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I saw your post on Good Old Games forum. Good to see there are fellow GoGers here.

fcuk nostalgia, i look forward to the latest and prettiest

Maybe we usually see those games with rose-tinted glasses along with nostalgia bias?

There are old games that aren't really made in any form nowadays though. Like say...X-Com or Syndicate.

Cause they don't make them like they used to.

No, old games arent any superior than new games. There are always good and bad games in each generation.

I rather have my destructive environment and advanced physics than pixelated graphics and turn based gameplay.

i re-play all classic games that i like a long time ago....hmm....i can say i rather not to replay it again, but nostalgic feeling is still there....

This post has been edited by mrhulk: Oct 14 2011, 09:41 PM

To say that old games are superior is a bit too much. But i understand where the author came from, most of my games in my library right now consist of old games.
I'm just tired of playing new games since 5 - 6 years ago, except for few titles like sports game, indies or games from my favourite franchise because most of them looks and feels same. Maybe it is because of nostalgia, but that's not all. I feel old game have special charm because back then they tried to be innovative and creative and more importantly fun. Think about golden age of adventure game, straight-forward fps shooter and arcade style racing game. They not tried too much to be realistic and fancy, sometime too much realism just kill the fun for me.

But you got to have guts to tolerate dated graphics, poor navigation or control scheme and cheesy sound effect, sometime lack of content offered by modern standard. Thankfully GoG offer this service and i just discovered it earlier this year. Before this it is almost impossible to play my favourite racing game in 1997; such as Planet of Death, Megarace on modern machine, but now i can relive my nostalgia with little amount of money. And btw, i'm not some old guy, i'm still in my 20's

ALso, we only remember the GOOD games of yesteryear.

There was a lot of crap out there then, as there are a lot of crap out now too

You mean like health regeneration and lack of recoil?

Might as well press a button to beat the game

Nostalgia helps alot in deciding if an old game is good or bad, you wont admit it but it's true. Oh yes.

Get old games from Good Old Games

Pretty much this. Give kids today another 2 decades and they will say Modern Warfare 3 is the classic and superior than 2020 video games, and said that the developers weren't used to be that "innovative" and all the stuff we said right now.

It is more of a cycle. As much as I enjoy the old game, things always and go both ways, and some features will be sacificed to make way for new.

And do you know that...

Apple is planning to release a revolutionary Game Console

Too many new games + old games = no time.

Nothing's wrong with health regeneration and lack of recoil. Not every game has to be military shooter.

Health Regeneration isnt all bad, especially these few years, as they are trying to shake it up a bit, like how Transformers War for Cybertron done to it, where the health bars have different levels or how Battlefield have been doing to it with delayed regeneration so that you cant just duck and hope you heal in seconds to get back to the fight.

Recoil, i dont see any problems if games like Unreal Tournament's gun doesnt have any recoil.

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Added on October 15, 2011, 10:45 am+1

Each cycle has the best and the worse games. Some features are retained while some are lost. At the same time, some are completely changed.

Some of my favourite games are newer games from past few years, while, there are still games from the early 2000 or even 90s that i still miss them till now. Here hoping for a remake for Freelancer/Nexus.

As long as its fun, i dont really care.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 15 2011, 10:51 AM

sos or curry pls

health regeneration, unlimited ammo is the biggest wrong thing to begin with in FPS, its like now every FPS have it.

All you need now is to hide long enough to regenerate the health back even in BF3. Oh I got sniped, I got hit.... Hide longer, then reappear ur foe change his target. SNIPE TIME in full HP!. Why need a medic? No need. Back then in BF1942 u actually need to FIND a medic to heal u. Now? Medic is only useful for rapid healing. FAIL.

You dont even need to "think about" the long term risk involves when u go head on in a fight. Back then I have to keep saving my health and find the most efficient way to kill my enemy without me getting hurt too much due to limited health kit, i have to conserve my ammo in a very efficient way so that I dont run out of ammo in a mid fight or somewhere in a game. Now? just spray!

Now? FPS = Fight, just spray, got hit, hide, regen, repeat. lol?

