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post Oct 24 2011, 07:02 PM, updated 15y ago

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Whether or not fiction, you guys decide. I'm not going to convince you guys. Only wanna tell a sad story. Okay ceritanya gini.

I got a friend who works in a bank in Johor Bahru. He's a bank manager that signs off loads of papers, and one of it is to sign off orders to start tarik kereta.

Yday i go meet up with him and he looks damn pucat. I ask him what's wrong. He say "cari makan susah la bro". Im like wafak u bank manager sit in chair sign sign also susah hidup ah? He said not only work is hard, but he cannot do his work properly, coz got people threaten his life and his wifes life. I ask him... tell me la, maybe i can help you - i got some contacts in Johor polis station can help you out wan.

Then he told me the story. In Johor, recently (maybe a few years) there is a syndicate. This syndicate is formed by a group of mat tarik kereta (or aneh tarik kereta, which ever you're comfortable with). Usually, bank will issue the order, and hire these guys to tarik kereta. These guys suddenly got a brilliant idea - why not bank together and form a union syndicate? It works like this - i get order to tarik kereta. I go to the owner, and I tell the owner, "this car worth RM100,000. I pay you RM30,000 you gimme the car, okay?" So he takes the car, but instead of giving it to the bank, he sells it off to another prospective buyer for RM50,000. So the new owner gets an RM100,000 car for RM50,000 - good deal dey! These cars will have a tiny sticker which identifies it as "Union Car", so other penarik kereta cannot pull wan. Downside is cannot bring the car out of Johor - risky coz the bank might find a non-union penarik kereta to pull it outside of Johor.

The ownership of the car is transferred by paying off someone inside JPJ. They then pay off the police departments and finally pay the union. So what happened to the bank? They're screwed. Basically cannot sue the original owner for the car, because they're bankrupt anyways, and cannot take action against the unions because hard to prove and Johor police all in their pocket.

So this friend of mine, damn kesian. He buta buta go sign sign sign. And one day he got a phone call, "Hello Mr Johnkor, you live at xyz address hor? Your wife work at this xyz place hor?" He also stunned, and asked "whodafuk are you?!" The caller said "you pandai pandai la hor." and slam the phone. But he got no choice. Gotta do his work. So he continued signing.

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After he told me the story, I was speechless. I don't know if its true. I don't know if he was lying to me, but i doubt it. But what I know for sure is, if any place in Malaysia shiet like this can happen, it is in Johor. So I share this with you, and hope you guys open your eyes abit more, on how fucuked up the system is in Mareshia. Do something about this. You just have to pick up a pen and pangkah correctly. If not for my friend, do it for yourself - this may happen to you one day.
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QUOTE(BunsS @ Oct 24 2011, 07:07 PM)
transfer lah, go penang ma, safer.
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i also dunno what to say to him at that point. nasi dah jadi bubur. his wife now cannot even look at him in the face. he came up to KL to report this to a superior. now going back to JB and thinking what to do next.
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:14 PM

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tarik kereta is serius business liao
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:20 PM

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in b4 Guan Eng kata Johor bahaya...
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:27 PM

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johor is the safest place on earth says muhyiddin.. that is not crime, they call it "getting to know you"..
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:29 PM

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6 people rape the wife cos he sign the order to tarik kereta? wtf!!! Hard to even read man.
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:33 PM

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post Oct 24 2011, 07:34 PM

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I have not a single pity to this man. Banks are the biggest crooks and they dont give a damn shit what happens to you,your family and your car.

They just suka suka sign order ask penarik kereta come take your car by force. Whoever encountered this situation before will know what I mean. I experienced this first hand when the gangster penarik kereta pull my uncle out of his car and kick him off the side and shove the tarik kereta letter on his face and straight drove off in his car. The car only had bout RM10,000 left out of RM120,000 loan.

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post Oct 24 2011, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(779364 @ Oct 24 2011, 07:34 PM)
I have not a single pity to this man. Banks are the biggest crooks and they dont give a damn shit what happens to you,your family and your car.

They just suka suka sign order ask penarik kereta come take your car by force. Whoever encountered this situation before will know what I mean. I experienced this first hand when the gangster penarik kereta pull my uncle out of his car and kick him off the side and shove the tarik kereta letter on his face and straight drove off in his car.
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so it looks like LGE was right about johor hmm.gif
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post Oct 24 2011, 08:28 PM

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his wife kena raped?cilaka punya orang..suka2 nak rape perempuan
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post Oct 24 2011, 08:31 PM

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I am currently working in Johor. Heard of this syndicate couple of times from different local friends. It must be true.
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I'm Johorean, i'm really sad to hear what my hometown has changed in the past 20 year... Back then the city was booming with youngsters from various parts of Malaysia, wanting to have a better life, and a more stable income. Like was very harsh, jam for 1 hours @Causeway no matter rain or shine, tired or not... They have to wake up at 6 DAILY just for the puny pay.

