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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V2, Read 1st post to find highest rate.

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post Apr 30 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 29 2012, 04:21 PM)
What if the government goes bankrupt? That is what one of our minister predicts.

Use tax payer's money to bail out a bank because of poor management? Well, good reason to have Bersih V8.8 and the end of BN for sure. Today's educated rakyat is different from last decade.
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County cannot bankrupt one.
Country can default their sovereign bond (which many label it as bankrupt), which resulted bond holder lose money in the process.
The country still there, the country central bank still function and able to print money but at the expense of severe devaluation of the currency.

Yes, tax payers' money shouldn't be used to bail out a bank.
That's why we need strict regulation on bank how they can run, how they can leverage themselves, loan guideline etc.
As banks collapse can have domino effect or systemic effect on the financial system which leave gov no choice but bail out, as if let them fail, it is still public money (bank deposit consist of public money as well) in stake.
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post May 3 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 3 2012, 12:22 PM)
Found out from SCB branch once you have Stepup FD of >rm50k, you can laterĀ  topup any amount (not necessary rm50K) to enjoy the same rates.
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But just have conversation with bank personal financial officer,
the bank officer said other wise.
Each placement at least 50K.
Once placed cannot top up like 10k, 20k, next placement need at least 50k.

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post May 3 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 3 2012, 05:16 PM)
What I meant was once you have put in >rm50k in a stepup FD account, you can then put in an amount <RM50K subsequently and still enjoy the stepup rates before the promo ends on 6May.


Added on May 3, 2012, 5:19 pm
Last week I put in >RM50K into SCB Stepup FD, and today I have just put in a placement of rm40k and still enjoys the stepup rates. Did it at SCB Damansara Utama.
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Look like we have contradict info. doh.gif
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post May 3 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 3 2012, 05:44 PM)
Where did u get the info, DamansaraUtama branch?
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No, just get the info from the northern region office.
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post May 4 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ May 4 2012, 03:46 PM)
Dont u still need to withdraw e.g RM10 for the month? rclxub.gif
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As stated in the T&C, need to perform at least transaction, either ATM cash withdrawal, or online payment.
I don't understand why insist on this. blink.gif
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post May 4 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(stchan @ May 4 2012, 04:39 PM)
Even for those who have joined the min. RM50k Step-Up program, it's good to fork out another 30k for this promo.
According to my calculations, if you just put in the minimum required amount (30k), the return is equivalent to an interest rate of about 5.65% (RM300 cash back plus the 1.5% SuperSalary interest).
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The rate is better than the step up itself.

Those open step up program, must have an CASA, so should able to get both.
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post May 5 2012, 11:35 AM

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The ADB and cash back is really complicated and confusing sometimes.

Why not make it more simpler? doh.gif

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post May 8 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(BlackPen @ May 8 2012, 04:54 PM)
UOB Bank Latest Fixed Deposit Promotion Rates for May 2012 - Minimum RM10K.

1 Month - 3.2%
3 Months Step Up - 1st and 2nd Month 3.2% and 3rd Month 4.2%. Average 3.53%
6 Month -3.5% (same as previous month's offer)

OCBC Bank Malaysia Promotion until 30th June 2012. Minimum Fresh Fund RM10K

3 Months 3.5%
6 Months 3.65%

u mean this? so u recommend this FD? quite high..OUB or OCBC? this both FD until 6 months only?how about i put 12month?
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There is no promotion on 12 months, so if you want to put 12 month, follow the board rate, 3.1% or 3.15%.
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post May 24 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ May 24 2012, 12:55 AM)
Anyone know whether the SCB super salary a/c is considered as current or saving a/c? I'm confused when using their debit card at the ATM.
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Super Salary is a current a/c.
You can have a cheque book with the a/c.