As for recoil I still think games like BF3 sniper have recoil that is still to low, especially with a Bipod and the stupid Hold breath function. A lot things being dumb down for casual players.

This post has been edited by billytong: Oct 15 2011, 05:11 PM

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Steam-Xbox-Liv...news-12865.html

iStation? ibox? iWii? iCast?

If you are talking about CoD's system, then, thats cancer, as it barely have any penalty if you get injured. It heals back to full HP very quickly.

Battlefield 3's one is pretty decent, as the delay of the regeneration is much longer than even BC2 and even with med kits, its fairly slow, comparing to other games. It definitely not a fail to me, in this case, as its incredibly annoying to run around with 15% left in older games without any regeneration at all. Battlefield 3 actually did pretty well in regenerative health.

I play Medic half the time, and i never have issue of people ignoring the med kits i put out.

You die pretty much instantly if you just charge into the battle. That alone balance up with the regenerative system. Not to forget that any shot from an anti tank, tanks or chopters, you are dead.

Bipod is meant to reduce recoil, and you have to compensate that 2 seconds setup time and the limited arc of firing without setting it up again. It is meant to be like that.

Battlefield 3 do not have unlimited ammo, and i did run out of ammo a few times in the Beta.

Some people seriously need to adapt to newer games, and not get stuck in late 90s. A lot of newer games like Just Cause 2, Transformers, Battlefield 3, have been using staged health regeneration, where i find it to be a sweet spot between the traditional health packs and regenerative. The traditional health system is not perfect to begin with, as terrible level design would make the game annoyingly difficult or you dont know where to find the med kits.

That'd just be a broad generalisation. Although that apply to most of AAA fps a lot of niche fps games still retain some challenge and innovation in them. You just have to look deep and far out enough.

Sad thing is all the remakes are going to be fps now and their original genre is not marketable enough according to their publishers. Most laughable thing is the one that 2K said about turn-based genre is dead. This come from the publisher of the most profitable turn-based game.

Good thing that some publishers and developers tried to do proper remake. Paradox to make their own Syndicate which called Cartel and Goldhawk making their own version of XCom called Xenonauts.

I love old games but I do totally agree we remember only the good or even the very best of them. There was lots of craps too.

Today I am still in the same situation, some good/great games, lots of craps.

I do agree though that the games coming out changed (like corridor fps like COD which I am not fond of) or that some genre that I loved are gone (turn by turn).

But well, I still have a backlog long enough to keep me busy until hell freeze over (including both new and old games), so hey, can't be THAT bad right?!

The thing is if u want realism despite with Bipod ur scope will still shake a bit(just lesser) because ur hands are not robot hands, for what I played in BF3, ur sniper scope is as steady as it is after u deploy Bipod. Cool eh? Besides when u move ur sniper gun quickly following a fast moving target, the shake should go more violent, and it should takes longer to steady back the scope. I fail to see how u can sniper a fast target in ultra long distance (consistency) by just standing + keeping ur scope steady one target after another. BF is about physics and they fail in this department.

BF3 is regeneration delayed but it is still flawed. One do not really need Medic at all, if u knew how to take cover and time ur HP u dont really need medic at all. I am fine with the med kits regeneration but I am not fine with the speed of self regeneration despite is being delayed. I dont know how many shot I have taken when I was a sniper, it is easily a lot more than what I can take if it is without the regeneration I should probably die already, now with that I can snipe all day taking out my enemy without even worrying my health issue because I can just hide behind the rocks long enough to get my HP back to 100%. The only thing I need to worry about is to avoid a headshot or a backdoor knifing which is easy to counter by just checking ur back periodically

another thing I want to mention about is the spot function (Press Q). It is flawed as well, how can u keep track of ur enemy movement/location when all of u & all of ur teammates loose sight of him and there is no air unit to keep up for us? it seems that as long my crosshair is on the red triangle I will never loose him.