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Plus, houses back then were very expensive, small terrace house might costs you 140k. However, the LOAN requires you to pay a 30% D.Payment
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Because of the exploitation of various government departments and banks, due to personal greed and the lack of patriotism, we all are heading towards an extreme direction. No specific direction, no specific intentions...

That fella shouldn't have signed those documents. It can be a loan, or anything that requires astronomical figures. Yes, work is important, you won't be fired for getting late for 5 minutes rite? So, assume you lost your job, is your job more important than your family? Yes, I do kesian that fella but it's his duty to protect his family and himself. He have to bear a part of the responsibility.

The wife is the innocent, the bank is the medium, the source of the issue is the man himself, since he can't pay the loans why can't he do something over it???
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BN ppl will say johor is the bestest place to live
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QUOTE(779364 @ Oct 24 2011, 07:34 PM)
I have not a single pity to this man. Banks are the biggest crooks and they dont give a damn shit what happens to you,your family and your car.

They just suka suka sign order ask penarik kereta come take your car by force. Whoever encountered this situation before will know what I mean. I experienced this first hand when the gangster penarik kereta pull my uncle out of his car and kick him off the side and shove the tarik kereta letter on his face and straight drove off in his car. The car only had bout RM10,000 left out of RM120,000 loan.
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If u don't want to pay, start from the beginning, when about to finish d then fast finish it, from the beginning if, bank Tarik, bank lose cause value of the car instant drop once on the road, and when ending, even owning 1% they still can Tarik, who cares its rm1 or rm10, and those ppl tarik, they make money, and it's legal, your uncle either pay the remaining or don't block the earth spin.

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QUOTE(staind @ Oct 24 2011, 08:31 PM)
I am currently working in Johor. Heard of this syndicate couple of times from different local friends. It must be true.
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Same here.... They are also called the NightOwls, ask around Molek, they'll know...
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QUOTE(RitchieV @ Oct 24 2011, 08:36 PM)
Zzz....want to beat also beat the husband ma......

Seriously these people all f***ing uncivilized, a bit a bit rape people

Hope their daughters next time get rape by banglas
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what if this thing happen to you.. IF... please think properly before commenting here.. kthxbai!
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as emphatic as i am now reading this story,i dont see changing govt will solve this thing altogether in 1 swoop.it just wont go away at all.we commoners/simple rakyat folks have nowhere to go now,nothing to do..
than to obey the higher-ups & the criminals who dictate our lives.

now,i had to consider leaving,just to get away from this debacle... sad.gif
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QUOTE(keretapir @ Oct 24 2011, 08:41 PM)
as emphatic as i am now reading this story,i dont see changing govt will solve this thing altogether in 1 swoop.it just wont go away at all.we commoners/simple rakyat folks have nowhere to go now,nothing to do..
than to obey the higher-ups & the criminals who dictate our lives.

now,i had to consider leaving,just to get away from this debacle... sad.gif
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It will be a start in the right direction. UMNO n MCA don't care. At least we can try.
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basicly, bank themselves are invincible. goverments, in malaysia or anywhere else also bow down to banks. anyway ts, really sorry for your friend. because of responsibility, people screw him up. got some experiences like that also myself, really sadding kalau kena.

anyway, these kinds of syndicates have been around for some time, albeit different names and strategies involved. last time i heard, johor is indeed the capital for 'tarik-kereta' gengsters, but they do connect nationwide tho.


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I cannot brain, if he sign order to tarik kereta then the syndicate got business right, so what did he not do or did wrongly?
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thread forwarded to Bukit Aman
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QUOTE(tailangong @ Oct 24 2011, 10:14 PM)
thread forwarded to Bukit Aman
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BN ppl will say johor is the bestest place to live
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for criminals of course its the best place whistling.gif
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done wat to her? rape? gertak? raba-raba?
if his wife kena rape, he didnt make police report or anything?
just keep quiet and tell u the story?
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guys pray me and family, hopefully wont get any trouble sad.gif
quite scary after hearing those stories.
inb4 im a johor people.

btw ts ur friend malay?
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Oct 24 2011, 09:53 PM)
I cannot brain, if he sign order to tarik kereta then the syndicate got business right, so what did he not do or did wrongly?
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This is the first thought that came to my mind after reading the first post. TS, care to elaborate?
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Oct 24 2011, 09:53 PM)
I cannot brain, if he sign order to tarik kereta then the syndicate got business right, so what did he not do or did wrongly?
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probably should have made it clearer - he signed for a "Union Car" to be pulled again. That's why he kena warning. Basically he attempted to use a non-union puller to take the car.
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baik tutup thread ni. nanti puak2 pelik kata kau hina sultan johor pulak
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every place have good guy and bad guy lah but bad also should have a limit what...why go and..... others wifi... go find pondan lah stupit people
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I believe this story.
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QUOTE(shdin271 @ Oct 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
guys pray me and family, hopefully wont get any trouble sad.gif
quite scary after hearing those stories.
inb4 im a johor people.

