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any idea where can watch live? sopcast don have eng link

http://live.tonton.com.my/euro2012/video.asp?c=2003337

No wonder he's so knowledgeable. He's Viv Anderson, former professional who played at top level.

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Added on June 18, 2012, 4:17 amThat's why you need at least one ball playing CB to build attack from the back. Dutch can't even get from their own half, because their CBs are not technically good with the ball. Always have to resort to Sketelenburg to hoof it upfront. But can't really blame the coach. Dutch league haven't produced a top class ball playing CB in ages since the day Philip Cocu and De Boer brothers retired.

This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Jun 18 2012, 04:17 AM

yup. total football need ball playing CB but the CBs that the Dutch team have now are all robust type of CB. it's useless. well, even with my FM knowledge, i can't name any Dutch CB other than those in the team.

next maybe dutch should try bruma and van aanholt..a CB and flying fullback...the only young dutch defender that i m familiar with..

Was the Dutch lacking a ball playing CB?

Sorry to say the key 'position' was filled by a holding midfielder who contribute neither to offense or to defense productively.

The passenger is - City's Nigel de Jong. Yes he takes the ball from the defense and PLAYS the ball or pass usually sideways. Most of the time he doesn't create any goal scoring opportunities. But his passing & completion stats are
impressive.
What about defense? Of course he doesn't have the height to challenge or head the ball away from danger. What about defending in front of the box? Not impressive and sometimes shocking IMO.

To wit Nigel 'shying away' from PJP split pass to R7 to score. If you watch again you will see his teammate gave him a telling off. NDJ was playing like a CB then not covering anybody.

VDV should have started instead of NDJ in all the matches.

That was the mistake Marwijk made in not having an alternate midifleder who can contribute to goals given that Robben, RVP, Sneijder have been firing mostly blanks.

"Watched Meireles being 'winded' by NDJ left hand. That's a blow not RM faking it."

Telling it like it is. An honest opinion.

Surprised that Netherlands didn't press for the ball, just like in the previous matches. Kuyt can be useful instead of van Persie.

The Dutch system is outmoded playing with a holding midfielder which was exposed by being out flanked in the form of Nani & R7.

NDJ is not the type of midfielder who (when pressed up high to join the Dutch attack) has the ability to hold the ball (i.e. ball control), dribbling or have the sublime skills (with splitting passes etc.) to create goal opportunities for his teammates.

Today he was found wanting especially when the Dutch lost the ball to allow the Portuguese to counterattack productively. NDJ does not have the PACE!

The Dutch needed to have an offensive team and should have VDV (instead of NDJ) in the lineup from the get go.

That was Marjiwk fatal flaw.

This post has been edited by CityBluePrint: Jun 18 2012, 05:42 AM

hmm can say so ... since the captain already a DM ...

so VDV should have started even against the danes ... why need another DM ...

btw, only last match the coach drop heitinga ... he has a poor euro cup ...

Dutch playing with two same CM all the time. I'm ok with de jong, but van bommel? No other CM? I know he's a great leader...but performance wise hmm...

The two full backs(Van der wiel and Jetro Willems) offensively they are quite good, but defensively i feel they are not good enough. should have fielded khalid boularouz maybe?

Dutch is missing the old robben(bombarding the left flank). His current play style very predictable(right flank trying to cut into middle and shoot). With strikers like RVP and huntelaar, would have been great if he played on the left and make crosses(I know at bayern he's been playing right wing all the time).

Wesley Sneijder seems to lost his touch too. He's trying to produce his magic passes but unfortunately, they didnt go well.

This post has been edited by mrkenn: Jun 19 2012, 10:36 PM

I tot Sneijder performed quite good.... providing chances after chances to teammates only to have them wasted by them

dutch want to play all star..they should keep rvp as lone striker..and deploy another winger there..let the team be functional rather than all big name..

So, all quarter-finalist was confirm

CZE vs POR

GER vs GRE

ESP vs FRA

ENG vs ITA

My prediction for Semi-finalists :
POR
GER
ESP
ENG

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Added on June 20, 2012, 2:24 pmMe too.
But the Dutch team was all hype before the tournament start but alas, it's a flop.
Anyway, they are in the Group of Death, right, with Germany and Portugal.

This post has been edited by pingpang: Jun 20 2012, 02:24 PM

didnt expect ENG to survive the group and lead the table

now with rooney, aish ..abis la italy ..demn ..hopefuly ITA will go thru

ENG 1 - 1 ITA
>> ITA won penalty

it was another story for Dutch for the previous Euro?

slaying France (4-1) and Italy (3-0)in ruthless style only to be knocked out by Russia if not mistaken

Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece semifinalists.

Haha!