No, old games arent any superior than new games. There are always good and bad games in each generation.

I rather have my destructive environment and advanced physics than pixelated graphics and turn based gameplay.

Nothing's wrong with health regeneration and lack of recoil. Not every game has to be military shooter.

Health Regeneration isnt all bad, especially these few years, as they are trying to shake it up a bit, like how Transformers War for Cybertron done to it, where the health bars have different levels or how Battlefield have been doing to it with delayed regeneration so that you cant just duck and hope you heal in seconds to get back to the fight.

Recoil, i dont see any problems if games like Unreal Tournament's gun doesnt have any recoil.

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Added on October 15, 2011, 10:45 am+1

Each cycle has the best and the worse games. Some features are retained while some are lost. At the same time, some are completely changed.

Some of my favourite games are newer games from past few years, while, there are still games from the early 2000 or even 90s that i still miss them till now. Here hoping for a remake for Freelancer/Nexus.

As long as its fun, i dont really care.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 15 2011, 10:51 AM

If you are talking about CoD's system, then, thats cancer, as it barely have any penalty if you get injured. It heals back to full HP very quickly.

Battlefield 3's one is pretty decent, as the delay of the regeneration is much longer than even BC2 and even with med kits, its fairly slow, comparing to other games. It definitely not a fail to me, in this case, as its incredibly annoying to run around with 15% left in older games without any regeneration at all. Battlefield 3 actually did pretty well in regenerative health.

I play Medic half the time, and i never have issue of people ignoring the med kits i put out.

You die pretty much instantly if you just charge into the battle. That alone balance up with the regenerative system. Not to forget that any shot from an anti tank, tanks or chopters, you are dead.

Bipod is meant to reduce recoil, and you have to compensate that 2 seconds setup time and the limited arc of firing without setting it up again. It is meant to be like that.

Battlefield 3 do not have unlimited ammo, and i did run out of ammo a few times in the Beta.

Some people seriously need to adapt to newer games, and not get stuck in late 90s. A lot of newer games like Just Cause 2, Transformers, Battlefield 3, have been using staged health regeneration, where i find it to be a sweet spot between the traditional health packs and regenerative. The traditional health system is not perfect to begin with, as terrible level design would make the game annoyingly difficult or you dont know where to find the med kits.

BF3 is not a military simulation with 100% accurate physics. Besides, there is no 100% realistic game out there,not even those so-called sim are not 100% accurate, as it is impossible to model what actually happen in real life into a game as there are so many factors to consider. If a software manage to model everything correct, then, that not a game. Thats a computer analysis software.

If you want realistic games, go play ARMA then. I am not a soldier, so i have no comment on how steady can they actually hold the weapons. As far as i know, i remember seeing real life soldiers complaining that the weapon sway in BF3 is excessive on Battlelog, as they can hold the weapon pretty steady in real life combat. Not sure how valid are those comments, but do i care? No, as long as the game is fun, i dont mind little flaws in the game.

I have been playing more than 15 hours in the Beta, i find that, medic isnt useless at all. I still need a medic when i am hunting for tanks in Caspian Borders. You are just being picky with health system because you sound like you just hide behind the bush all day and your blatant hate on all regenerative health systems. I find the bullet damage is so high to the point that the regenerative system doesnt really help in some cases, if only you are fighting on the front line. Probably because you like to hide behind the bush, while i prefer to stay upfront. I dont play as snipers, as its just pointless to camp there for the whole match not contributing to the team. I want to contribute to the team, not sitting there and waste other people's effort in trying to win the game.

If you want to nitpick all day, i have a lot of complains on the destruction system, on how unrealistic is it because concrete does not behave like how the game portray. Do i care about that? No, because it's just a game and its not suppose to be a carbon copy of real life.

The spot function isnt working properly in the Beta. The full version should be more on line of sight than the old system.

I dont know whats your hate on today's games like BF3, maybe you should just go back to 1942 and forget about all the modern games. No doubt BF3 is a overhyped game, but at the end, its still a pretty good sequel to BF2 for me despite there are quite a lot of flaws.

I want to move on and see how the games i like are evolving, not play the same shit that i have played to death 10 years ago. Sure there are failures like Sup Com 2 to Sup Com 1, but there also success like Company of Heroes from Dawn of War.

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Added on October 16, 2011, 12:20 amIts good to rack up the points, though.

Seriously, sometimes, it is important to just dump the med kit and let them heal in a fight. It actually able to keep them up longer.

I rather they give more points to encourage people to dump health kits more often than the other way round. The points you can get some times is just ridiculous.

Thank gawd they sort of fix it in BF3, as the points you get isnt that much.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 16 2011, 12:25 AM

I would just recommend you to play BF1942 or BF2 then since you hate so many things about BF3. I play medic up front, and i rarely have enough time or even bothered to camp in the bush to regen my health. Suppression fire alone have discourage me to stay in the same spot and encourage me to flank more because it blurs my screen so much. Are you really flanking or you are just sitting in the bush with your long sniper rifle?

Recon class is rubbish, if you are camping at somewhere. BF3 is not CoD, where siting there will win you the game. I have no doubt on the way you post have enforced that you are just a recon who loves to camp.

Besides, the points system has changed in the final game. Capturing one flag in Conquest gives you 250 points, not 100 points in beta. Is that enough to encourage team play?

The delay is already slow enough and i'll take it any day than the traditional system. Half a mag is more than enough to kill you, let alone with those tank shells or chopter rockets, having traditional health system or regenerative system doesnt really make any different because you die almost instantly, unless, again, you are a camper that hide behind the rock.

The reason why support isnt dropping much ammo because they themselves never really run out of ammo and they do now know that people have run out of ammo. I play a fair bit of support and i always forget to drop ammo because i have more than 200 rounds, at least at the beginning.

The button, Q to call for ammo and health is not working. It should be in the final game.

I am guessing you were worrying more on the regenerative health than all the game breaking bugs and missing features in the Beta.

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Added on October 16, 2011, 6:18 pmThats something i want too.

Does Red Orchestra 2 have this feature? I remember Killing Floor has this.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 16 2011, 06:18 PM

Luckily they retained that feature from KF.

Gonna get RO2 on sale then.

Its gonna be a pain at least at the beginning.

KF had this and it actually changed quite a bit of gameplay as you need to consider when to reload. Do you want to waste your magazine, or just stick to whatever you have?

I disagree, NFS 1 to 3 are excellent NFS but i think High Stakes, Most Wanted, Shift 2 Unleashed and NFS World are much better than the first 3.

Most Wanted has the best Hollywood styled pursuits that isnt artificially made difficult. A reasonable single player that isnt too short or a snore fest. Also, very moddable now.

High Stakes is the most moddable NFS out there, with tonnes of mods out there, plus all the great content from Hot Pursuit.

Shift 2 Unleashed has the best tracks selection like Mount Panaroma to Circuit de le Spa, coupled with a great car list.

NFS World is a "free to play" online game scum, but it actually manage to improve something that never really ever exist in any NFS, a functional and decent multiplayer. Not to forget that it has one of the best livery editor in NFS but its a bit lacking on content.

No doubt the old ones are good, as i loved the original Hot Pursuit than any after that but the some of newer ones have definitely exceeded the first few NFS.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 17 2011, 10:27 AM

Mechwarrior really need a reboot.

Front Mission is shit, and Transformers feels like, erm, Transformers that are light and agile.

Where? It has Microsoft?

No thanks then. I wont touch GFWL.

Mech Warrior 4 and Mech Commander 2 are free to download now.