This post has been edited by billytong: Oct 15 2011, 09:42 PM

Somehow this has become a CoD versus BF thread

The medic class is just dumb in BC2. You can ***** out somewhere, drop a kit beside people who do the actual fighting and get mad rewards for that. That's not meaningful gameplay.

BF3 is not a military simulation with 100% accurate physics. Besides, there is no 100% realistic game out there,not even those so-called sim are not 100% accurate, as it is impossible to model what actually happen in real life into a game as there are so many factors to consider. If a software manage to model everything correct, then, that not a game. Thats a computer analysis software.

If you want realistic games, go play ARMA then. I am not a soldier, so i have no comment on how steady can they actually hold the weapons. As far as i know, i remember seeing real life soldiers complaining that the weapon sway in BF3 is excessive on Battlelog, as they can hold the weapon pretty steady in real life combat. Not sure how valid are those comments, but do i care? No, as long as the game is fun, i dont mind little flaws in the game.

I have been playing more than 15 hours in the Beta, i find that, medic isnt useless at all. I still need a medic when i am hunting for tanks in Caspian Borders. You are just being picky with health system because you sound like you just hide behind the bush all day and your blatant hate on all regenerative health systems. I find the bullet damage is so high to the point that the regenerative system doesnt really help in some cases, if only you are fighting on the front line. Probably because you like to hide behind the bush, while i prefer to stay upfront. I dont play as snipers, as its just pointless to camp there for the whole match not contributing to the team. I want to contribute to the team, not sitting there and waste other people's effort in trying to win the game.

If you want to nitpick all day, i have a lot of complains on the destruction system, on how unrealistic is it because concrete does not behave like how the game portray. Do i care about that? No, because it's just a game and its not suppose to be a carbon copy of real life.

The spot function isnt working properly in the Beta. The full version should be more on line of sight than the old system.

I dont know whats your hate on today's games like BF3, maybe you should just go back to 1942 and forget about all the modern games. No doubt BF3 is a overhyped game, but at the end, its still a pretty good sequel to BF2 for me despite there are quite a lot of flaws.

I want to move on and see how the games i like are evolving, not play the same shit that i have played to death 10 years ago. Sure there are failures like Sup Com 2 to Sup Com 1, but there also success like Company of Heroes from Dawn of War.

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Added on October 16, 2011, 12:20 amIts good to rack up the points, though.

Seriously, sometimes, it is important to just dump the med kit and let them heal in a fight. It actually able to keep them up longer.

I rather they give more points to encourage people to dump health kits more often than the other way round. The points you can get some times is just ridiculous.

Thank gawd they sort of fix it in BF3, as the points you get isnt that much.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 16 2011, 12:25 AM

i wish they make sequels to games like simcity and zoo tycoon.

i like those games.

Likewise, fellow old timer. 8)

We don't have to be stuck in the past to accept that the conditions back then encouraged more creative thinking and experimentation in game design. It was a pioneering industry. That didn't stop me from preordering Battlefield 3 last month, though. Good games will be good games!

This post has been edited by jRev: Oct 16 2011, 10:08 AM

There's definitely a lot of creative thinking and experimentation on game design in recent years too, simply because of the ability to develop cheap games with better technology ala indie games distributed over PC, PSN, XBL

If you want realism. No respawns, you degen health after getting shot without a medic because you're bleeding to death, medics cannot heal you back to 100%, wind speed/direction and temperature while sniping, etc.

BF3 is not a military sim game, so it doesn't have to be 100% accurate, its just a normal fun FPS.

Also, it sounds like you're just camping in some rocks sniping people.... this is a really ineffective playstyle compared to actually completing objectives for the team. You would notice the need for medpacks when you're under suppressive fire or constantly taking damage. If you stop to regen health you're letting the enemy advance by a significant amount from their spawnpoint, if you don't you run the risk of getting killed quickly.

probably long ago u dont have lotsa things to do and with lack of source and advance technology then even mario bros u'll find it interesting..

nowadays too many game genre with demanding graphic with variety of feature offered in each game like the free roaming/trickery of quest/bugs/glitch etc then u'll find it difficult and hardly to enjoy

Later the fruit will sue sony, Nintendo or Microsoft for copying their design...

