i find that my caloric intake for the day is way too much.

It doesn't hurt to take more protein but not when it comes to the point it become a caloric surplus. Protein can still make one fat if overdone.
Oh! And on a side note, I met Mr Azlisham? I dunno the spelling but former Mr Johor. He's working for someone in my condo.

He said i looked amazing.    High praise coming from someone like him. He's still in great shape.

What barbell workout is this called?

Hi Folks,

anyone having green tea as daily drink? saw DL said something on this..

i mean, if lets say, i have whole big bottle of green tea for one whole working day. At the same time, im taking multivits and glucosamine, and also protein shake, does green tea affect all this?

Some ppl said it will 'wash' everything away. Well, those are the elder people.

Yes. Don't use barbells? You know I haven't touched a barbell for chest and back in almost a year? Lol. My workouts all machines and other stuff.

No such thing. Progression is what matters. Compounds, as long as done whatever way, free weights, machines, whatever, increasing weights = increase in size.

I'm not saying that I encourage solely machines, but you underestimate the millions of dollars of research spent into names such as Hammer and Cybex which allows them to emulate free weights and even surpass them in efficacy.

What's the problem? Bench press I replace with Hammer presses. Military press I replace with Smith's. Squats i replace with hack squats, leg presses, etc, etc.

I know what I'm talking about.

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Added on March 9, 2012, 11:45 am
I am now 28, been lifting since I am 15

just the goal varies

15-20YO lift moderate weight & high rep for martial art application 
20-26YO heavy and serious BB which can see increase of progress
26-27 busy with marriage, business and kids
27-28 back online

Anyway, you nitwits are all lucky. I made a shitload of mistakes in my early training days. moe and i are like...... considered old timers dy. Sad la.

I think i got a wrinkle on my butt. I'm turning 33 next week. Sigh.

How old are u? you are 5Y older than me...

P/S no matter how hard I train, the veins dont seem to explode and pop up.. why??

Who u calling nitwit!

U got wrinkles in your butt cos u ain't doing them free weight squats amirite

But seriously, all of us make mistakes, some more than others, but its from these mistakes that we learn.

But imo all of us could use a little bit of open mindedness. Too many of us are set into their respective views on bb'ing that they refuse to acknowledge new research and methods. Come to my gym, its literally a kampung that time forgot, lol.

I also absolutely hate the newbis who come in and expect results within months. When I tell them I've been working out for two years already they get shocked. These are the same guys who keeps using the same weights day in and day out and complain they don't get results and then resort to the goddamned pills.

LOL...

Mate, do me a favour, get ripped... want to see how you look when ripped with your size and tatooes....

must me hell intimidating 

No it's not. It's fun.

Lol.even my gf recognize u man... gonna have shisha session with u again if im at mj.