Debit card/ATM card /= saving ac.
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post Jun 7 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(ascend @ Jun 7 2012, 10:08 AM)
'FD rate' in a casa account from PBE. CASA rate varies (but at around 0.2%pa depending on balance tiers)

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Example 1:
Customer A opens a new 50 PLUS Savings Account and has maintained an ADB
of RM40,000 in the account throughout the 180 days period.
The bonus interest earned by Customer A during the 180 days period is as
follows:-
= RM40,000 x 3.33% x 90/366
= RM327.54


I find it is about strange for the calculation.
The T&C required maintain the balance throughout 180 days, but interest is counted based on 90 days?
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3.1 A bonus interest rate of 3.33% p.a. on top of the prevailing interest rates of the
respective Eligible Accounts calculated for 90 days on the incremental average
daily balance (ADB*) in the Eligible Account.

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post Jun 22 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jun 21 2012, 10:39 PM)
noted, thanks for the confirmation.

yah it was principal plus interest in my own name when I withdrew my FDs and deposited them into OCBC 6 months 3.65% last week. I must go to UOB and find out how come they charge me RM2.15  vmad.gif somemore 2 cheques so rugi RM4!
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Based on last time I knew, customer is entitled for 1 cheque free (no Rm2.00 but still need to charge 0.15). 2nd one need to charge.

Now, I don't know.
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post Jul 17 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jul 17 2012, 12:36 PM)
Agree with u. Just to point out the possibility that... at least with 1mil, 4%-4.5% pa is negotiable.
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Nowadays, bank can impose Tier 2 deposit rate if deposit is more than 1 million, which the rate can be lower than board rate one.

It is long gone that more deposit can negotiate better rate like old day.
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post Jul 17 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(joycelyn33 @ Jul 17 2012, 03:18 PM)
if i wan to wirthdraw money from my fixed deposit, is that a must to go back to the home branch to withdraw? do they need fingerprint ? or just ic, i thought ask my sister to withdraw the money as i busy working on weekend, mine is public bank
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Definitely cannot.

You cannot handle over your IC to your sister to withdraw your FD. It is a "big wrong" in the first place.

Yes, now need both IC and fingerprint and personally go there. Bank will not entertain third party to withdraw.

Whether need to go to home branch or not, it depends on respectively bank policy, differ with bank to bank.
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post Jul 17 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Jul 17 2012, 05:52 PM)
Thats what happens to me to me too something lke #svc giro cr#
dont know what it is. My missus once ask the bank also they blur..blur or lazy to check. vmad.gif
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Nowadays e-dividend adopted by listed company using Giro to bank in the dividend paid.

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post Jul 28 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Jul 28 2012, 03:30 PM)

Best 12-Month

OCBC - 3.8%
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Can't find the info for this one, mind please post the links or details?
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post Jul 29 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Jul 29 2012, 11:15 AM)
There has been a lot of hoo haas on PIDM insured funds lately with quite a number of forumers adamant on depositing in banks that have PIDM. The days of unregulated/ loose rules in the financial sector has long gone. The days where cooperative house n finance companies offering huge interest rates are nomore to be found. Bank Negara under present governor has been very strict on enforcing banking regulation.

That brings to the question, who has ever been affected by bank runs n made a loss of it.

For me I have deposited before in previously known Maybank Finance at a rate of 9.xx% pa and principal plus interest was honoured to the letter. My better half was not so fortunate having deposited in small cooperative and has to settle for reduced returns(forgotten the details). All the while bank deposits has been guranteed by the government upto if not mistaken RM60k. PIDM recently guranteed it to RM250k. In my opinion, Banks n goverment link Finance/Cooperative will be fully backed up by the government of the day. I do not see reason of hoo haas of PIDM.

Quite a number of forumers quote the infamous runs of finance/cooperatives, but how many in this forum has actually experienced it. Just for info those days, finance inst are not government guranteed... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jul 29 2012, 01:27 PM)
Yah lah, I had to keep reloading the page to view my blog and related info  tongue.gif And I want to thank you for visiting it smile.gif

As for non PIDM, this was discussed previously and highlighted by cherroy that the government would not let them "wind up/collapse" without refunding back the money to the depositors (can't remember the exact words) and that's a fact as you pointed out once again above. For me, Bank Rakyat branches location not that "suitable" (must be something to do with politicians having a hand in it instead of proper studies carried out to determine convenience to customers and demographics of the area). Furthermore, they don't offer credit card that benefits me, haha.  And the joke is on those anti BN but depositing their money in a bank under the control of BN politicians (and thus in a way supporting them) to earn extra interest  tongue.gif