medic arent useless, but when u can heal quickly without it is wrong.
When u are playing a defending team u will know how a few good sniper are actually helping the team as the whole, press Q spot the whole field, snipe whoever u can, it seems to have this conclusion that recon class are not contributors. Besides I dont just play sniper alone, even in non recon class, u could just take cover and restore 100% in a short a amount if time without a medic.

and I do agree with you that the BF3 point system are not so much in encouraging team playing. It seems that points for capturing flag in conquest, blowing up/difuse Mcom, avenger, savior are far less than killing a couple of enemy yourself. And winning a game(for rush) only get u extra 500.

Yes u need med kit under suppressive fire or constantly taking damage, it still doesnt take out the fact that one can just hide for X secs for cover and fully restored the Hp in a short amount of time, even u plays as non recon in the front line u can always take cover and restore ur HP and get back in fight @ 100% without a medic.

I prefer BF3s' self-regen rate should reduce despite the delay. Have u heard people shouting for medic more than ammo? I have heard the ammo ones, but not medic in my personal gaming experience in Beta. In BF3, if u dont have ammo u have to find the support, there is no other way around. Why cant health system do the same?

This post has been edited by billytong: Oct 16 2011, 05:27 PM

I wonder why modern fps didn't use reload sytem like operation flashpoint? Isn't real gun use magazine/clip not individual bullet count (i don't know the urban slang)like most fps today? So this can prevent you from wasting too much bullets because you will run out of ammo.

I would just recommend you to play BF1942 or BF2 then since you hate so many things about BF3. I play medic up front, and i rarely have enough time or even bothered to camp in the bush to regen my health. Suppression fire alone have discourage me to stay in the same spot and encourage me to flank more because it blurs my screen so much. Are you really flanking or you are just sitting in the bush with your long sniper rifle?

Recon class is rubbish, if you are camping at somewhere. BF3 is not CoD, where siting there will win you the game. I have no doubt on the way you post have enforced that you are just a recon who loves to camp.

Besides, the points system has changed in the final game. Capturing one flag in Conquest gives you 250 points, not 100 points in beta. Is that enough to encourage team play?

The delay is already slow enough and i'll take it any day than the traditional system. Half a mag is more than enough to kill you, let alone with those tank shells or chopter rockets, having traditional health system or regenerative system doesnt really make any different because you die almost instantly, unless, again, you are a camper that hide behind the rock.

The reason why support isnt dropping much ammo because they themselves never really run out of ammo and they do now know that people have run out of ammo. I play a fair bit of support and i always forget to drop ammo because i have more than 200 rounds, at least at the beginning.

The button, Q to call for ammo and health is not working. It should be in the final game.

I am guessing you were worrying more on the regenerative health than all the game breaking bugs and missing features in the Beta.

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Added on October 16, 2011, 6:18 pmThats something i want too.

Does Red Orchestra 2 have this feature? I remember Killing Floor has this.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 16 2011, 06:18 PM

Or just come play Arma II with some of us. Maybe you're just getting too old for fast-reflexes-twitchy games.

Yes, in RO2 we can even check our mag whether it's full, half-full,close to empty or empty. The remaining bullets are still there in the mag even after we reload for new mag. It means we keep the mags that are not empty and only dispose the empty ones. So if you're not careful enough you might end up with mag with close to empty, trying to fight a few enemies at once. You'd be f***ed by then.

Luckily they retained that feature from KF.

Gonna get RO2 on sale then.

The time it takes to regen from near-death is pretty long compared to other games like CoD, etc. As I said, it is a tactical disadvantage to just sit around and heal while the enemy can move forward. Also, medpacks do help in firefights.

What is all this hate for the regen rate? Are you mad because you camp far away and only get body shots and thus are unable to get kills because people regen to 100% before you land another hit?

The reason nobody calls for ammo on chat is because some support don't drop ammo and there was no in-game function in the beta to ask for or offer heals/ammo/repair/pickup like in other BF games.


Didn't you know we're all ninjas? We can refill our magazines in the blink of an eye!