btw ts ur friend malay?
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ya. but there's really nothing you can do. the police is bought. according to him, johor politicians can't help you, because the syndicate itself is also connected. i told him go make a police report anyway, but they're so disillusioned with the system and devastated - goes as far to show how systemic the justice system fails johoreans that my friend completely distrusts the system despite his wife being harmed. vmad.gif
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Johor Bahru is not safe place to live. true story.
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Johor is a holy place,... u guys don't spread rumours,... after u all need to apologize to sultan johor..
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Sultan live in a palace full of guard so he feel peaceful at night. Those lowly serf hv to live in fear every night. and the Police in johore...
don't let me start...
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Oct 24 2011, 11:51 PM)
Sultan live in a palace full of guard so he feel peaceful at night. Those lowly serf hv to live in fear every night. and the Police in johore...
don't let me start...
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i don't know how true this is: johor police starting to reject people who come in to request for pulis report becoz they wanna hit their KPI lowering the crime reports. i dunno how true this is, but wouldn't be surprised at all - if this kinda shiet can happen to a friend of mine in johor...i can't think of what cannot happen there.
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singaporean friend say he dont dare to drive to johor, coz got bandits on the road looking for victims
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QUOTE(pwncake @ Oct 24 2011, 11:53 PM)
i don't know how true this is: johor police starting to reject people who come in to request for pulis report becoz they wanna hit their KPI lowering the crime reports. i dunno how true this is,  but wouldn't be surprised at all - if this kinda shiet can happen to a friend of mine in johor...i can't think of what cannot happen there.
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let me put this way. at least once a week there will at least one house will be broken in to by thieves in my area. not mention car hijacked at the road.
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Oct 24 2011, 11:58 PM)
let me put this way. at least once a week there will at least one house will be broken in to by thieves in my area. not mention car hijacked at the road.
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if you repot to pulis? will they take your repot?
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if you repot to pulis? will they take your repot?
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it will takes at least 1 hours for them to come to look at the crime scene. even though the crime is taking place.
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Nro, don't said that if you not live at johor but you got once been mugged for first time or some thing bad happen, you said johor not safe to stay... i live for 29 year at johor mines 6-7 years coz study at penang... shilt will happen but in all palce.. not same place... if like this, i will said all other place will not safe due to shit happen to me..
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johnkor lives in johor

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can he at least try to report police?? its so sad what our police is involved in. from the mamak bribing for puting out tables on the road to human trafficking, prostitution, pirated cds, drug dealers and now thugs, anything can be bribed sad.gif
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When she left work, some guys tarik her into a van. You guys pandai pandai la fikir what happened. After they were done with her (apparently 6 guys), the guys told her why they did what they did, and say "blame your husband, he didn't listen to us".


Rogol?

Then must lapor polis! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Oct 24 2011, 11:51 PM)
Sultan live in a palace full of guard so he feel peaceful at night. Those lowly serf hv to live in fear every night. and the Police in johore...
don't let me start...
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lolol i lived in johor all my life, never even once been robbed or something.. and the police in johor is the best..
LOOOOOOOOOOLL

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My friends mother got mugged once by some motorcyclist and due to the handbag strap, she was dragged on the road for a few blocks of store before the strap finally broke. Luckily she only suffers minor injuries and bruises on the skin
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ask him come down to bukit aman and report lor
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poor thing y becaue of doing his job he,kena,...

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Ini underground activities not only happen at Johor bro, it's everywhere.
And I think most orang atas masyarakat got involve in this.
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It is still stealing car. Same as Kereta Piang case.
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i am from johor and these syndicates are true and exist.

you buy their car and only can drive in johor only.

is there anyway to bring down these syndicate?

even police also stand on their side.
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The Royalty should go down to ground and not just listen to their UMNO friends. Period.
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given one choice, would you open a goldsmith shop in johor or penang?
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QUOTE(pubo @ Oct 25 2011, 09:23 AM)
i am from johor and these syndicates are true and exist.

you buy their car and only can drive in johor only.

is there anyway to bring down these syndicate?

even police also stand on their side.
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I don't think you can go through normal channels for this. Police is supposed to protect us. If in their pocket liao, they won't take action - your recourse under the justice system is stopped at the very initial stage. We need to clean up the police system at the top.
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Waaaaaa...... johor not safe, better move to penang.

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If the story is true, fcuk, your friend need another job ASAP - and seriously go find those uncles at <insert your preferred political party>, no? Thought they always connected somehow?
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reading from this story, i would choose Penang for sure, despite the traffic jam~
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:25 PM

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Bump,

TS should change title to " Bank Manager wife raped", you'll get more attention.
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post Oct 30 2011, 10:31 PM

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