Having said above, many in this forum also got no confidence with the government with regards to their savings with EPF  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gsc @ Jul 29 2012, 02:29 PM)
it may be true that government may back it up in case the nonn-PIDM bank is running into financial problem. But the key question will be, will the government return 1:1 on money deposited with interest (which I doubt) ?

on the other hand the so called PIDM backed up bank limit to rm250k only, for those premier customer like Ocbc and other banks. Your money is not protected after the limit.

in short, individual has to take a calculated risk on his own as this forum is only sharing info.
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First of all, I want to clarify one thing, so that many forumers won't be misunderstood.

When I said, normally gov won't let bank collapse with depositors money, and gov or central banks generally (a lot of time) took over or bailout once bank or finance institution facing problem, it is just a norm practice adopted by most country gov and happened quite a lot of time.
Why? because confidence and trust is the pillar how financial system, banks work.
So most gov generally do not want to let or see any banks or finance institution collapse together with depositors money. Because it can affect confidence issue on depositors and financial confidence within the country.

But there is no black and white, or any law said gov will or must rescue/bailout financial institution when they are in trouble.
Remember gov itself can run into trouble as well whereby gov may run out of option when financial situation is in distress, like unable to fund the bailout due to whatever reason, although chance of happen indeed quite low and seldom happening,
or gov reluctant to bail out due to whatever reason.

Typical eg. Iceland let its bank default during or around global financial crisis 2008.

That's why and where the need of PIDM to guarantee depositors's money.



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post Jul 30 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Jul 29 2012, 09:47 PM)
So far searching for bank runs, Iceland as mentioned by bro cherroy, guaranteed depositors to the full contrary to mentioned. Bro Cherroy, mind pasting the link so can read further to enhanced my understanding..of bank runs..
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Then you need to understand how bank operate.

For simple example.
A bank has 1 billion of own capital, so it can lend out 970 million (if it is a 3% SRR) as loan,
but on the other hand, bank can take in deposit of 10 billion and lend out 9.7 billion as well.

So if more than 10% of the depositors withdraw deposit suddenly (a bank run), means bank need to come out with 1 billion cash to pay back the depositor, 1 billion means entire bank own capital.
What if 20% of depositors suddenly want to withdraw in full?

Those loan made cannot be recalled instantly. Housing loan take decade to be pay off once lend out. Same with car loan, and many other loan.
Worst still if those housing loan are underwatered, aka real estate value has plunged severely after the loan being made.
For eg. bank lend out 500k housing loan for a 500k property previously, now the property only worth 300k in the market.

So bank needs to access to the interbank market to borrow money from other bank to fund it, or central bank. If both channel is not accessible due to whatever reason (like global financial crisis time, whereby inter-bank lending became stand-still due to fear counter-party bank collapse/default), then bank may have hard time to survive.

That's why regulators in most countries nowadays want banks to have strong tier 1 capital as required by Basel accord, aka means leverage level cannot be too high in the future.
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QUOTE(gotham11 @ Jul 30 2012, 10:34 PM)
the SCB 4.5% FD offer appeared to be a bait, only part of it entitled for this FD rate, the rest need to be invested in unit trust or somekind of saving plan. I found this guy from SCB branch is very irresponsible. When he called me, kept on saying they encourage saver to change their step up saving plan (FD for 6 months) to this, I had also asked him, this is FD, he said yes... wasted my time and effort to rush to the branch. Very irresponsible..... I left in less than 5 minutes...
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You can always complain to the bank or even BNM, if bank personnel gives wrong info.

If any bank give better FD rate than normal without bundled buying product or other investment, I bet, you can find it here as well (in this topic), thanks to forumers around that always keep on thread updating. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Jul 31 2012, 12:56 AM)
Oic, CASA linked.

Personally I do not like CASA linked (which CASA amount need to be earmarked), as it complicated personal cash management issue.
Need to remember the amount being earmarked. Quite troublesome, if account got plenty of activity.

Why can't banks just make it straight forwards?

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