I would like this, but I don't think a lot of people would welcome it.

Its gonna be a pain at least at the beginning.

KF had this and it actually changed quite a bit of gameplay as you need to consider when to reload. Do you want to waste your magazine, or just stick to whatever you have?

In This Thread : People who played Battlefield for long time keep demanding the game to be more real and complain if it doesn't, while games like Arma series and Operation Flashpoint floating around in front of them.

Incomprehensible.

This post has been edited by Fatimus: Oct 16 2011, 09:31 PM

It's a mind trick that your brain keep telling you love "old games is better".

ITT: People thinking game design is an art form rather than a science.

Science is about right and wrong. Call Of Duty is an art.

Bobby Kotick.


OT: Old games are only superior on the sense that they were the innovators of their time. Now the market is so saturated that it becomes very hard to discern yourself away from the mass of games being released, hence why most games become unmemorable. Also, cash cow.

Old games has also been cash cows very often. Might and Magic series for example, King's Quest, Tomb Raider, Ultima. These games often varied very little from each installment (Perhaps a little bit less with the Ultima series.) It's just isn't as lucrative a business as it is now so that it isn't as obvious that developers are trying to cash in on a franchise.

Anyways, it's usually just because all the old games you even see nowadays, like on GOG.com, are going to be the best games of the previous generations. Otherwise they wouldn't even be able to survive such a long time in existence.

Another reason why games nowadays are more geared towards the mainstream also has something to do with commodification of gaming capable platforms, if you didn't realize, it's no longer a market where 10k sales is a milestone. We're reaching into millions of sales as a general milestone for an AAA title nowadays, it's achievable only because gaming is slowly becoming a commodity.

I'm sure Zeratos would know a lot more about commodification than I do though. @_@

Lulz.

To be honest nostalgia has more to do with old games being better rather than any actual improvement in quality.

NFS 1 - 3 are better than current NFS. Gameplay is much more fun, soundtrack fit the mood well; i prefer those instrumental BGM rather than some rock, techno, pop music that used widely in the series today. And the graphic still looks great with Glide enabled on modern PC.

OT: thanks to GoG, now i can fully immersed myself with 3Dfx on Planet of Death (1997), back then it seems like nobody couldn't afford decent Voodoo graphic card, hence stucked with inferior directx5 - 7 direct3D.

This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Oct 17 2011, 05:57 AM

Why older games more superior?

1) Games in the old days(Atari, NES, SNES, PS1 age) sells their gameplay if gameplay sux, you're doom, in the present you got good graphic you'll sell, example: Crysis 2, CoD series everything after CoD4 is trash, Duke Nukem series lolz, CnC series, crappy gameplay but good graphic.

2) They're actually getting easier nowadays, most old games are more challenging than new ones, exmple: Crysis series, Crysis 2 is much easier than Crysis 1, Wolfenstein series also getting easier, the Wolfenstein 3D is damn hard to complete lolz.

3) older games focus on offline play, newer games focus on online play(cuz dev make more cash this way), that make newer offline games getting crappier.

4) newer games is very complex compare to old one, it is hard to make good game out of it.

This post has been edited by Kizarh: Oct 17 2011, 06:43 AM

I don't play racing games, so yeah, I'll give you that one.

FPS don't age well though. Well, they do, but they cater for hardcore fans. (I still play DooM occasionally. Romping through E1M1 never gets old.) Shooting sprites may be fun, but I much prefer actual 3D shooters.

Probably someone said this earlier (TL:DR) but im gonna say, originality is what makes old game the best.

Also at the time we have nothing to put as a benchmark, so our options are always open to new games and with that we find newer and fresher gameplay of different games with different genres.

Now it seems we do have a benchmark, and when the game does not deliver the same trill as what their predecessor, we tend to be disappointed.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Teritory probably the Best FPS multiplayer ever, not as realistic as modern FPS but the gameplay is much better, BF3's rush mode is based on that game and lots of BF3's component(medic able to revive, support supply bullet which in RTCW:ET is field ops) come from that game, the disappointing down side of RTCW:ET is only 6 maps lolz

I disagree, NFS 1 to 3 are excellent NFS but i think High Stakes, Most Wanted, Shift 2 Unleashed and NFS World are much better than the first 3.

Most Wanted has the best Hollywood styled pursuits that isnt artificially made difficult. A reasonable single player that isnt too short or a snore fest. Also, very moddable now.

High Stakes is the most moddable NFS out there, with tonnes of mods out there, plus all the great content from Hot Pursuit.

Shift 2 Unleashed has the best tracks selection like Mount Panaroma to Circuit de le Spa, coupled with a great car list.

NFS World is a "free to play" online game scum, but it actually manage to improve something that never really ever exist in any NFS, a functional and decent multiplayer. Not to forget that it has one of the best livery editor in NFS but its a bit lacking on content.

No doubt the old ones are good, as i loved the original Hot Pursuit than any after that but the some of newer ones have definitely exceeded the first few NFS.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 17 2011, 10:27 AM

Mechwarrior all the series..
The first game i played on a pc and seriously no front mission evolve or transformer game could ever replace those game..Timberwolf FTW!!!

This post has been edited by qhalidx: Oct 17 2011, 02:32 PM

Mechwarrior really need a reboot.

Front Mission is shit, and Transformers feels like, erm, Transformers that are light and agile.

It is important to 1st strike what's the definition of old. A 2 year old game can be easily be called as old as well .
I think games that are at least 5 years are old. Anything more would be retro.

However, this does not mean that older games are anything but better than their new cousins. We have seen game mechanics being improved overtime eg Civilization series. Whether is it good or bad, it is rather subjective to the reviewer's experience, expectations as well as taste. In my opinion, I think past games gives more freedom to gamers in the past compare to the new games we have.

Hands up who thinks Sim tower is funtastic!

This post has been edited by nipaa1412: Oct 17 2011, 03:36 PM

So much gameplay in less than 1.5mb.

I still need to work my way to 5-star! I somehow always floundered by the time I reach 3-4 stars.

I missed both Mechwarrior and Heavy Gears.

managing lift is such a sin

I haven't played that, but I want a new Sim Golf!

I had the most EVIL golf courses hehehehehe

Microsoft already plan a new Mechwarrior. Its a simulation + RTS

Where? It has Microsoft?

No thanks then. I wont touch GFWL.

Then again some people disagree with this when they consider Civ V as dumbed down version of Civ series along with mass amount of DLCs. I can see improvement made in V but there are some regression too when some previous features are taken out. Felt like 1 step forward 2 steps back. Apply to some other series too but maybe it's just me being Angry Internet Man. Good thing some of the concerns can rectified by modding. Yay for moddability!

Some games nowadays are too linear perhaps so it restrict the emergent gameplay which typical gamers really like. Just look at the list of greatest games (Deus Ex,GTA etc) that give us freedom and the ability to play how we like. Though I must say there are some linear game that are good but then again games like Half-Life and Metro series still give some freedom.

its a pity even microsoft the original producer won't reboot the series not even digital copy on sale on gog..but i still keep ahem copy for old time sakes...

mechwarrior became a freeware.

by the way, Fasa studios has merge to a bigger team under microsoft game studio.

During the good ole' days, i remember Ubisoft released free DLC for POD. The game originally came with 8 cars and 16 tracks from the OEM version, but later you can updated it to version 2.0 / Gold which added another 15 vehicles and 19 tracks. And also Ubisoft released free vehicles and tracks at their website, so total of official tracks for the game was 35 and 44 for vehicles. That was huge number for a racing game even in today standard. That was still not included others unofficial and fan made car and track. All of 'em for free.

This game for me deserve a HD remake but knowing how video game industry work this day, i expect there will be very limited amount of vehicles and tracks for retail product and those additional stuff / DLC will be released in several package with each one cost at least $10... and also with all those DRM.

This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Oct 18 2011, 05:45 AM

Eh, somebody else who actually remembered THAT game. I thought I was the only one who played it. (It came free with my PC.)

You have Intel MMX? How much does it cost back in those day? It is like I7 in 1996 - 1997. I can't afford it at that time, still stuck with 486 until 2000 finally changed to K6-2, but at that time POD was old news, everybody turned to Counter Strike including me.

Rm 7k+. A pretty penny indeed.

I still have it. And it still runs. (the PC I meant. The game is lost somewhere.)

RM7k? that was serious amount of money, never thought it was that expensive. Is it came with 3Dfx Voodoo graphic? I heard voodoo was rather expensive but no other can challenge it at that time. My cousin MMX came with Matrox Mystique 2MB, i doubt that costed same as yours. And why you still keep it? For old game?

Mech Warrior 4 and Mech Commander 2 are free to download now.

er becoz of storyline?

That time? Nah, it came with 2MB S3 Virge. It was a Packard-Bell, brand inflation probably contributed to the price.

I keep it because it seemed like a waste to throw it away.

This is the best example of modern mechanics put into old games that work very well!

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/17...-is-remarkable/

That game was just an over-glorified tech demo for 3D cards

I remember cos was desperately searching for anything to flex my voodoo1 and POD was one of them. Sad thing is, Wipeout looked better then

I think that's about right. I remember paying around 4k for my P166MMX with 32MB RAM, 2.5GB HDD, S3 3D Virge graphics and SoundBlaster AWE64.

The only thing I'm still keeping from that setup is the AWE64, which was last used in a PII IBM retrogaming box until the PSU blew up and killed the mobo with it last month. Currently it's resting until i can find the mobo i want to use for building another retrogaming rig.

Yes, it was like tech demo for new MMX processor and 3Dfx card. Simple gameplay with simple plot. But luckily the gameplay itself was good, pure racing game because at that time demolition-style racing game such as Megarace, Wipeout, Dethkarz, Twisted Metal were on the rise. I still play that game today, and yes it has physics. You can hit barrel, penguin etc. and your car won't stuck. Downhill and uphill affect the speed of the car and collision too. You can rammed your opponent from side and they will fly outside of the track if the vehicle is lightweight such as motorcycle. Pretty good technology for 1997 game.

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Added on October 24, 2011, 1:26 amI think at that time MMX price was on par with today I7, hence the price. Talk about retrogaming why don't you use Dosbox or Windows compatibility mode instead? I don't know much about Dosbox but i read somewhere it is easier to configure older game with Dosbox rather than windows version, that's why site that sell old games like GOG always prefer Dos over Windows version.

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Added on October 25, 2011, 4:51 am

Good ole' point and click adventure game. Sadly this genre is dying today.

This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Oct 25 2011, 04:51 AM

this my most favorite early childhood game ever...i remember playing them 4 many hours during the school holidays...those days games were so tough until u want 2 break the keys in 2 without video guide...now with utube,,,u dont need 2 get stuck in levels 4 very long time dy n also u dont need book guides anymore





although now i dont like anymore puzzle games but this 2 will always b my top favorite of nostalgia

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Nov 4 2011, 10:22 PM

I remembered playing Xenon without a soundcard.

Even the newer updates of top-down shooters are pretty old, like Tyrian and Raptor.

because nowadays game are consolized,,,,nuff say..

Nope last month we got:

Gemini Rue
The Book of Unwritten Tales
The Dream Machine Chapter 3

And upcoming games like Botanicula (from creators of Samorost and Machinarium)

Well, old games don't need constant or any initial online connection that requires crapload of authentication stuffs and useless clients.

New games = (all of below)
1: Extremely dramatic storyline
2: Too much Hollywood actions
3: Too much 1990s era kids whining about cheaters while they suck
4: Too much hype
5: Too much hype
6: Over-hyped
7: Under performing (unable to deliver promise, read #4~6)

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Seriously, I'm collecting or hunting a large list of old games now, esp the retail versions. Plus, I'm abit too old for the new games nowadays.

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Retail version can run on modern PC? Or you just want to collect them for collection purpose?
If you don't mind DD with no DRM, then this place is for you to start your hunting:
http://www.gog.com/
http://www.dotemu.com/en

All of the games there has been configured to run with modern PC, but still some of them need a little bit tweaking on your own; especially with games emulated by dosBox. And also there's some games that can't run with Windows 7 (but very little). So if you want to make any purchase, make sure you check the system requirements and if you can spare little time, do check out the specific thread for the game that interest you at their forum so you can take note of what possible problem that you might encounter. This is the disadvantage of old game, sometime it doesn't run properly on modern system but i can tolerate that

yeah, goes to GOG time to time to check out some collections, unfortunately I have everything I wanna buy from them lol.
Collection and for the sake of the good old gaming experience, pop out boxes > install game > play
And surprisingly yes, almost 95% of my old games prior to 2000 works without error despite some having some old 640x480 or lower res.
Not much of a problem with fixes by made by gaming communities.

Most new games gives me headache, before gameplay, during gameplay and after gameplay.

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I understand that, newer games nowadays tend to be so buggy during the initial release. Most recent example is Sword of the Stars 2, turn out they're forced to lied to their customer since they don't have enough fund. So, what their customers got right now are beta release of the game. Good thing is the developer promised to deliver small patch frequently, and the game is expected to be fully functioned on next year January or something. But the fact remain that they lied to their customer.

By the way, don't you think your rig is too overpowered to run old games?

old games used to be creative and not so much about money anyways.
In today's world it's all about budget and time, that's why there's so much crappy games today.
because of money, developer's don't have the time to polish and make good games. ( excludes big players such as blizzard )
MDK and dungeon keeper will always be on top of my old games list, they were perfectly done and was ground breaking at that time.
mdk took like 4-7 years ? to develop with just 2 guys workin on it, developer + music composer.

Available in Good Old Games.

I am waiting for the Old EA Games to go on sale.

This is funny video, but i sense some kind of elitism..

hahahahaha nice one there really games now 2 generic crap dy

True about that, well we can't have the "past" in the future anymore. Back then DLC was actually "Add On Pack", no extra costs. Nowadays DLC instantly means the partial 10~30% of the supposed full version they just trimmed out for future extra sales. Plus with such crowded video game industry, everyone is rushing their games out of the workshop. Also, casual is the 99% majority these days,so forget about seeing much innovative games that stresses all gameplay mechanics, graphics, interfaces, controls, and playability at once.

Which is why, I've been skipping lots of big or medium titles, never even bothered on buying and playing them, just watch the gameplay videos and trailers and considered done playing lol.

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I do the same. Watching some playthrough and that's it. The sequels for AAA title also coming out so soon, until the point that you feel like playing the same thing only with different landscape and level design. Good thing is indie game today are much more innovative and interesting than these AAA titles. But the trend of milking money with all these DLC still exist even on the indies; which is slightly disappoint me.
The only FPS that i'm anticipating right now are Arma 3 and Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded, hopefully they will not be a disappointment.

wah that 3dfx MMX game, one of my favs from the 90s i still play it occasionally today on win 10 with nGlide wrapper and upscaled resolution. the gog version damn buggy and not a good release.

i doubt Ubisoft would remaster a 20 year old game, even if they have the source =/ but it's cool that others like Rollcage have new remakes inspired by them like GRIP. or racing ghosts uploaded on the internet in Distance.

i guess we all have the MMX OEM bundle version. i wonder if anyone would've bought the original version with big box. if so i would love to buy it from you if you still can find it lol.



sorry for the ancient necro lol.

This post has been edited by svfn: Oct 7 2017, 10:54 AM

as the fanatic racing kakis now this my all time favorite classics



of course if my parents were 2 buy me PS which they never at all this would be my all time favorite



then when I was in university the FORZA brand was born and I knew I can afford the xbox with monthly sponsored allowance but sadly unable 2 afford a freaking TV set this also will be my all time favorite which finally is on PC after the 7th iteration



last but not least my first game on my first PC back in 1998 right after UPSR



after playing a mixture of many genres I still find racing is in my blood because I was born 2 race FICTIONALLY